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BlackCryptoKnight
August 10, 2004, 08:54 AM
We've seen it time and time again. The police get involved in a shoot out, they kill an alleged gunman, residents of the community protest the shooting and claim the suspect was innocent or was a "father" of the community.

Recently this story was in the news:


Passengers rescued from gunmen

QUICK RESPONSE BY a special squad from the St. Catherine south police last Thursday led to the rescue of passengers aboard a minibus taken over by armed gunmen, one of whom was fatally shot during an exchange of gunfire with the lawmen in the Windsor Heights area.

It is alleged that three men, who had boarded the bus in Spanish Town, brandished guns and took control of the vehicle, which they drove into bushes off the road leading to the Caymanas Golf Club.

Reports said that the men were later joined by five others toting high-powered weapons and the bunch began beating and robbing passengers as well as the bus crew.

Superintendent Cornelius Walker, commanding officer in charge of St. Catherine South, yesterday said a team from the Portmore CIB were alerted and upon the approach of the police the gunmen ran while opening fire.

"There was a shooting and a body was found," he said, adding that a firearm and spent shells were also recovered.

Residents in the area afterwards protested the shooting, claiming the dead man, Marvin Seymour, also called 'Brown Man', was innocent. "They were saying he was not involved but the driver and conductor later identified the dead man as one of those, who had robbed them and passengers," the superintendent pointed out.

Read more at http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20040809/news/news3.html

Now my question is this...why do people protect and even glorify criminals when there is clear evidence of their criminal nature?

Look at the case of the slain "One Order" leader. Why was he treated like a hero, when in fact he was just a plain criminal?

Greatis
August 10, 2004, 09:58 AM
To answer your question... He is a father in the area... His reputation needs to be protected... he feeds the young and give a couple some flour and mackarel and a five bills yuh outa him stealings...

BlackCryptoKnight
August 12, 2004, 11:25 AM
To answer your question... He is a father in the area... His reputation needs to be protected... he feeds the young and give a couple some flour and mackarel and a five bills yuh outa him stealings...

I don't support those arguments. People need to wake up and realize when they're being used and tricked. When criminals give "support" like this, it is a way of buying silence and protection from the community. These criminals take to the next level and impose their control over the residents. It makes no sense.

Cocoa
August 12, 2004, 03:21 PM
Well being from Portmore myself, I know how some of the residents are. Don't want to be an informer and most times, it has always been like that with police vs. residents. Who you think the residents gonna pick up for more time? The badman.
Sad to say but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

BlackCryptoKnight
August 13, 2004, 06:57 AM
Well being from Portmore myself, I know how some of the residents are. Don't want to be an informer and most times, it has always been like that with police vs. residents. Who you think the residents gonna pick up for more time? The badman.
Sad to say but that's the way the cookie crumbles.


Sad for the residents indeed, because it's they who get terrorized by the said bad men. Their business get extorted, which forcess business people to recover costs from the customers. This puts more pressure on the said community members who protect the criminals. Their own youths die in gang feuds and police shootouts. Their own mothers, sisters and girlfriends cry when the men are lost. It just makes no sense. People need to wake up and stop being stupid.

deakie
August 13, 2004, 12:48 PM
its a tall order for the many bck.....

Cocoa
August 13, 2004, 02:46 PM
Fi real BCK mi agree wid yu 150%

BlackCryptoKnight
February 13, 2007, 09:16 AM
Ok, so what's with the songs glorifying robbery and other criminal activity? Why are people celebrating the "mashing of works" and such the like?

bernie
February 13, 2007, 09:26 AM
I KNOW I KNOW!!!!

There's nothing better to do?:eusa_thin

acidblade
February 13, 2007, 09:27 AM
Ok, so what's with the songs glorifying robbery and other criminal activity?

to get 4wds :rolleyes:

Manu
February 13, 2007, 09:32 AM
Ignorance across the board.....

It's the same in rap. You know how many great artistes out there with great, conscious lyrics but still don't get as much respect as the gun-slinging, hoe-bashing, drug dealing kingpins.


Even Jay-Z...I used to have ratings for this negro until he struck a little girl and chucked off her face just because she tried to take a picture of him with her cellphone backstage. I mean... if he doesn't want pictures to be taken of him fine... but assaulting the young girl? Yet people glorify him. He's now richer than Russel Simmons and Sean "P. Diddy" Combs. He isn't afraid to sing about his coke dealign habits when he was coming up. Using it as an excuse because he was hungry....like he was only ****ing person that was hungry. How many kids go hungry because of him after they lose their parents to drugs? This whole **** just pisses the **** out of me.

Sorry for the language. Caan badda edit!

BlackCryptoKnight
February 14, 2007, 03:20 AM
to get 4wds :rolleyes:

So why to they get 4wds for those kinds of lyrics?

RachieBabie
February 14, 2007, 07:32 AM
ppl protect criminals because that's the only way they can get to eat/partie without working... they stay home all day and suss... and den di criminal elements go out and fulfill dem 'duties'.... go back to the communities and 'feed' them.. and the cycle just continues... when they lose on of these 'providers'... they have to complain, cawz now they have no food/money/etc.... who else will provide for them, sum1 new will now have to be trained.

they glorify the music because the music glorifies their 'Robin Hoods'

Justice
February 14, 2007, 10:59 AM
So why to they get 4wds for those kinds of lyrics?

Dancehall artists reflect in their songs what they see in society. Some of them grew up in the inner-city and some still live their, they can only sing about what they know. I do not condone some of the lyrics but people have a right to freedom of speech as long as it is not forced upon people and it does not offend others (the two goes together).

The inner–city is a complex place the rules are not written and people do things for various reasons. I tried explaining to my GF family the other day why people protest when people are killed in the community and for the life of me they couldn’t understand. I came to the conclusion that they didn’t understand because their existence was different and would need to live in these communities to understand why people do some things they do.

BlackCryptoKnight
February 14, 2007, 01:58 PM
...they can only sing about what they know.

I find it extremely difficult to accept that all they know is the negative. There are people in the ghetto who aren't negative like the rest. How does that happen?

Justice
February 14, 2007, 03:27 PM
Families play a huge role in those persons who are not ‘negative’, which I why I keep saying that any crime plan that is to be successful must begin with empowering the family. But you must understand that people who have limited education and are surrounded by negativity will be influence by it and they will either do the negative or in the case of the artists, sing about it.

tiffany
February 20, 2007, 06:51 PM
I saw that clip of Jay Z.. and looked fairly old to me.. so it probably wasn't over her taking a pic wid a camera phone.. ah dunno.. and anybody watch BET lately?? American Gangster.. The Wire??