What would your anti-crime plan be?

[BlackCryptoKnight]

If you had the responsibility of solving the nations crime problem, how would you do it?

[Master E]

Build more job oppertunities

[virus_ncu]

i would drop a very big bomb in Spanishtown and downtown.

[AngelsKiss]

i would drop a very big bomb in Spanishtown and downtown.
How very productive.

[AngelsKiss]

Law Enforcement

This is the first place I would start. They need training and the tools to do the job. Most importantly is try to eliminate corruption by:

A) Every member of the police force would have to take a lie detector test at least once per year. The test will be administered by expats so that we have less chance for corruption.

B) I would also have ppl out there on the road doing check on the police force only they won't know who it is. They will be able to report in anonymously.

C) In conjunction with the other Caribbean Islands, set up a joint Witness Protestion Program. The local administration team would again be expats.


National Education Progam

Out in place several national education program targetting different areas of the legal system such as

Technology

Use of technology all over the island, for example cameras. Urging all business ppl and residents who can afford to install cameras to do so and giving htem the necessary tax break.

Judicial System

Prisoners won't just sit in prisons but they will have to earn their keep. Chain them and make them fix the roads, clean up the streets, etc.

Just a few of the things I would do.

[Manu]

LOL...AK....you thinking of politics? I guarantee you atleast one vote!:icon_mrgr

[Leina]

LOL...AK....you thinking of politics? I guarantee you atleast one vote!:icon_mrgr

nah mine wud be shoot now ask later, it boun fi scare some a di "bad man" dem

[AngelsKiss]

nah mine wud be shoot now ask later, it boun fi scare some a di "bad man" dem
LMBO...you are one crazy woman:)

Thank goodness you are not serious, at least I don't think you are.

LOL...AK....you thinking of politics? I guarantee you atleast one vote!

I thought about it when I was in Jamaica but my family did not like the idea especially since they know how I am:)

Back on topic:

Here are some more stuff I would do:

1) Public flogging and disgrace. For example those criminals I would put to work on the roads would also wear a sign indicating their crime. So if they are a rapist it would say beware I am a rapist. Sounds cruel but until ppl realise that they can't just do as they please then tough at least it's better than electrocution.

2) Enforcing all those little laws that gets ignored, this is one way the govt could make some money.

a) Truancy
b) Litter bugs
c) Incorrect use of the roads (speeding, running the stop lights, etc

3) Fight Govt corruption...sorry but that's one thing that would not be tolerated.

[nuhsenutten]

to help solve the crime problem i'd do two things

1. get mr. reneto adams back on duty

2. enforce capital punishment

that would be bound to get rid of some of the wrong doers in our society

[Leina]

to help solve the crime problem i'd do two things

1. get mr. reneto adams back on duty

2. enforce capital punishment

that would be bound to get rid of some of the wrong doers in our society

true dat with my plan crime bound fi cut down

[Chris]

@AK: I like your approaches. Some of them sound adopted from the Middle East, but it would work here. AK for Minister of National Security!!

[AngelsKiss]

@AK: I like your approaches. Some of them sound adopted from the Middle East, but it would work here. AK for Minister of National Security!!
Middle East Chris? Good grief man they are not that bad. LOL...they would just shoot them in the Middle East, end of story :D

Thanks anyway :)

Just so you know, twice I wrote the Prime Minister and the Minister of National Security with suggestions on curtailing crime :(

I really wish I could do something though, what I don't know. I suppose I could continue to bombard them with letters. If the govt were to ask me to come home to head up National Security I would be there in a heart beat, but they would have to give me carte blanche and not want to over ride me when they feel a mind (eg...when their friends get in trouble).

[Master E]

1. get mr. reneto adams back on duty
pluse traing all police officers Military style because everytime war starts they have to call in the army (that would be like back up)

2.as AngelsKiss said This is the first place I would start. They need training and the tools to do the job. Most importantly is try to eliminate corruption by:

A) Every member of the police force would have to take a lie detector test at least once per year. The test will be administered by expats so that we have less chance for corruption.

B) I would also have ppl out there on the road doing check on the police force only they won't know who it is. They will be able to report in anonymously.

C) In conjunction with the other Caribbean Islands, set up a joint Witness Protestion Program. The local administration team would again be expats.
National Education Progam

Out in place several national education program targetting different areas of the legal system such as

Technology
Use of technology all over the island, for example cameras. Urging all business ppl and residents who can afford to install cameras to do so and giving htem the necessary tax break.

Judicial System

Prisoners won't just sit in prisons but they will have to earn their keep. Chain them and make them fix the roads, clean up the streets, etc.

Just a few of the things I would do.


and 1) Public flogging and disgrace. For example those criminals I would put to work on the roads would also wear a sign indicating their crime. So if they are a rapist it would say beware I am a rapist. Sounds cruel but until ppl realise that they can't just do as they please then tough at least it's better than electrocution.

2) Enforcing all those little laws that gets ignored, this is one way the govt could make some money.

a) Truancy
b) Litter bugs
c) Incorrect use of the roads (speeding, running the stop lights, etc


3) Fight Govt corruption...sorry but that's one thing that would not be tolerated.3.Also implimenting the dreded Death penaulty
http://www.kopes.com/novelties/skull.jpg
(that shold free up the space in the prison's)
and consider these as a last resort
shoot now ask later, it boun fi scare some a di "bad man" demi would drop a very big bomb in Spanishtown and downtown. Need We say more :eusa_thin

[Manu]

Well...for one....those are good idea from the start. The way things are now, those solutions would do little.

I say the best thing we could ever do is pool our resources even more to stem the drug trafficking trade. They will get desperate and slip up. No sense going after the henchmen. They need senior officers posted at the wharves. They are a dime a dozen. Stop the source of it. J'cans for Justice would come down on you about public flogging and such. Just a thought. How about undercover policing?

[BlackCryptoKnight]

I'd have to start with fixing up the police force.

I'd get rid of the dirty cops. Probably recreate the command and control structure so that people I trust, and who have integrity, are running things. There would have to be "untouchables" running things in the force.

The police stations need to be decent so that morale of the force can improve. They work under terrible conditions in many cases. Give them the equipment and tools they need (guns, ammo, vests, vehicles) so that they are on par with and even better equipped than the criminals. Beef up their training so that they can use more "intellegence" in their "intellegence" gathering and operations. They need to be doing more things like surveillance, as well as better crime scene management and forensics.

I'd also put heavy focus on the financial assets of the criminals. Get 'em like how Al Capone got got. Clamp down on the income tax evasion. If a man has $18 million in a vault in a garrison, where him get that from? If it's from legitimate business, did the govt. get their GCT and other tax? Hit 'em in the pocket - big man and small crook.

Once the cops are better able to deal with the current criminal threat, attention needs to be turned to the long term strategic goal of preventing the creation of future criminals. This is where the social and economic development comes in.

The Garrisons need to be broken up. Finance the movement of people in garrison areas to other areas so they are dispersed and the concentration of bad areas is diminished. I've heard that this strategy has been sucessfully used in Canada (AK confirm this is you can plz).

Their needs to be a serious public education campaign to instill better civic pride and responsibility in the people. That needs to counter the negative messages in the popular music etc. which tell people that "informer fi dead" etc. People need to feel more comfortable with actively helping to stop crime.

The Church can come in here. There role is to be the moral and spiritual guide for the nation. They would need to intensify their efforts at getting people into the churches and living according to higher moral standards.

Also, I'd encourage the private sector to setup funds to support community development and education initiatives for the youth. I believe that if people and businesses are serious about making Jamaica a better place, then they should put their money where their mouths are.

[Cocoa]

>enforce capital punishment
>no partiality to who dies first
>swipe out PJ and bring it a woman for PM.
> make some amendments as to governing the possession of firearms
>bring in the men from prison to fight in the JDF and Police force
....when I think of more I'll come back....

[AngelsKiss]

bring in the men from prison to fight in the JDF and Police force

This is not fighting crime, you are legalising it.

[Cocoa]

This is not fighting crime, you are legalising it.Oh they would be since killing is their motto. :D

[AngelsKiss]

Oh they would be since killing is their motto. :D
Killing innocent ppl? You think because you take them from prison and place them in the Army or the police force they are suddenly going to be good?

[Cocoa]

Killing innocent ppl? You think because you take them from prison and place them in the Army or the police force they are suddenly going to be good?NO...but it was just a thought since they know how to do what they do best, kill all the others that do wrong. :eusa_whis

jus a thought Angel ;) I'm not Condelezza Rice AS YET. ;)

[AngelsKiss]

NO...but it was just a thought since they know how to do what they do best, kill all the others that do wrong. :eusa_whis

jus a thought Angel ;) I'm not Condelezza Rice AS YET. ;)

Yeah well the truth is I doubt anyone would have to be Condolezza Rice to know that taking prisoners and placing them in the Army or the Police Force is not a good idea.

[Cocoa]

Yeah well the truth is I doubt anyone would have to be Condolezza Rice to know that taking prisoners and placing them in the Army or the Police Force is not a good idea. :eusa_sile ok...

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[chany86]

i agree with u AK with chaining the prisonners and setting them to work. However, with misappropraited funds i dont think we can afford some of the solutions. <sighs>

i'm not sure i'd want the death penalty back (did some one say that? donmt rem), cuz i'm pretty sure, just like most things in this country, the judicial system may just be messed up, and we may be condemning the wrong man/woman to death.

Originally Posted by virus_ncu
i would drop a very big bomb in Spanishtown and downtown.

DWL!!! thas mighty funny...i dont think it'll work though ( i think u left out some key communities) thas a good laugh though.
...i live pretty near to Spanish town though... :icon_eek:

[nuhsenutten]

wha dem say di good have to suffer fi di bad ........dats y all a we de ya a sufe rnow

[dtgo]

wha dem say di good have to suffer fi di bad ........dats y all a we de ya a sufe rnow


my youth mi and u a fren :D

[tiffany]

alot of force..a major revolution..the people would haffi rise up and tek a stance against the currupt politicians. and stop taking bribes from them when they want the votes.Politicians are the ones who are giving the youths the guns ..they are the babylon.vote dem out of office demand justice, expose the injustce. as black people we owe it to ourselves, to have some sort of peace. too many people are fighting agist us for us to be fighting with each other..look out for each other. :) More love

[jerry]

The first place we need to start from is our govt, they are all corrupted and serve no purpose. we need a new and smart govt, that really cares for the ppl and not taking our money to satisfy their own needs.

Prison is just a waste of time for criminals. All they do is sleep, eat and fight. Is our tax $$$ feeding these bastards. so mek dem stay out a road and clean out gulleys and sewage.

i dont believe in the death penalty, thats just too easy for these killers, they kill someone and they just get electricuted or lethal injection. Why not just hang them or even better, torture them, a slow and painful death will make dem learn, probably stop future killers from developing.

Have someone as good as Adams in every parish of jamaica, not just kingston/st andrew alone.

[gucci man]

Simple. Resume Hanging and ignore the hell-of-human rights people

[Govern-me]

Law Enforcement

This is the first place I would start. They need training and the tools to do the job. Most importantly is try to eliminate corruption by:

A) Every member of the police force would have to take a lie detector test at least once per year. The test will be administered by expats so that we have less chance for corruption.

B) I would also have ppl out there on the road doing check on the police force only they won't know who it is. They will be able to report in anonymously.

C) In conjunction with the other Caribbean Islands, set up a joint Witness Protestion Program. The local administration team would again be expats.


National Education Progam

Out in place several national education program targetting different areas of the legal system such as

Technology

Use of technology all over the island, for example cameras. Urging all business ppl and residents who can afford to install cameras to do so and giving htem the necessary tax break.

Judicial System

Prisoners won't just sit in prisons but they will have to earn their keep. Chain them and make them fix the roads, clean up the streets, etc.

Just a few of the things I would do.

you talk like you heard about the problem in Jamaica :eusa_whis

the problem cannot be re-solve like ZAP!!! It's not something that will be fixed 5 years or 10 years from now . Jamaica is not a now thing , it's more like a future thing ,they need to make the same education available for those kids going to $15,000( my uncle there has two kids ,and this is what he pays ,and my other uncle pays samething for his kid) every 3months schools to all the kids (3years and older) ,- a stonger foundation , therefore the younger generation won't grow up to be in the same situation like some people today.


beating prisoners is just childish,making them do public work will lead to more death ,just picture it , two dozen men cleaning up 11 mile or whereever , they got like 4 cops watching them , and suddenly two cars pull up , Gun bussing , killing all the cops , and all those other prisoners escape.
they in prison already .

I will reply to the other **** you said soon .. gotta run

[acidblade]

MODS deal with this for me nuh :icon_twis

[virus_ncu]

I dont support the calling of people ediot round here.
And what ties apart from your uncle you have in jamaica, do you know personaly what it is like living in Jamaica? I totaly agree with AK and what she posted. Jamaica dont operate like where you are. Up here we have lions not cats, big brave black man that when them ready to rub and kill them dont have time to wear mask. And What the **** you mean bout " If she ever heear bout Ski mask". in Jamaica we dont ski, nor play hockey, so **** that argument.
All you seem to be stressing on is education, i am sure i am seeing well. she outline a step of things she would look into to change the situation, and i sure i can see education as one of them.
What you mean by beating pisoners is childish, yute whipping is punishment. wheather you old or young. whip them ***. 11miles 4 cops? LOL :dwl: a so mi know you coocoo. a that them do at your country? lol :dwl: yute jamaican people sensible and them will not in them right mind do such thing. they have work for prisoners it is all indoor work. them give them material to make things such as bags shoes and other little stuff.

[Govern-me]

I dont support the calling of people ediot round here.
And what ties apart from your uncle you have in jamaica, do you know personaly what it is like living in Jamaica? I totaly agree with AK and what she posted. Jamaica dont operate like where you are. Up here we have lions not cats, big brave black man that when them ready to rub and kill them dont have time to wear mask. And What the **** you mean bout " If she ever heear bout Ski mask". in Jamaica we dont ski, nor play hockey, so **** that argument.
All you seem to be stressing on is education, i am sure i am seeing well. she outline a step of things she would look into to change the situation, and i sure i can see education as one of them.
What you mean by beating pisoners is childish, yute whipping is punishment. wheather you old or young. whip them ***. 11miles 4 cops? LOL :dwl: a so mi know you coocoo. a that them do at your country? lol :dwl: yute jamaican people sensible and them will not in them right mind do such thing. they have work for prisoners it is all indoor work. them give them material to make things such as bags shoes and other little stuff.

If you agree with her totally , ****************************.
,and yes , I am Jamaican born 99% of my life i lived in Jamaica ,so i actually know more than you ..

when i said the thing about the ski-mask , i was only pointing out that cameras can't do anything .

Look at you ***** saying beating prisoners will be a good an-ti crime plan.
if you didn't know most prisoners do get beatings ,when they get locked up , i hope you not trying to say , people will be scared to commit crime ,because they gon get a beating if they do ... WTF ?? :rotflm:

someone said they sent 4 letters to PJ , i bet he didn't even see ONE ! hhaaha ..keep writing , PJ will never get the chance to read this RUBBISH

[AngelsKiss]

i am sure u could have voiced ur opinion differently other than calling ppl idiots and please to watch ur language
Thanks Virus & Acid:) You know what is funny, no where inmy post I said it would be easy or it is a quick fix and yet I am the one who is an idiot:)

It's also interested that he mentioned ski mask. How often do we hear of Jamaican criminals and gunmen wearing ski mask? If this is so then it's a recent thing.

I wouldn't even bother to mentioned that I have enough experience to talk since I lived all my life in (well except the last 4 years) Jamaica, among other things.

[AngelsKiss]

If you agree with her totally , i guess this would make you an idiot too yo .


Virus I guess most of us on here are all idiots with the exception of this 1 intelligent person :)

Such condescension for the rest of us :)

I do believe that people who incapabable of having a meaningful discussion usually end up attacking others for their comments instead of using reasoning to express themselves.

Maybe now some will understand when I say that we need to start teaching philosophy from an early age ;)

[virus_ncu]

Thats Tru :D

Then again the guy is new, he only have 4 post. No introduction or anything, By any chance does he have a personal pick for you? I notice hes in Canada also.

@ Govern-Yourself : Do you know What CaribYard Is? and whats it About? what is your purpose here?

[AngelsKiss]

Thats Tru :D

Then again the guy is new, he only have 4 post. No introduction or anything, By any chance does he have a personal pick for you? I notice hes in Canada also.


Interesting question Virus. I don't know this person at least not by this name. I also don't know anyone who is currently angry with me, so if he has a pick for me it would be nice if he would identify himself :)

[Govern-me]

Thanks Virus & Acid:) You know what is funny, no where inmy post I said it would be easy or it is a quick fix and yet I am the one who is an idiot:)

It's also interested that he mentioned ski mask. How often do we hear of Jamaican criminals and gunmen wearing ski mask? If this is so then it's a recent thing.

I wouldn't even bother to mentioned that I have enough experience to talk since I lived all my life in (well except the last 4 years) Jamaica, among other things.

NO one in Ja wears ski-mask , but if they should have cameras around , everyone would have one ..

[AngelsKiss]

NO one in Ja wears ski-mask , but if they should have cameras around , everyone would have one ..
With the appropriate techonology, even if they wear a ski mask a camera would still help.

In any event cameras are not only for harden criminals, they can be used for a variety of things, eg:

Trafic purposes - instead of posting policemen to check for speeding which is a waste of money and resources.

Education is good but by itself alone it won't help to resolve crime. We need enforced laws and the law enforcers who are not courrpted, which is a major problem in Jamaica.

BTW This idiot isn't just talking off the top of her head. If you look at other countries and see how they do things some of it can be utilized in Jamaica.

[Govern-me]

I didn't say i was 99% jamaican , i said i lived in Ja for most of my life .
why you getting so emotional ?? you a funny person ..hahaha
I'm not looking no man friend yute , so keep your nerdy self to yourself plz

I didn't come here with any attitude , i just couldn't believe no one said education , i guess no one really cared about this anyways .

explain , why my stay here won't be long ??

The lifestyle I live in Ja and Various people i know , even where i stay sometimes , makes me know more than you , you just wouldn't understand anyways ..so kool off now . :jestera:

[AngelsKiss]

I didn't come here with any attitude , i just couldn't believe no one said education , i guess no one really cared about this anyways .

If you read all the post you would realise that we all have been focusing on education in one way or the other:

BCP mentioned education, myself and other smentioned education for the police force, so I am not sure what you are talking about...but then again we are all idiots so we wouldn't know anything. I guess we should leave it to some one like you who knows what he is talking about :)

[Govern-me]

With the appropriate techonology, even if they wear a ski mask a camera would still help.

In any event cameras are not only for harden criminals, they can be used for a variety of things, eg:

Trafic purposes - instead of posting policemen to check for speeding which is a waste of money and resources.

Education is good but by itself alone it won't help to resolve crime. We need enforced laws and the law enforcers who are not courrpted, which is a major problem in Jamaica.

BTW This idiot isn't just talking off the top of her head. If you look at other countries and see how they do things some of it can be utilized in Jamaica.

Cams won't be of much help , They don't care about cameras ,if they not scared of eyewitnesses ,you already know


If you can't see a person face on the Vid (cause of the mask) ,how will you tell it's them ??

Cameras works good for canadian kids steeling things from the mall etc , it won't be all that in Ja

In my life i haven't seen a cop checking for people speeding ( you sure you from JA ? )
they only bother the robots ,giving out tickets etc

Jamaican people arent the same as other people in other countries ,different mindset ,therefore a new start is needed ,by leading the kids in a better direction .

[easyskanka]

I have recently come across some of the ill-tempered posts in this thread.I agree that it is out of order to call our AK or anyone else an idiot.We can be both honest and direct without resorting to insulting language.

Acid blade asked for the mods to intercede,perhaps they did not because they think 'idiot' was not directed at AK personally but at her view point,which if it is the case, is a very fine line to tread.It does'nt take a wise person to appreciate that their lot is not an easy one to arbitrate where every nit pick would cause us all intolerable frustration.

What I do find a little strange is how virus got away with his little over the top out burst. His motive was very well intentioned but the manner with which it was expressed sets no good an example to our more impressionable membeers.

I'm a born Jamaican and have still got that high octane emotional fervour,but we need to keep our tempers in check,or else it will be our complete undoing.Now i see why vrus was saying his 'fire fi bun' statement earlier in 'anything goes thread'.

The positive side is that this remains a great site despite occassional hiccups,but then it is the nature of the beast we're all involved with.Solidarity is a must but we must all attempt to not be dragged down to levels some might want to see us descend to.

In the the final analysis AK handled the the situation rather well i thought. She did not fall into the trap of mutual mud slinging,but rebuked her accuser in a frank but fair way.

You set us all a good example AK,no less than many of us have come to expect from you.Well done. :eusa_clap

[virus_ncu]

I can see and understand that you have no sense and your mind is like a child. I am going to leave you to be the azz you are.

[virus_ncu]

Oh and Mods deal with that Avatar. I had the same avatar and i had to remove it.

[jerry]

@Govern-me, the only idiot i see here is you. Who are you to come here and start calling people idiots and wat nat. You need fi sekkle uself and change u dutty attidtude. Its obvious u dont anything about jamaica, so stop trying to comment on what you dont know about.

[virus_ncu]

A wonder if the Mods are warning this guy? What kinda avatar is that?

[nuhsenutten]

Cameras works good for canadian kids steeling things from the mall etc , it won't be all that in Ja

In my life i haven't seen a cop checking for people speeding ( you sure you from JA ? )
they only bother the robots ,giving out tickets etc .

u ever been to jamaica ?

Jamaican people arent the same as other people in other countries ,different mindset ,therefore a new start is needed ,by leading the kids in a better direction .
whats that supposed to mean ?....... :mad:

[virus_ncu]

In my life i haven't seen a cop checking for people speeding ( you sure you from JA ? )
they only bother the robots ,giving out tickets etc
LOL :dwl: :rofl: , Woi. Is either you not a jamaican and want to be one, or you realy are one and dont know nothing about your country. If it is so you are a disgrace to the Jamaican society. If you tell me now you are a jamaican but was also a house rat that dont have a Tv or Radio to know what is going on I would understand.

[virus_ncu]

Jamaican people arent the same as other people in other countries ,different mindset ,therefore a new start is needed ,by leading the kids in a better direction .
Expound on that please...

[Govern-me]

I can see and understand that you have no sense and your mind is like a child. I am going to leave you to be the azz you are.

Oh and Mods deal with that Avatar. I had the same avatar and i had to remove it.




okay ... I have no sense ,why you making my pic bother you ?

[Govern-me]

@Govern-me, the only idiot i see here is you. Who are you to come here and start calling people idiots and wat nat. You need fi sekkle uself and change u dutty attidtude. Its obvious u dont anything about jamaica, so stop trying to comment on what you dont know about.

yeah i am the idiot , and what's so bad about calling someone an idiot if you think they are ??

If i'm not an idiot , it doesn't if you think i am an idiot .

did you just say , if i was here longer my name calling would be accepted ??

[Govern-me]

A wonder if the Mods are warning this guy? What kinda avatar is that?

naw , they didn't warn me .. LOLOL@ you a funny person

[Govern-me]

u ever been to jamaica ?


whats that supposed to mean ?....... :mad:

I'm not sure if you read everything , but .. I don't gotta explain anything to you .
read everything again .
carefully /

[Cocoa]

Okay Govern, I have sent you a PM.

[AngelsKiss]

Cams won't be of much help , They don't care about cameras ,if they not scared of eyewitnesses ,you already know


This tells me you don't know much about the technology available.

In my life i haven't seen a cop checking for people speeding ( you sure you from JA ? ) they only bother the robots ,giving out tickets etc

Are you sure you lived in Jamaica? Let me tell you some of their spots where they like to try to catch ppl:

1) The road on the way to Harbourview near Cement Company

2) The road heading to the airport.

3) The road to old Harbour where the trees lined the road

4) The road to the Causeway, especially near Zinc factory at 2:00am in the morning

5) On the way to Manchester that big wide steep road in the mountain (don't remember the name of the hill)

6) As you go around the road to Dunns River

7) There is a spot heading from Negril to Sav (and vice versa) or a lil after you pass Sav (I can't remember exactly) where there is a tree that they also like to park their car and wait to catch you. This one I won't ever forget I got stopped there for speeding myself.

Those are just a few of the places where they like to set speed traps.

Jamaicans are notorious for light flashing to warn you of speed traps, so I don't know what the heck you are talking about!

[AngelsKiss]

In the the final analysis AK handled the the situation rather well i thought. She did not fall into the trap of mutual mud slinging,but rebuked her accuser in a frank but fair way.

You set us all a good example AK,no less than many of us have come to expect from you.Well done. :eusa_clap
Thanks ES, man you have a way with words:) Do you write for a living?:)

[jerry]

In my life i haven't seen a cop checking for people speeding ( you sure you from JA ? ) they only bother the robots ,giving out tickets etc

Is where u did live? My ute it does not matter robot or not, dem stop everyone. If you travel through HWT everyday like me you will see them, like by:

- The intersection where devon house and ymca is.
- Near the exit gate of devon house.
- Intersection right by canadian embassy.
- Off Barbican road near Azmart where you see some ppl selling hub cabs and rims.
- Molynes Rd.

[BlackCryptoKnight]

I didn't come here with any attitude , i just couldn't believe no one said education , i guess no one really cared about this anyways .

There needs to be a serious public education campaign to instill better civic pride and responsibility in the people. That needs to counter the negative messages in the popular music etc. which tell people that "informer fi dead" etc. People need to feel more comfortable with actively helping to stop crime.

The Church can come in here. There role is to be the moral and spiritual guide for the nation. They would need to intensify their efforts at getting people into the churches and living according to higher moral standards.

Also, I'd encourage the private sector to setup funds to support community development and education initiatives for the youth. I believe that if people and businesses are serious about :icon_arro making Jamaica a better place, then they should put their money where their mouths are.

Read before you make judgemental comments.

only an idiot would think the man them care about ****ing Cameras ,you know what a ski-mask is ??

Only an idiot is narrow minded enough to believe that facial recognition is the only reliable form of visual identification, or that the value of video surveilance is only in it's ability to positively identify an individual commiting a crime. These are usually the overconfident and arrogant fools who end up getting caught and scratch their heads in their cells in between sessions with their new significant others, wondering "how in the heck did they catch me?"

Video surveilance can be used to corroborate or disprove an account of a sequence of events. It can be used to in conjunction with other evidence to determine exactly what happened, how it happened, and who did it. Video surveilance does act as a deterrent to some criminals - sure it won't deter everyone, but then it's all about risk management and minimizing risks. You can never totally eliminate risk.

the problem cannot be re-solve like ZAP!!! It's not something that will be fixed 5 years or 10 years from now . Jamaica is not a now thing , it's more like a future thing ,they need to make the same education available for those kids going to $15,000( my uncle there has two kids ,and this is what he pays ,and my other uncle pays samething for his kid) every 3months schools to all the kids (3years and older) ,- a stonger foundation , therefore the younger generation won't grow up to be in the same situation like some people today.

You are right, the problem cannot be solved overnight. In fact, I believe that human beings are incapable of solving the problem at all. However, if there is any hope of resovling it, then steps would need to be taken to address the urgent short term issues - ie. the current crime situation, as well as doing things to ensure long term resolution -ie. educating the youth, and alleviating poverty etc.

Everyone is entitiled to their opinions, but if you are going to post on the board and express yourself, respect the board and refrain from obnoxious behaviour. We don't go for that here.

[AngelsKiss]

Read before you make judgemental comments.

Everyone is entitiled to their opinions, but if you are going to post on the board and express yourself, respect the board and refrain from obnoxious behaviour. We don't go for that here.
WOW BCK...I have never seen you taken such a strong stance with anyone before...you are my new hero :icon_mrgr ;)

BTW...I figured if he thought that the only use of camera is for facial recognition I would leave him in the dark. Why bother to explain to someone who calls us an idiot :D

[BlackCryptoKnight]

WOW BCK...I have never seen you taken such a strong stance with anyone before...you are my new hero :icon_mrgr ;)

I just call it like I see it. ;)


Why bother to explain to someone who calls us an idiot :D
I figured we all have to play our part in educating the youth ;)

[Govern-me]

This tells me you don't know much about the technology available.



Are you sure you lived in Jamaica? Let me tell you some of their spots where they like to try to catch ppl:

1) The road on the way to Harbourview near Cement Company

2) The road heading to the airport.

3) The road to old Harbour where the trees lined the road

4) The road to the Causeway, especially near Zinc factory at 2:00am in the morning

5) On the way to Manchester that big wide steep road in the mountain (don't remember the name of the hill)

6) As you go around the road to Dunns River

7) There is a spot heading from Negril to Sav (and vice versa) or a lil after you pass Sav (I can't remember exactly) where there is a tree that they also like to park their car and wait to catch you. This one I won't ever forget I got stopped there for speeding myself.

Those are just a few of the places where they like to set speed traps.

Jamaicans are notorious for light flashing to warn you of speed traps, so I don't know what the heck you are talking about!


wow ,those "speed traps" you're talking about aren't really speed traps!!
they are really road blocks( you could be driving slow , you still get stop) ,really looking for the robots .

You saying substituting cops with Cams is just funny( i'm sure cams can do searches and find guns) :eusa_whis
cams are everywhere in the world , and crime is everywhere ,so it doesn't do a great deal.

[Govern-me]

My ute it does not matter robot or not, dem stop everyone. If you travel through HWT everyday like me you will see them, like by:



I live in many places .. My fav place is Waltam

This wasn't about who they stop really , it was about taking the cops off the street and using Cams to monitor the place(for people who speed , run stop light etc) .basically she was saying cops are irrelevant ,and i am saying they're not .

[Govern-me]

Read before you make judgemental comments.



Only an idiot is narrow minded enough to believe that facial recognition is the only reliable form of visual identification, or that the value of video surveilance is only in it's ability to positively identify an individual commiting a crime.


Everyone is entitiled to their opinions, but if you are going to post on the board and express yourself, respect the board and refrain from obnoxious behaviour. We don't go for that here.

wow ..I think you just called me an idiot ,but still spoke out against name calling ..WTF ??

If you didn't get main thing here , don't speak on it .

[Chris]

wow ..I think you just called me an idiot ,but still spoke out against name calling ..WTF ??

If you didn't get main thing here , don't speak on it .@Govern-me: may I strongly suggest that you change your attitude and stop being disruptive in this community. Thanks.

[Govern-me]

@Govern-me: may I strongly suggest that you change your attitude and stop being disruptive in this community. Thanks.

yo go weh , Don't write anything to me ..
I'm not the only one on here calling names .

[Chris]

yo go weh , Don't write anything to me ..
I'm not the only one on here calling names . :eusa_naug Sorry you feel that way ...

[ramesh]

yo go weh , Don't write anything to me ..
I'm not the only one on here calling names . Govern-me, I don't think you know who you were talking to. If you did, you wouldn't have that attitude.

[AngelsKiss]

There are some people who refuse to learn from others. Winston Churchill said:

"Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference"

Ain't this the truth?

[jerry]

Good to see that this kid got banned. Good move Chris :eusa_clap.

[BlackCryptoKnight]

wow ..I think you just called me an idiot
lol. You seem a bit unsure ... :eusa_thin

If you didn't get main thing here , don't speak on it .

:rofl:

Moving along...

In order to stop crime, every individual must decide not to commit or condone crime. The successful anticrime plan will have to make this happen.

[BlackCryptoKnight]

What would your anti-crime plan be in 2k7-2k8 ?

[Virus]

Legalize di weed... in mental institutions

So i figure; some waste man on the corner might fall for this, smoke all you want 24/7... in the safety of a mental home, no war no bad vibes, just weed :D
maybe on lime key or some off shore prison...

So right there we know who serious and have them head screwed on. Then we "create more jobs" for the serious minded..?