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prodmaster
August 28, 2005, 10:49 AM
SOURCE:JAMAICA GLEANER (http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20050828/lead/lead2.html)


Glenroy Sinclair, Staff Reporter

OVER THE past two years, the songs of rising Rastafarian singer Siccaturie Alcock, better known as 'Jah Cure', have brought joy to countless dancehall fans the world over.

But for 25-year-old Suzanne Ferguson,hearing his songs on the radio and even the very mention of his name, evokes painful memories. To her, Jah Cure is nothing more than the villain in her flashbacks of the night she and her aunt were both held up at gunpoint, robbed and raped.

Suzanne says Jah Cure, the singer whose songs speak of true love and preach about the virtues of righteousness, brutally abducted, robbed and raped her and her aunt, seven years ago on a dirt road in Monetgo Bay, St. James.

For that crime, the singer was convicted and sentenced to 13 years in prison. He has so far served seven years at one of Kingston's maximum security penal institutions. Prison authorities say his earliest possible release date is July 28, 2007.

Prompted by repeated public statements the singer has made proclaiming his innocence, Suzanne has decided to break her silence and tell her side of the story. She says she has trouble fighting the memories of a gun pointed at her head and of the singer trying to kiss her with his putrid, ganja-smelling mouth as he overpowered and then violently raped her.

She is as bitter about the incident today as she was when it occurred.

The polite, well spoken young woman, took the day off from work to meet with The Sunday Gleaner news team at her home in an upscale neighbourhood near Ironshore, in Montego Bay.

Dressed casually in a white, sleeveless blouse and a pair of blue polkadot pants, Suzanne sat down at a small table on her verandah to tell the tale.

# HER SIDE

"IT WAS a Sunday night, November 8, 1998 when it happened. My two male cousins, my aunt and myself were walking down to the Flamingo Nightclub to play a game of pool. This was something that we did frequently," Suzanneexplained.

As they walked down the street, she observed a tinted, two-door Turbo Starlet motor car, passing them, going in the opposite direction. Within minutes, the group noticed the same car coming slowly back down the road.

"I don't know, but for some reason I took a mental note of the number of the licence plate," said Suzanne.

The group went to the club and after spending about two hours there, decided to head back home. But they did not get very far. On reaching Windsor Road, the car which they had noticed earlier, drove up and blocked their path. Two men were inside. The occupant of the passenger seat jumped out with a gun in his hand and immediately gun-butted one of Suzanne's male cousins. The gunman then ordered the other cousin to walk over to him. Both cousins were robbed and verbally abused.

READ MORE HERE! (http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20050828/lead/lead2.html)

Manu
August 28, 2005, 10:59 AM
Oy man....post the rebuttal too nuh....caah do the man suh?!

virus_ncu
August 28, 2005, 11:12 AM
Mi nu biznizz wid wha she want say. Him never do it.

"Behind these prison walls..." BAP BAP PULL UP.

!FREE JAH CURE!

Kimberly
August 28, 2005, 11:35 AM
wtf ahhm so because one bad vibes did take him,he is supposed to be released.
Get real he is a dirty rapist just like any other rapist.
Who cares that he is an "entertainer" you cant take that into consideration.
I hope he has gotten his fair share of rapes in prison since the sentence is way too low.
Clearly the lady is not making this up,so the only thing Jah Cure can say in rebuttal is
"Im sorry" publicly.
Free Jah Cure for what?
Get real im sure if he had raped your mother you would be singing a different tune.
The problem is we have way too much respect for these dirty entertainers.
Bogle was a murderer and when he died people were acting as though he was someone who was to be held in high esteem.
Now with Sizzla's 3 million deal with Damon Dash's label people are acting as though he is respectable.
Newsflash he is a wife-beater and a murderer.
How do I know he is a wife beater,Sizzla's wife went to the same gym I used to go to one day she was there and he apparently could not find her he came to the gym and when she came out he grabbed her and said "Yu nuh have gym a u yard..why the *** u do yasso" and literally threw her into the BMW she came in he then grabbed the keys out of her hand then sped off while one of his friends drove car he had originally come in.
I cant bother to tell the other story in its entirety but I will say that while jogging at the Mona dam Sizzla and his wife and friends used to jog there as well back when he was really nothing driving a beat up Toyota Levin and I overheard and saw him cursing her.
Thus,when I heard he was a wife beater I was not surprised in the least and had no trouble believing the rumours.

Bahama Mama
August 28, 2005, 12:06 PM
WOW! I guess there was no point in trying to use semen evidence since he used a condom. I no nothing of this story obvioulsy, but on what evidence was this man convicted and sent to prison? Did her cousins id him as this 'Jah Cure'. I remember from the article that she said that she knew it was him becasue of his voice. Me and my sister sound so much alike, that unless you see us together, you would think we were the same person vocally, so how can that hold so much weight, if it did?

I am in no way saying that this woman is lying, but what is the evidence that sent this entainter to prison, as is obvious some people feel that he was sent to prison unjustly.

gucci man
August 28, 2005, 12:46 PM
Mi nu biznizz wid wha she want say. A just one bad vibes did take him that night.

"Behind these prison walls..." BAP BAP PULL UP.

!FREE JAH CURE!

if everything she said was true,

mek him tan a jail and back him blood@#% fist!!!

mi hate rapist!!! f*** them

him have 7 years leave, him shoulda get more to rahtid.

mi love some a him song them, even though him voice kinda gets annoying most times. But bun a raper, Entertainer or not a the same justice them fi get

and btw, him never used any condom "He stopped and searched the glove compartment of the vehicle, then said he couldn't find any"

Manu
August 28, 2005, 12:49 PM
Mi nu biznizz wid wha she want say. A just one bad vibes did take him that night.

"Behind these prison walls..." BAP BAP PULL UP.

!FREE JAH CURE!

Wah kinda ediat statement that yute??? Better yu seh a lie dem a tell pan him but because him couldn't control himself dem fi free him up?? Yu lick yu head? The songs that you like so much were made in prison so what's wrong if he stays there a little longer?????

In any event....there is a rebuttal by him proclaiming his innocence. If it is true...then I feel for him. For one....she didn't see his face...she only knew his voice....then she id him on the streets in mobay by the sound of his voice. From what I'm understanding, she's a society chick and has influences...as the very defence lawyer he had was in her family's pockets...so there. If he's innocent...then he should be freed. If not....lock up him r*** :eusa_evil

virus_ncu
August 28, 2005, 12:53 PM
The Whole Justice system is unjust. The crime investigations here stinks and them wont even alow people to help them make it any better.

nester-san
August 28, 2005, 12:55 PM
Virus
I lose all respect for you, seriously.
If Beenie Man rape your mother and your daughter, I guess it is ok, cause he is an entertainer right. Tell you what, after the fact go around the house singing his songs and watching his videos on TV and see the reaction you get.

If he is innocent then release him, if him do it, im fi ded a jail.

virus_ncu
August 28, 2005, 12:58 PM
Wah kinda ediat statement that yute??? Better yu seh a lie dem a tell pan him but because him couldn't control himself dem fi free him up?? Yu lick yu head? The songs that you like so much were made in prison so what's wrong if he stays there a little longer?????

In any event....there is a rebuttal by him proclaiming his innocence. If it is true...then I feel for him. For one....she didn't see his face...she only knew his voice....then she id him on the streets in mobay by the sound of his voice. From what I'm understanding, she's a society chick and has influences...as the very defence lawyer he had was in her family's pockets...so there. If he's innocent...then he should be freed. If not....lock up him r*** :eusa_evil

Correction taken. A never know what i was thinking. Him song them wicked naa lie but from him a rape him fi go a jail. Plus if a him, he is also a murderer because them was going to kill her cousin them.

Still feeling a little tipsy from Early this morning. :(

gucci man
August 28, 2005, 01:03 PM
...

Still feeling a little tipsy from Early this morning. :(
mi nah lie yute, tha dance gwaan good. the other better, but this one still gwaan good.

mi hung over

---------------
bun a jah cure

virus_ncu
August 28, 2005, 01:05 PM
Virus
I lose all respect for you, seriously.
If Beenie Man rape your mother and your daughter, I guess it is ok, cause he is an entertainer right. Tell you what, after the fact go around the house singing his songs and watching his videos on TV and see the reaction you get.

If he is innocent then release him, if him do it, im fi ded a jail.

I admit what i said was whack. Just remembered i had 2 friends that was raped. After finding out who it was, if it was'nt for my bredrin them from Up Park Camp I would have shoot him kill him. (years ago)

Manu
August 28, 2005, 01:06 PM
The Whole Justice system is unjust. The crime investigations here stinks and them wont even alow people to help them make it any better.


Money talks yute...such is life.....
How can you admit into evidence she id'ing him in public which violates his rights? then he was detained for a week without being charged. I tend to belive his side of the story...because of the inconsistencies in her story and her constant playing on the emotion of people. I know it hurts alot to be violated like that. My ex was raped and she relates it to me. Because of that, she can't have intimate relations with her present boyfriend and it's tearing her up....because she can't get over it and move on. If he didn't use a condom, what happen to semen samples??? Did she mention he was Ras before?? If she was fighting....how come there are no scratches or why didn't she grab his hair?? Where is her aunt's testimony? What happened to her cousins??? She didn't mention that they were masked or anything so how comes she can't remember his face?? Apparently when they held them up, they were there for awhile outside of the vehicle debating over whether to kill their cousins or not. How comes she remembered a license plate number arbitrarily but yet couldn't remember how the guy looked?????? If they were held down in the car so they couldn't see where they were going...how comes she knows where they were taken? How she recognized the area in the night but yet can't remember the guy's face? Only know him by voice??? Come on....I sound like alot of people. Since when can you convict a man for sounding like someone else????? Bwoy him just salt......

virus_ncu
August 28, 2005, 01:07 PM
bun a jah cure
but big up him song them.

virus_ncu
August 28, 2005, 01:14 PM
Money talks yute...such is life.....
How can you admit into evidence she id'ing him in public which violates his rights? then he was detained for a week without being charged. I tend to belive his side of the story...because of the inconsistencies in her story and her constant playing on the emotion of people. I know it hurts alot to be violated like that. My ex was raped and she relates it to me. Because of that, she can't have intimate relations with her present boyfriend and it's tearing her up....because she can't get over it and move on. If he didn't use a condom, what happen to semen samples??? Did she mention he was Ras before?? If she was fighting....how come there are no scratches or why didn't she grab his hair?? Where is her aunt's testimony? What happened to her cousins??? She didn't mention that they were masked or anything so how comes she can't remember his face?? Apparently when they held them up, they were there for awhile outside of the vehicle debating over whether to kill their cousins or not. How comes she remembered a license plate number arbitrarily but yet couldn't remember how the guy looked?????? If they were held down in the car so they couldn't see where they were going...how comes she knows where they were taken? How she recognized the area in the night but yet can't remember the guy's face? Only know him by voice??? Come on....I sound like alot of people. Since when can you convict a man for sounding like someone else????? Bwoy him just salt......

Extremely good point. I was thinging the same thing. I would want to know his full side of the story plus what took place in court.

gucci man
August 28, 2005, 01:53 PM
so what they used as evidence??? him voice alone??

a shegries that. there must be more to evidence

nester-san
August 29, 2005, 12:08 AM
I was talking to a friend today who knows him, and he says he does not know for sure, but he says Jah Cure love follow badman/thug lifestyle and have country man come a town mentality, where him love the gun/criminal thing. He says he was not there, but he would not be surprised, actually he is more for yes than no.

g2cris
August 29, 2005, 06:23 PM
Do I hear Extended Sentence?

Gillion
August 29, 2005, 07:02 PM
How typical... I swear we are a sick society.

A woman says she was raped and we turn the "trial" around on her and make her the butt of the investigation asking her to prove she was raped... jeeze looweeeze.

What about asking the convicted rapist to PROVE he is innocent... yes... PROVE it.

How could a man with money and power get convicted with such "little evidence" to prove his innocence or lack thereof ?

acidblade
August 29, 2005, 08:18 PM
How could a man with money and power get convicted with such "little evidence" to prove his innocence or lack thereof ?
well mr gillion he didn't get his power and fame until after his conviction and couple years behind bars

romas
August 29, 2005, 09:57 PM
although he didnt get his power and fame until afterwards he was still known in the music circles.im hearing too much diff side of the story if he is soo innocent with the kind of influence he has(especially now)im sure he can throw a few dollars around and try to prove his innocence.all who sey him innocent seems to have a softside for him but what about the girl,are we saying "a good fi har"from the time he was convicted its just in the last 2 yrs we a hear from him and im sure half a who a defen him innocence knew nothing of him hence as usual "dem a wagoniss"
this is his story
http://www.jahworks.org/music/interview/jah_cure.htm

pogi_2nr
August 30, 2005, 08:47 AM
What about asking the convicted rapist to PROVE he is innocent... yes... PROVE it.lol that statement reminds me of the witch tests back in the day

When a person was accused of witchcraft, pins were thrust into the body, and if the searchers happened upon a place where, from hardness of the flesh or any other cause, acute pain was not inflicted, tlns was an insensible mark, and held an infallible proof of the person being in league with Satan.
Not one of us here at CY can judge either the woman or jah cure,
unless of course you were one of the jurors or one of the rapists :p

Jae
August 30, 2005, 09:09 AM
I'd love to see the rebuttal for this one, if this is true I'm gonna be banging my head against the wall, because I actually believed this guy. Rapists should all be burnt in the deepest, darkest, hottest parts of hell.

I wanna know the whole story!

virus_ncu
August 30, 2005, 09:25 AM
For some very strange reason I tend to belive Jah Cure over the lady.

Jae
August 30, 2005, 09:36 AM
For some very strange reason I tend to belive Jah Cure over the lady.

Dunno yute, just don't know, I have to be furnished with both sides of the story! :confused:

Gillion
August 30, 2005, 12:30 PM
We alwyas side with the rapists in this country ... makes me sick.

acidblade
August 30, 2005, 12:39 PM
We alwyas side with the rapists in this country ... makes me sick.
if that was the case then he wouldn't be in prison

g2cris
August 30, 2005, 01:48 PM
I still feel that 13 yrs is a little too short.

virus_ncu
August 30, 2005, 07:59 PM
Dunno yute, just don't know, I have to be furnished with both sides of the story! :confused:
both sides are posted. The Womans First. And the linkk to jah cure side is there also. I tend to believe his side.

virus_ncu
August 30, 2005, 08:47 PM
This is Jah cure side of the Story

http://www.jahworks.org/music/interview/jah_cure.htm

acidblade
August 30, 2005, 09:54 PM
thanks for that link virus

virus_ncu
August 31, 2005, 07:01 AM
Now who fa side sound more realistic with evedence and all. kowing how the justice system realy stay.
I believe him. Plus him own lawyer where friends of the girls family and frig him up. And the reportrer who did the interview did his own investigtion and conclude thats its true.

Manu
August 31, 2005, 09:38 PM
We alwyas side with the rapists in this country ... makes me sick.


I expected a more intelligent response from you. Why is it so easy to assume the man's guilt? The fact that she was raped is not on trial here. It's who did the raping. He was convicted based on circumstantial evidence...i.e.....he "sounds" like the guy who raped her... That's bull crap.....GRADE A!!!! I'm not saying he is innocent but everyone has a right to due process. If he is indeed guilty...he should be incarcerated for the rest of his natural life...because her discriptions on the act were heinous. But...if he is innocent....FREE UP THE MAN. I bet if some girl went to the police now and said that a guy who looks like you...or has a shirt like yours raped her...and you were locked up with lack of evidence...you'd be singing a different tune. Four words of advice: Soap-On-A-Rope

Twinkie
September 1, 2005, 03:02 PM
I bet if some girl went to the police now and said that a guy who looks like you...or has a shirt like yours raped her...and you were locked up with lack of evidence...you'd be singing a different tune. Four words of advice: Soap-On-A-Rope

There are so many young girls who are sexually active with men, when the moms find out, would make it seem like is rape.

Despite the age of consent law, these girls have permitted the buddying to gwaan. But these guys are also facing/doing time for statutory rape, all based on the cries of these moms. And me a talk cruff 15 y-o dem.

This situation shows how the law can be bent for whomever, whenever, wherever, I also tend to believe Jah Cure's side.

Jae
September 1, 2005, 03:17 PM
O.k so I get both sides of the story and to be truthful, I'm leaning towards Jah-Cure, due to the absence of evidence. I mean the man was convicted on the basis that his voice 'sounds' like the man who raped her. How incredible is that? Just goes to show how very backward and corrupt the Jamaican "Justice" system is. Even if he is guilty, the man has the right to a fair trial. I do believe it is 'innocent until proven otherwise', guess the law is just on the books, in print and nowhere else.

BlackCryptoKnight
September 1, 2005, 03:50 PM
Unless you were in the court for the trial, or had actual reliable insight into the proceedings rather than speculation or biased accounts, it is not practical to conclude that there was no real evidence to convict him. Fact of the matter is that he was tried, and convicted. That's the only real thing that we can say.

Both parties are likely to have omitted some detail from their accounts.

Manu
September 2, 2005, 12:32 PM
Unless you were in the court for the trial, or had actual reliable insight into the proceedings rather than speculation or biased accounts, it is not practical to conclude that there was no real evidence to convict him. Fact of the matter is that he was tried, and convicted. That's the only real thing that we can say.

Both parties are likely to have omitted some detail from their accounts.

Yes...but the consistency of both stories....none has pointed towards evidence proving his guilt...

She can't be barred from talking about the specifics of the case...because she already has.

jerry
September 2, 2005, 10:16 PM
I dont see how they could lock him up, just bcuz he "sounds " like the rapist, thats just B.S.! I am not 100% sure who is lying or telling the truth, but I think they need to get more evidence to convict him. If he didn't use a condom then some of his DNA must be inside her, why didn't the authoritues do a test on them. Then she goes ahead and says that Jah Cure fren was one of them cuz he sounds like one of them also, thats just crap. Alot of persons mistake my voice for other persons as well. Since the cousins ran away, why didn't they hurry up and get help!
This justice system is just corrupted, they need to prove him guilty with real evidence. If he is guilty he deserves to be in prison, if not, then I wish the best for him.

BlackCryptoKnight
September 5, 2005, 05:03 AM
Read the follow up story (http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20050904/news/news5.html)
They had more evidence than just her remembering his voice.
His alibi didn't work out.
They had a used condom from his accomplice.
They matched the licence plate number the victim remembered to the car he owned.

He doesn't sound as if he is protesting his innocence anymore.

Manu
September 5, 2005, 05:04 PM
Link not working BCK....

If thats the case.....let him long for his baby some more :icon_evil

jerry
September 5, 2005, 08:10 PM
yea BCK the link is dead, when I click on it, i get M$.com.

BlackCryptoKnight
September 5, 2005, 08:40 PM
Link not working BCK....
It has been fixed now.

Drew
September 5, 2005, 09:05 PM
i'm not going to protest wether he did it or not.

but why does this lady's story get the front page of the sunday's paper?? the gleaner has nothing else to print for the lead story?? why she couldn't get her story in the entertainment section?? they had 10 reported rapes in august, why is this lady's story in the page, and not those other ladies?? because he's an entertainer, why mention it because he's an entertainer, to bring him down. come on. the guy is already in prison, you don't go much further down than that.
why did she wait after such a long time to speak out against jah cure??

jah cure made his fame in prison and he is released occasionally to perform at stage shows, what kinda craziness is that?? you lock him up, or u let him out, not both.

jerry
September 5, 2005, 10:45 PM
he is released occasionally to perform at stage shows, what kinda craziness is that?? you lock him up, or u let him out, not both.

I would luv to know the same thing.. how the heck is that possible. How are they able to do this. He seems to be a part-time prisoner. Wait Jah Cure did stage shows??? I thought he only was allowed at the studio?

BlackCryptoKnight
September 6, 2005, 06:38 AM
but why does this lady's story get the front page of the sunday's paper?? the gleaner has nothing else to print for the lead story?? why she couldn't get her story in the entertainment section?? they had 10 reported rapes in august, why is this lady's story in the page, and not those other ladies?? because he's an entertainer, why mention it because he's an entertainer, to bring him down. come on. the guy is already in prison, you don't go much further down than that.
why did she wait after such a long time to speak out against jah cure??
The woman has a right to speak her piece. Considerring that Jah Cure has been speaking his piece on the matter in his music for years, there's nothing wrong with the woman speaking her mind whenever it is comfortable for her to do so. If he did rape her, then so whate if she speaks about it and it reflects negatively on him? Personally, I think he's been doing a great PR job. He's coming up for parole too, so if he's spinning things his way, it's only fair that the victim be allowed to give her side of the story to the public.


Jah cure made his fame in prison and he is released occasionally to perform at stage shows, what kinda craziness is that?? you lock him up, or u let him out, not both. I don't get that part either.

acidblade
September 6, 2005, 06:48 AM
jah cure made his fame in prison and he is released occasionally to perform at stage shows, what kinda craziness is that?? you lock him up, or u let him out, not both.
i would really love to know which stage show he was released to attend....that one new to me sah

Manu
September 6, 2005, 08:41 AM
i would really love to know which stage show he was released to attend....that one new to me sah


LOL.....

Anyways.....well it seems he's guilty. Well in that case....lock him up....dash weh the key. You know how traumatizing it must have been for her to be violated like that????? All he has to do is say hes sorry...and prison reformed him...simple....stop tell lie.....yow....mi aget cross by all this now.....bun a rapist.....BUN A JAH CURE :icon_evil :icon_evil :icon_evil

Drew
September 6, 2005, 09:22 AM
bck don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that her story shouldn't have been heard. i'm asking why it must be on the front page and what happens to every female(or male) that has been raped, do their stories get a copy on the front page.

acidblade are u serious, the man deh a nuff stage shows.

bernie
September 6, 2005, 11:25 AM
never heard of the stage show thing but i really dont understand his "part-time" imprisonment either.
@manu.....i dont think we need to throw away the key....thats why am happy that god aint like man. i can only imagine how damaging it must have been for the woman but i dont think it means to do away with the man. suppose we had done that to every other offender of the law? many peeps learn from their mistakes and lets just hope jah cure's case will be no different (that if he is guilty).i have done regrettable things in my life (not rape y'all....) that folks that looked up to me could have written me off for...but i was given a shot at redemption and am a good boy today....loving and praising god and sharing with others my testamony.
PRAISE THE LORD!!!
uummmm.....i mean ......well thats what i had to say......

Manu
September 6, 2005, 11:35 AM
Yes Bernie....but......he hasn't shown sorrow for his act... You can't be absolved unless you seek forgiveness....samething with God. He's defaming the woman and proclaiming his innocense. Just admit it then say he's sorry. It would mean alot to her....even if it upsets her....if he genuinely is.....she must feel a little better. But if she shows no remorse...what is to stop him from raping again? Especially now since him nah get nuh *kitty*

acidblade
September 6, 2005, 11:39 AM
he hasn't shown sorrow for his act
:eusa_booh Jah Cure - Reflection/Prison Walls :icon_lol:

Manu
September 6, 2005, 11:47 AM
:eusa_booh Jah Cure - Reflection/Prison Walls :icon_lol:

Him sorry him deh a prsion....but him nuh sorry him guh hold dung and tek it....dyam wutless!!!

bernie
September 6, 2005, 12:08 PM
.........Especially now since him nah get nuh *kitty*
how u know what go on between him leaving the cell to the studio and vice versa..... :icon_lol:

Manu
September 6, 2005, 01:09 PM
Well....him might a get one and two fi chu.....but him still a long for it :D

Drew
September 6, 2005, 03:48 PM
bernie check out the list of performers at the fame road party earlier this year. i can name some others, just don't remember the names of the parties right now. trust me, nuff stage shows him appear at.

acidblade
September 6, 2005, 04:43 PM
@Drew he did not perform at any stage show

bernie
September 6, 2005, 05:04 PM
@Drew he did not perform at any stage show
i think i would agree with you.....something like that would be on everyone's tongue....this seems too much of a "hush hush" to be true....

Xenocrates
September 9, 2005, 08:28 PM
"Everytime there is a lot of publicity about Jah Cure, I have even more flashbacks. Sometimes I am so afraid to leave my house. When I go out in the public and hear people say, 'Free Jah Cure', I have serious flashbacks and it becomes very difficult. It seems to me that entertainers are more valued than everybody else in Jamaica and as a woman, I feel seriously undervalued."

- Dancehall is evil. Bun dancehall. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/xenocrates/Smilies/thumbdown.gif

Manu
September 9, 2005, 09:04 PM
- Dancehall is evil. Bun dancehall. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/xenocrates/Smilies/thumbdown.gif

Oh no.....can of worms....here we go again
http://img115.exs.cx/img115/5941/offtopic8ys.gifhttp://img164.exs.cx/img164/7827/offtopic8mg.gif

bernie
September 9, 2005, 11:38 PM
- Dancehall is evil. Bun dancehall. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/xenocrates/Smilies/thumbdown.gif
jus my sentiments....i love reggae but this dancehall thing if crap

Twinkie
September 10, 2005, 10:01 AM
Xeno is your statement based solely on her views? Or other experiences?


Entertainers are highly favoured yes, but not all of them get away from the law. But that is true of celebrities EVERYWHERE. Even CEO's get special trreatment, newscasters, cricketers, if you want dem favouritism deh, excel at something. Go run fe de country, buy out a company, host a prgramme on HYPE. But don't complain bout it.

bernie
September 10, 2005, 10:12 AM
jah cure sings really nice songs....really nice. never heard him singing any of the 'bangarang' crap so many others gravitate to and i believe if he (when released )continues like that with his career....he'll be alright.

W.I.L.L.Y
September 10, 2005, 11:29 AM
All i can seh is the man up fi parole this year or early next year if them decide fi release the man is because them si it fit. There's always 2 sides to a story and both could be wrong, so as i always say believe none a wah u hear and 1/2 a wah u see.

The Ecanem

Kimberly
September 12, 2005, 03:25 PM
Jah Cure's side of the story can only convince the credulous.
Have you guys heard of an id parade?
Remember the lady remembered the plate number,therefore the police ran the plates and the car was registered in Jah Cure's name.
They went to his house and he was identified.
If people cant see Jah Cure is innocent the only thing I can say is look a little deeper.
If we had more technologically advanced DNA analysis procedures then there could be absolutely no speculation.

rodalembs
September 12, 2005, 05:19 PM
The problem with this case is that there is alot of inconsitency in both stories. Jah Cure is in a somewhat unfortuante situation since entertainers in the past seem to beleive that since they are popular ALL women must fall to their feet. So even if he is innocent this stigma follows him.. What is disturbing, is that based on the young ladys account many in the entertainment fraternity were more interested in paying her off that seeing justice be done. That is really shocking! I really dont know that half has been told, and the thing is Jah Cure gets more popular for it.. Yes he is locked up but his stocks has grown because of it.. He is pictured as some hero who is struggling.. ala Neson Mandela ( i went out on a limb here). People wicked sometines and the do devious things. And Cure says on his web site that the arresting officer was along with the girls mother and that he was used just as a scape goat. My questions are?

What reason does she have to just pin this on him?

How come she just decieded to focus in on the licensce plate?

What about her aunt, lets hear her side?

Why in the last article Cure did not say he was innocent categorically ( I find that disturbing)

How was the case handled, was Cure convicted beyond reasonable doubt? (Does that work in jamaica)

Was the forensics (if any ) properly handled?

Frankly there are so many questions and still no answers. The sad thing is that there are many who will say she deserve it cuz she proabalby did a tempt the man, which in itself is a refelection on how certain men view women in our society. Look. Cure if you did, you made a choice, society and (the bible) decrees that you stand the consequences, which you are doing. I hope that you will reflect on your act and if you truly reformed as you say ,you'll can admit it and help a shatterd young miss have closure. If you innocent, i hope the pain you feel will only be transfored into positive energy to use your talent in a postive way. Suzanne, if you speak the truth, the hearts of many are with you and i hope that the wounds will heal and you can carry on your life in time. However, if you know is not Cure, you did the brother a injustice and I hope you will be convicted in your spirit to step forward and admit it.

The half has never been told.. There are three persons who know the truth , GOD, Suzanne and the Rapist... Jah Cure or who ever it may be?

Manu
September 12, 2005, 05:37 PM
The problem with this case is that there is alot of inconsitency in both stories. Jah Cure is in a somewhat unfortuante situation since entertainers in the past seem to beleive that since they are popular ALL women must fall to their feet. So even if he is innocent this stigma follows him.. What is disturbing, is that based on the young ladys account many in the entertainment fraternity were more interested in paying her off that seeing justice be done. That is really shocking! I really dont know that half has been told, and the thing is Jah Cure gets more popular for it.. Yes he is locked up but his stocks has grown because of it.. He is pictured as some hero who is struggling.. ala Neson Mandela ( i went out on a limb here). People wicked sometines and the do devious things. And Cure says on his web site that the arresting officer was along with the girls mother and that he was used just as a scape goat. My questions are?

What reason does she have to just pin this on him?

How come she just decieded to focus in on the licensce plate?

What about her aunt, lets hear her side?

Why in the last article Cure did not say he was innocent categorically ( I find that disturbing)

How was the case handled, was Cure convicted beyond reasonable doubt? (Does that work in jamaica)

Was the forensics (if any ) properly handled?

Frankly there are so many questions and still no answers. The sad thing is that there are many who will say she deserve it cuz she proabalby did a tempt the man, which in itself is a refelection on how certain men view women in our society. Look. Cure if you did, you made a choice, society and (the bible) decrees that you stand the consequences, which you are doing. I hope that you will reflect on your act and if you truly reformed as you say ,you'll can admit it and help a shatterd young miss have closure. If you innocent, i hope the pain you feel will only be transfored into positive energy to use your talent in a postive way. Suzanne, if you speak the truth, the hearts of many are with you and i hope that the wounds will heal and you can carry on your life in time. However, if you know is not Cure, you did the brother a injustice and I hope you will be convicted in your spirit to step forward and admit it.

The half has never been told.. There are three persons who know the truth , GOD, Suzanne and the Rapist... Jah Cure or who ever it may be?

Preach it Roda....Amen so let it be.....

Thats what I been saying all this time!

Kimberly
September 13, 2005, 04:51 PM
Why did she zoom in on the license plate-Anyone with common sense would. In that situation it was the only way she could lead police to her attacker.
Why would she want to pin a crime on a then unknown Jah Cure?
You do realize this is not some sufferer looking to get something from Jah Cure etc.
I am sure she didnt have any previous relationship with Jah Cure;I dont see her having any reason to pin anything on him.
Jah Cure couldnt bother to say he was innocent again because he knows that most people can be sure of his guilt by once glimpse of the victim's interview.
Hence,his statement of "If her article let me stay in jail...jah know reform dont work."
Rather than attacking the things she said in that article,because he cannot as she would then do another interview which would show the mendacity of Jah Cure's account.

Manu
September 13, 2005, 04:56 PM
Why did she zoom in on the license plate-Anyone with common sense would. In that situation it was the only way she could lead police to her attacker.
Why would she want to pin a crime on a then unknown Jah Cure?
You do realize this is not some sufferer looking to get something from Jah Cure etc.
I am sure she didnt have any previous relationship with Jah Cure;I dont see her having any reason to pin anything on him.
Jah Cure couldnt bother to say he was innocent again because he knows that most people can be sure of his guilt by once glimpse of the victim's interview.
Hence,his statement of "If her article let me stay in jail...jah know reform dont work."
Rather than attacking the things she said in that article,because he cannot as she would then do another interview which would show the mendacity of Jah Cure's account.


She zoomed on the license plate before the attack...and his car being at the scene of the crime doesn't mean he was. I could argue this without taking the bar so, based on the evidence which I'm seeing now(not sure if there is indeed more), he shouldn't have been convicted!

bernie
September 13, 2005, 04:58 PM
if its him, i hope that he can be a man and admit...i really wouldn't like to know that such a crime was pinned on him...

Kimberly
September 13, 2005, 05:18 PM
Manu-Dont be ridiculous,she saw a suspicious car she took the license plate what she did was smart not sneaky.
My friend got robbed in broad daylight.
Here's how it happened:
Light went away at around midday an an elderly woman lives on the road. He decided to visit her he was only two houses away from his own when a Nissan van passed him with 3 suspicious men inside who in his words "preed him and his Motorola V600" he immediately registered the plate number.
Here's what happened next the driver got into reverse and one of the men came through the sliding door grabbed the V600,went back into the van which sped off.
If you see someone suspicious take the plate number,I have a pad in my car for this purpose.

My mother almost got raped here's how:
She was walking on the road in the night and two suspicious guys on a bike passed her she looked on the plate number.
The bike reversed and came her way and she began to run,the bike chased but a embankment saved her.
She didnt go to the police but my friend did and the police found other stolen items in the house of the man that the van was registered to.
I was going to start a thread on reverse when my friend got robbed but an even better title would been "Plate Numbers and Reversing"
Three times now ive seen where criminals us reverse to commit crimes.
If only she had run before Jah Cure came back up the hill.
Fortunately,my father has taken the bar and without a doubt he as do people who have not taken the bar can say Jah Cure got off too easy.
Bernie,admit what didnt you hear what he was sorry for,not completing his education,not raping and ruining a woman's life.
My Aunt's husband is a policeman and without a doubt he said he is guilty as well.

Manu
September 13, 2005, 06:05 PM
Don't be ridiculous??? Slow your horses young one. I'm not defending the man.... I'm not saying that what she did was sneaky or not...because IF....and I repeat IF he is indeed the perpetraitor then that was the best thing she could've ever done...however I'm no law student but it doesn't take a judge to realise that the evidence brought forward are circumstancial. I'm basing it solely on the evidence exhibited here in CY. If there was more...and utterly convincing then so be it...but..based on the facts I have now, I'm simply saying that he shouldn't have been convicted based on the fact that he sounds like someone. Also his civilian rights were violated. Yes it is a loop hole in the system but everyone has a right to due process. I've had close female friend's who have been violated and most if not all of them confide in me and turn to me for comfort so I atleast have a good idea of the trauma they encounter. Don't for one minute think that I'm defending the man. I'm assuming that he is innocent....but if he's guilty.....let him stay in prison a little longer because he is not sorry as he has not apologised to his victim and she is apparently still traumatized. I'm not an insensitive a-hole you know. Just the wannabee-awyer part of me kicking in :p (Thanks to Mr. Stephen Vascianie) :eusa_clap

bernie
September 13, 2005, 08:08 PM
Manu-Dont be ridiculous,she saw a suspicious car she took the license plate what she did was smart not sneaky.
My friend got robbed in broad daylight.
Here's how it happened:
Light went away at around midday an an elderly woman lives on the road. He decided to visit her he was only two houses away from his own when a Nissan van passed him with 3 suspicious men inside who in his words "preed him and his Motorola V600" he immediately registered the plate number.
Here's what happened next the driver got into reverse and one of the men came through the sliding door grabbed the V600,went back into the van which sped off.
If you see someone suspicious take the plate number,I have a pad in my car for this purpose.

My mother almost got raped here's how:
She was walking on the road in the night and two suspicious guys on a bike passed her she looked on the plate number.
The bike reversed and came her way and she began to run,the bike chased but a embankment saved her.
She didnt go to the police but my friend did and the police found other stolen items in the house of the man that the van was registered to.
I was going to start a thread on reverse when my friend got robbed but an even better title would been "Plate Numbers and Reversing"
Three times now ive seen where criminals us reverse to commit crimes.
If only she had run before Jah Cure came back up the hill.
Fortunately,my father has taken the bar and without a doubt he as do people who have not taken the bar can say Jah Cure got off too easy.
Bernie,admit what didnt you hear what he was sorry for,not completing his education,not raping and ruining a woman's life.
My Aunt's husband is a policeman and without a doubt he said he is guilty as well.

listen, i really am sorry for what has happened to folks that you know or are related to. i however will not convict a man based on that. dont tell me what your dad or a policeman said....i've had my share of run-ins with cops and some are darn liars..not saying they lied in this case. i however have not seen or heard anything concrete for this man to be in jail...still not saying he didn't do it. and it really doesn't impress if decisions are made by folks that passed the bar....many of them sent innocent peeps to prison. so as long as there is no confession or hard evidence, then i will always be wavering in my mind concerning this

rodalembs
September 14, 2005, 10:18 PM
The half has never been told!!!