Are today's fashion trends getting out of control?

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Recently in Jamaica, Bishop Hero Blair made some statements about the fashions of today inciting rape and attracting homosexuals.


Blair blasts youth fashion
Says skimpy dresses, sagging pants invite rapists, gays
Observer Reporter
Monday, August 09, 2004

Jamaica's most prominent evangelical pastor, Bishop Herro Blair, yesterday told young women that their current styles of skimpy, form-hugging clothes, such as midriff blouses, miniskirts and hipster trousers were invitations to rapists.

Males who wear sagging trousers, exposing their underpants - a style popular in Jamaica's dancehall and US hip-hop culture - attracted homosexuals, even if unknowingly, Blair said in a fiery sermon in which he inveighed against the current fashion trends.

Blair argued that such styles, common in the streets of Kingston and other Jamaican cities and towns, were evidence of Jamaica's moral decay, and said that he was sickened by the trend.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20040808t220000-0500_64262_obs_blair_blasts_youth_fashion.asp

Are the dressing styles of today cause for concern?

[Cocoa]

Chrrrps man a go look regardless. Attracting homosexuals? Him never did have nothing betta fi seh?

[Chris]

I think the fashion has gone crazily haywire to be honest, but I don't know about it attracting rapists and homosexuals.

[Chicokid]

Yep..I agree. This is a worldwide thing. If the short skirts attracting rapists..YES. THEY WON'T HAVE MUCH CLOTHES TO RIP OFF :icon_eek:

One time, I noticed a girl trying to pull down a very short skirt she was wearing. Problem is if she tried to pull it down, it would all come right off.

The pants under butt issue..well I'm against that. I don't really see the point of that either. And yes..it attractes the gay pals. Don't go in Paris dress like that

;)

[Chris]

You made some points there Chicokid. I may have to take back my words. If some "'clothes" leaves nothing to the imagination and there are persons who have some compulsive behaviour, it may trigger certain actions on their part.

The way I look at it, just dress like your future employer might buck you up on the road ;)

[Cocoa]

What about freedom of dress and speech? I don't see the reason why rapists and homos might be 'so' enticed? They gonna be whether you in long skirt, broad hat and long sleeve. The motive behind these culprits actions are inexcuseable and shouldn't be based on a factor as kimpy skimpy clothes.

I mean I believe in dressing modestly, but that it not going to stop these criminals.

[BlackCryptoKnight]

I believe that the way you dress does indicate something about how you see yourself, and how you want others to see you. Your style of dress also will influence what people think about you, and can influence how they interact with you. The fact of the matter is, men are visually stimulated. If they see a skimpily clad woman, chances are, they will be thinking some not so pure thoughts about her. Many men interpret skimpy dress to mean "I'm looking a man...apply now". Some of these may well have little control and may give the woman responses that she may not like - not necessarily rape her.

Now I think that over time, things like that can contribute to men objectifying women and not viewing them with the respect they deserve. At the very least this creates a more hostile and unfavourable environment for women. The unfortunate reality is that whether it's a woman's right to chose how she dresses or not, the way she dresses speaks volumes about her, and impacts on the level of respect she gets and how she is perceived. Same goes for the men. So people should bear that in mind when they dress.

[Greatis]

I don't know about this rape thing although it is a valid point... However with regards to how men view women that dress skimpily well... It's like this the female dresses skimpily the man sees her and says to himself "She look good me can tek a one wuk outa har and dats it"

He sees a well dressed female he thinks to himself "Wife material" someone he can settle down with...

"This is not a rule people this is just how some men think. It may be a rule but proof is needed."

[deakie]

lol...let me take a couple of exceptions with mr.blair before saying my own opinion........


"I said to her, 'You can wear those clothes, but not in here'," he recited.
"I told the young lady, 'you are a prime candidate for a rapist'," he added. "It is a serious situation and is nothing to laugh about."
you are worthy of the post of minister.?.....at what point did you think you had the authority to block the witness to someone......based wholly on what they were wearing......you missed the point of christ...he didnt come for the souls that knew better but for the ones that didnt....


He received thunderous applause from his congregation
self righteous reinforcement...


"The way that some of them are walking with their pants down on their hips, they are heading for it," he said. "Homosexuals like to see the bottom of men. Anything you drop from the waist down then you are going down."
and you know this for a fact right? personally, i hope the ones who choose to wear this would be pickpockets and muggers so that when they try escaping, there aint no difficulty in catching.....see me?


He added: "Some of you may say we are not going that far, but some women today are literally walking in the nude. I cannot describe what I feel when I see that - the words have not been invented yet."
hahahha...why do i feel i know that feeling....


its our human right to express ourselves...better our society is open and works its way to common decency on its own impulse than to be forced into it.
this is the kind of issues that women in hardline islamic society have to suffer....perhaps he would like that....
that kinda need in men comes from the very insecurity these men have.

rapists and others like them shouldnt be used as a excuse for the prevention of expression. however, if women feel intimidated then they should act appropriately.
men have a choice as to who they marry so it shouldnt matter to a woman if a man dont like her style simply cause it dont suit him.

but thats just my opinion....

[BlackCryptoKnight]

In nature, certain animals put on a display to attract a mate (eg. peacocks, other birds with brightly coloured feathers). Lemme ask this... why do women wear really skimpy clothes? Why expose all your assets to the world?

[RobyG]

How a person dresses sends a message to others looking on. Dressing skimpily may send even a different message than had intended but still tells you something about the person. Rapists would attack anyone no matter how they are dressed and are people who really need help and deliverance.

I personally believe that the way girls are dressing now is not the cause of moral decay but a symptom. The root of the problem is really in the heart of the people.

[Cocoa]

why do women wear really skimpy clothes? Why expose all your assets to the world?
I think its a self esteem issue..."look at me, oh look at me" seeking the wrong type of attention and truly attracting the wrong kind of attention.

[deakie]

why is the way a person dressed an issue for someone else.....isnt it the other person's desire that is in question....

afterall, the individual is going about their business comfortable...

and one final thing....in what clothes are you born....

[BlackCryptoKnight]

why is the way a person dressed an issue for someone else.....isnt it the other person's desire that is in question....

afterall, the individual is going about their business comfortable...

and one final thing....in what clothes are you born....

Come on deakie...

You know fully well the concept of temptation and incitement.
Sure, every individual ought to be in complete control of his/her emotions, impulses and desires. But in the real world, we are not. It doesn't help the situation if there are agents actively seeking to incite particular responses in people which are not particularly wholesome.

When you think about Security and Risk Management, you have the concept of the vulnerability, the threat, the threat agent and the exploit. A vulnerability is a weakness or an absence of control. People have weakenesses - some lust after things they shouldn't, some can't control certain impulses. The threat is there will arise a situation or entity that will incite a person to act on certain negative impulses because of their inability to control said impulses. The threat agent is that entity that seeks to exploit the vulnerability and realize the threat. In this case, the threat agent is the skimpily clad person.

A skimpily clad woman presents a threat to a man because she is very likely to incite him to have impure thoughts. Having these impure thoughts can lead to many consequences - diminished respect for women, unwholesome views towards sexuality etc. Some men will have the desire to have those impure thoughts manifested in reality, and they may lack the control or discipline necessary to stop themselves from acting out. So they may go out and fornicate, commit adultery, or in the worst case (might be rare, but it is still a possibility), force themselves on people.

Now when you have repeated exposure to those images of skimpily clad women, it's just serves to re-enforce that chain of thought in your brain.

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Remember people don't exist in a vacum. Each individual can have an impact on another.

[Cocoa]

Ok, I am a woman, a lady rather, and I dress modestly. No need to expose any wares.....question: does that mean I am leading on men? The heterosexual community is going to look regardless of what I have on. Simply because I'm modestly dressed, a lady, beautiful, but moreso because I am a woman.
Don't you think?

[deakie]

i'm already enticed from the description alone jcb....maybe we should cover our words as well eh..... :icon_mrgr


but seriously, and hear me out.....hidden things present more desires than things exposed to which we become accustomed. dont you think?
here you are in your life, unhindered by God, to find your way, to show yourself for what kind of person you are......

its all taboo mate......i can admire a girl walking down the road looking sexy and think....wow......i dont feel the need to wanna rape her......

i aint saying others dont but its a problem with themselves....not the woman, not the dress on her back etc....

how would you distinguish between someone who leers after young children in the same way, though they are innocent....see what im saying?....

in fact, where do you draw the line.......hardline islamic countries cover even the face.......

think about it....

[MiTcHiE]

Its rather funny that the trend of wearing ur pants so low that ur underpants are showing has taken off. If only everybody knew how this trend started.

It started in prison. They had no belts to hold up their pants hence y it is falling off.

Then I guess a prisoner was released and continued to go without a belt, and the trend caught on by silly guys.

[Gillion]

BCK.... where the women to answer that question ?


Suggest you invite some to CaribYard

[Cocoa]

I'm a woman but what question? Didn't I answer all of them?

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Lemme ask the question again then.


why do women wear really skimpy clothes? Why expose all your assets to the world?

You all don't think that the skimpy fashion trend is getting out of control?

[Bahama Mama]

Depends on your style or fashion preference, and what you are most comfortable in. I do believe that a woman should wear clothes that accentuates her body, and brings out the best in her figure. Dont hide it, but celebrate it. Why hide an amazing physique behind layers of loosley hanging cloth like a nun in a monastery. I see too many young girls that dress like old maids, becasue they have been taught that their bodies are attractions for the devil.

Now saying that, I do believe that a woman can dress sexy but still maintain an acceptable level of modesty and decorum. It is not attractive for your *** and all its cellulite to be hanging out of your pants. For your bosom to be falling out of your blouse or top. Dont wear a size 0 when you are in fact a size 6. Most men are attracted to women that carry themselves well and still show a level of sexiness. This is a look all women should master.

[Bahama Mama]

Now to respond to the other question, do you think if all women were to be all covered up, thatit woiuld decrease the number of rapes and other sexual assaults being targetted at women. No, I dont think so.


Now common sense would require that a woman dress according to her enviroment and her comfort level. If you live in rough part of town, chances are you will attract some scoundrels sitting up on the blocks. So it would make common sense to tone down, and attempt to bring the least amount of negatve attention to yourself. However a short skirt or a tight blouse never gives a man a right to touch, or force himself on a woman, never!

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Dont hide it, but celebrate it. Why hide an amazing physique behind layers of loosley hanging cloth like a nun in a monastery. I see too many young girls that dress like old maids, becasue they have been taught that their bodies are attractions for the devil.

It's funny, because these days, it would almost seem that any woman who is not exposing something, is classified as dressing like an old maid by many. I agree that people can dress attractively and still be decent. But much of the fashion out there isn't oriented toward the decency part.

I still want to know why some women feel that they need to dress so revealingly, yet when they get certain kinds of responses by men, they get offended.

[Bahama Mama]

It's funny, because these days, it would almost seem that any woman who is not exposing something, is classified as dressing like an old maid by many. I agree that people can dress attractively and still be decent. But much of the fashion out there isn't oriented toward the decency part.

I still want to know why some women feel that they need to dress so revealingly, yet when they get certain kinds of responses by men, they get offended.


Can you define exposure or over exposure? I dont think you would want to see women dress like those in Afghanistan where the only thing exposed is their eyes, that is just oppression in my opinion.

[AngelsKiss]

- It's funny, because these days, it would almost seem that any woman who is not exposing something, is classified as dressing like an old maid by many. I agree that people can dress attractively and still be decent. But much of the fashion out there isn't oriented toward the decency part.

I still want to know why some women feel that they need to dress so revealingly, yet when they get certain kinds of responses by men, they get offended.

Fashion trend like most other worldly pleasures is based on what happens in the society and how most of society perceives each other. Unfortunately, we have moved from the traditions of the past to new ways of doing things and as we move away we tell ourselves we are becoming more liberated when in fact it is the opposite.

I say it is the opposite because too often we allow what others do to dictate the way we live. We allow the celebrities and television to dictate what we do and how we do it.

So in fact not only have we lost our individuality, but we allow other ppl to dictate out lifestyles as well as do our thinking for us.

Bare in mind that the ppl who follow every trend out there is just a slave to others way of thinking, they are followers not leaders.

It's also about how we raise our kids and what we teach them. I say this because the cycle can only stop if we continuosly educate our kids about the important things in life. For example, in today's world, too many kids (especially in North America), knows way more and believe in Santa Clause than they do God or Jesus.

Again too many kids know about the latest rapper or, celeb than they do about life. How many parents do you know that sit and talk with their kids about life and how to constantly examine themselves so that they can be better individuals? The parents themselves are not doing it so how can they even pass this information along?

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Can you define exposure or over exposure? I dont think you would want to see women dress like those in Afghanistan where the only thing exposed is their eyes, that is just oppression in my opinion.

Examples of over exposure:

- Really short shorts that show the lower regions of the gluteous maximus (B-riders).

- Really tight clothes that look like a second skin or body paint. (eg. "printers")

- Anything revealing underwear or lack thereof

- Low cut jeans - showing top part of the rear end.

- Low cut blouses/t-shirts that expose the breasts.

- Anything which leaves nothing to the imagination as to how that person is constructed and proportioned.

[Manu]

Ok...hear me out....from a guys perspective. I would most like prefer to sleep with a woman who advertises he body. You need to have you mammary glands popping out of chest to get a guy's attention and if you do, it's not gonna be the attention you want. I see women wear some extra short skirts that if they lean forward I can see all the goodies....then she's constantly tugging at it. Why? If you're not comfortable in it then why wear it? If I have a girl, I don't want my friends to see all that I'm getting and lusting at her. I want to feel special because I'm the only person seeing all the goodies. You can look sexy without exposing your assetts women. Trust me. You ever see some girls in the profoessional outfits? Thats really sexy to me. Not sexy in the sense that I'm aroused. Sexy in the sense that she appeals to me.

About the rape issue...some men should just learn self control. Simple as that! The reality is that most men allow their hormones to DICtate (pun intended) how they go about dealing with the opposite sex. You hardly see a man "ossst"ing at a women properly attired and walking on the street but as soon as they see the ones with "flyers" walking around advertising...you hear all sorts of lude comments. The fact may be that women excites him so much to the point where he can't control himself. She may not be one he rapes but the problem starts there. I'm not saying that it is the sole cause by any means....but it is a fact and is worth looking into. The paedophile issue is a whole different thing all together. That is a psychological disorder that may be related to insecurity and control issues.

The sagging of pants....and tight pants.....that is sexy to some women...but it is also sexy to men. Women can see your shape in whatever you're wearing and if you spark enough interest, they will come over and "cop-a-feel":icon_mrgr. Bottom line (pun intended) it is not a good sign. We should not have men looking at our rears so stop it. Keep your pants up. Besides advertising... it just doesn't look good...showing your underpants.....why? Women prefer "commando" anyways ;)

[Master E]

a little story a classmate of mine had on a extra short skirt copla ma friends decided to drop a fake $1000.00 bill on the floor in front of her, they told, "hey yuh nuh si yuh money drop" seeing the fake money she quickly bent over and grabbed up the piece of paper tsk tsk tsk :eusa_snoo and yall know what happend after :eusa_whis
Ever since she’s stopped wearing those, short skirts.
The Moral of the story is that you should ware something that you are comfortable in and not something that if you bend every baddy sees unless that your motive

[little warchief]

well me caa carry home a hooker looking girl guh show my grandmother...but now a dayz i find fashion trends to be quiet hilarious in a sort of way...some are definately out of control but people tend to feel comfortable dressing how they dress and it gives them certain self satisfaction and pride in themselves(might not be pride to others) But fashion trends in girls now a days tend to attract the wrong set of guys.....fashion trend in guys now a dayz tend to attract the police !

[Leina]

a little story a classmate of mine had on a extra short skirt copla ma friends decided to drop a fake $1000.00 bill on the floor in front of her, they told, "hey yuh nuh si yuh money drop" seeing the fake money she quickly bent over and grabbed up the piece of paper tsk tsk tsk :eusa_snoo and yall know what happend after :eusa_whis
Ever since she’s stopped wearing those, short skirts.
The Moral of the story is that you should ware something that you are comfortable in and not something that if you bend every baddy sees unless that your motive

i can't see how some girls wear those things all over the place and look comfortable in them really, i only wear them when i'm going on family trips,

[Evil_eyez]

first of all i think his statement in full of wha the bull dead wid!!!!!!!!!!!!
girls that were mini skirt are not inviting rapist..they dont ask 2 b raped
and for the part of attracting homosexuality....his brain mussa really small cuz he shud kno that you are born that way!!!!!
he shud do mo research b4 he open he mouth

[Bahama Mama]

first of all i think his statement in full of wha the bull dead wid!!!!!!!!!!!!
girls that were mini skirt are not inviting rapist..they dont ask 2 b raped
and for the part of attracting homosexuality....his brain mussa really small cuz he shud kno that you are born that way!!!!!
he shud do mo research b4 he open he mouth


Well that is a whole other topic and debate all together :). I dont know why homosexuality is being infiltrated in this topic of skimpy women's clothes. A woman in a skimpy outfit has nothing to fear from a gay man, mainly because he is gay.

[Xenocrates]

Well that is a whole other topic and debate all together :). I dont know why homosexuality is being infiltrated in this topic of skimpy women's clothes. A woman in a skimpy outfit has nothing to fear from a gay man, mainly because he is gay.

- Read the first page of this thread. ;)

With respect to the issue, there are two kinds of women:

1. The Insecure

I find that most women who wear skimpy clothing are usually compensating for some insecurity. I know enough women with ridiculously awesome bodies who don't show it off because they have high levels of self confidence. Men are drawn to them either way, so they don't feel the need for extra advertisement. On the other hand, if they don't feel they have the face or force of character to give them that self confidence, they let their bodies do the talking.

Women want to feel wanted and sexy, even though they don't want to be touched necessarily. I find that women just like the feeling of knowing that guys find them sexy. They like to be reminded of that fact. That's why they feel that if they're too covered, they won't be reminded enough (hence the "old maiden" argument). This is an obvious insecurity issue, which will lead to such commentary as "...if you have it show it off...". You won't feel the need to show it off if you are confident in the wholesomeness of your person. ;)

Ofcourse, the flipside to this coin is obvious. Being reminded might come in more aggressive forms than just lewd commentary. That's where the rape comes in.

2. The Un-educated

The other set are devoid of a sober frame of mind. This has to do with education. I find that women who are well educated, intelligent or sophisticated are far less likely to overly and unnecessarily expose themselves. Educated and sophisticated women tend to have a higher level of self confidence than those who grow up in families or communities where sobriety is not enforced as a part of their upbringing. As a result, they grow up with the pre-programmed mentality that nakedness is normal and will dress in ridiculously and profoundly revealing ways. This is evident in women from the innercity and on the dancehall scene. These women not only have low levels of self confidence, but they were brainwashed by their community (through positive reinforcement by their male peers) that being naked or skimply clad is "encouraged".

Uptown girls don't regularly dress as lewdly or as crass as their downtown or innercity counterparts. This is in effect, quite self-explanatory. Lots of guys find Up-town (read: cultured, educated, classy) girls to be intimidating. These girls notice the effect of their presence on the men around them. The very way they walk, talk, even the way they articulate themselves in speech, has noticeable effects on the men that sorround them. As a result, they get that "I'm wanted", "I'm hot" and "I'm sexy" feeling from more elements outside of their physical appearance. Innercity women are not cultured in the same manner because of their environment. This is why more sophisticated women will prefer form fitting but covering clothing and why innercity women prefer clothing that exposes more skin.

My opinion...

As a man, any woman I'm personally acquainted with is adequately reminded of the wholesomeness of her character as opposed to the obvious beauty of her body. She gets reminded of that too - but only as a subset of her person. This is somewhat of a circular argument however, since I would never be caught dead next to a woman who is scantily clad in the first place. The difference between guys like me and the hound-dog counterparts, is that we see women for the whole that they are, and not just the obvious end and be-all sex objects that they make themselves out to be at times.

A scantily clad woman is not confident enough in herself that she is more than the sum of her parts. You wouldn't need to advertise your body to feel sexy if you didn't know that some malefactor out there will appreciate your half nakedness. Therefore all arguments about women needing to show it off are automatically moot, since they're just subjecting themselves to the same preconception that all women are good for is sex appeal. When you dress half naked out there, I'm not going to care how great a personality you may or may not have. All I'll be thinking about is how fit for sex you are. Nothing more. Leave something to my imagination. I might consider talking to you then.

Food for thought... :eusa_thin

[Manu]

Ok Xeno....I think that is exactly what I said......well obviously not word for word:D. Anyways...your thought on our young men dressing the way they do....:eusa_thin

And to Evil_Eyes

Where are you getting your info from? Being born gay? Oh come on. Being gay is a perversion of the mind. you're not born gay. You're stimulated to become gay.

[Bahama Mama]

- Read the first page of this thread. ;)

The issue of homosexuality IMHO, is too complex of an issue to throw into this debate. Clothes does not make the man who he is inside. We were constantly harping on the issue of homosexuality and scantily clad women, with little discussion on scantily clad men. How does that balance out to an effective argument?


1. The Insecure

I find that most women who wear skimpy clothing are usually compensating for some insecurity. I know enough women with ridiculously awesome bodies who don't show it off because they have high levels of self confidence. Men are drawn to them either way, so they don't feel the need for extra advertisement. On the other hand, if they don't feel they have the face or force of character to give them that self confidence, they let their bodies do the talking.

Women want to feel wanted and sexy, even though they don't want to be touched necessarily. I find that women just like the feeling of knowing that guys find them sexy. They like to be reminded of that fact. That's why they feel that if they're too covered, they won't be reminded enough (hence the "old maiden" argument). This is an obvious insecurity issue, which will lead to such commentary as "...if you have it show it off...". You won't feel the need to show it off if you are confident in the wholesomeness of your person. ;)



Being reminded might come in more aggressive forms than just lewd commentary. That's where the rape comes in.

2. The Un-educated

The other set are devoid of a sober frame of mind. This has to do with education. I find that women who are well educated, intelligent or sophisticated are far less likely to overly and unnecessarily expose themselves. Educated and sophisticated women tend to have a higher level of self confidence than those who grow up in families or communities where sobriety is not enforced as a part of their upbringing. As a result, they grow up with the pre-programmed mentality that nakedness is normal and will dress in ridiculously and profoundly revealing ways. This is evident in women from the innercity and on the dancehall scene. These women not only have low levels of self confidence, but they were brainwashed by their community (through positive reinforcement by their male peers) that being naked or skimply clad is "encouraged".

Uptown girls don't regularly dress as lewdly or as crass as their downtown or innercity counterparts. This is in effect, quite self-explanatory. Lots of guys find Up-town (read: cultured, educated, classy) girls to be intimidating. These girls notice the effect of their presence on the men around them. The very way they walk, talk, even the way they articulate themselves in speech, has noticeable effects on the men that sorround them. As a result, they get that "I'm wanted", "I'm hot" and "I'm sexy" feeling from more elements outside of their physical appearance. Innercity women are not cultured in the same manner because of their environment. This is why more sophisticated women will prefer form fitting but covering clothing and why innercity women prefer clothing that exposes more skin.

My opinion...

As a man, any woman I'm personally acquainted with is adequately reminded of the wholesomeness of her character as opposed to the obvious beauty of her body. She gets reminded of that too - but only as a subset of her person. This is somewhat of a circular argument however, since I would never be caught dead next to a woman who is scantily clad in the first place. The difference between guys like me and the hound-dog counterparts, is that we see women for the whole that they are, and not just the obvious end and be-all sex objects that they make themselves out to be at times.

A scantily clad woman is not confident enough in herself that she is more than the sum of her parts. You wouldn't need to advertise your body to feel sexy if you didn't know that some malefactor out there will appreciate your half nakedness. Therefore all arguments about women needing to show it off are automatically moot, since they're just subjecting themselves to the same preconception that all women are good for is sex appeal. When you dress half naked out there, I'm not going to care how great a personality you may or may not have. All I'll be thinking about is how fit for sex you are. Nothing more. Leave something to my imagination. I might consider talking to you then.

Food for thought... :eusa_thin


This is my opinion.

To say that women wearing scanty clothes attracts rape and assault by men, sends the worng message, and seems to remove responsibility from the brutish man that committed the assault in the first place. Though men are sexually aroused by sight, they and all humans in general also have the tools of choice, reason, and are able to contemplate on the consequences of their actions. We havent evolved as the most intelligent species by total reliance on our hormones.

I think the main argument for wanting women to dress decently should be to maintain and exude a high level of respect for oursleves and our bodies. As well that clothes should not be the mold of our character and who we feel we are or who we can become.

[Xenocrates]

BM, while your point does hold some gravity, it's not what goes into a man that corrupts him, it's what comes out of him. It's what we do, how we manifest ourselves to others, that shows the kind of person we are inside.

I agree with BlackCryptoKnight that it's a double standard that some women should expect to dress scantily and expect men not to treat them as sex objects. The mere fact that they dress that way indicates that the woman wants men to perceive them a certain way. If you dress like a slut, expect to be treated likewise. You follow me?

[Ricky]

Well skimpy clothes just don't cut it for me. Me prefer my empress well dressed so that I have to wonder how her legs look under her dress. I mean no likkle fun no inna de chase again. Somme girls jus tink seh dem fi show off everyting.

Mi memba one time a big someting inna de market a Mo-Bay enuh, one mad man nuh see one a dem skimpy girls ben dung inna de market an' jus grab on pon har. Nuh ask if him nuh start someting right deh suh cause she neva even inna no underwear. It tek dem one long time fi get him offa har. Him tek lick so till him finish do wha him a do. Mi seh one piece a drama! Me nuh tink seh dat deh girl go wear skimpy clothes again. Ha ha, :D :D

[Xenocrates]

LMAO :D Dude.... that's funny :icon_mrgr

[Bahama Mama]

BM, while your point does hold some gravity, it's not what goes into a man that corrupts him, it's what comes out of him. It's what we do, how we manifest ourselves to others, that shows the kind of person we are inside.

I agree with BlackCryptoKnight that it's a double standard that some women should expect to dress scantily and expect men not to treat them as sex objects. The mere fact that they dress that way indicates that the woman wants men to perceive them a certain way. If you dress like a slut, expect to be treated likewise. You follow me?

I get what you are saying X. I personally dont believe that a woman needs to or should dress loose. I feel women should dress in a way that demands respect but also flatters the good figure that God has blessed alot of us with. It takes a fine balance to dress sexy but decently, and I feel some women dont know how to pull it off, or they just feel the need to go to the extreme of things, because of many underlying issues they may have.

However I feel a man does not have to respond to a woman that is dressed in sluttish manner, simply ignore her. Attention is what alot of these women are craving, maybe when they see the more decently dressed females are getting the attention, they may feel inclined to cover up and carry themselves more decently. Because a woman may dress like a harlot or a slut, does not warrant aggressive behaviour from men.

[Manu]

We are in no way condoning the acts of rapists BM. We're simply saying that if it invites the wrong type of attention, then why do women dress that way? I agree that a man should control himself. Alot of us do...but the reality is that some don't...and they are the ones you should be protecting yourself from...understand now?

[Bahama Mama]

We are in no way condoning the acts of rapists BM. We're simply saying that if it invites the wrong type of attention, then why do women dress that way? I agree that a man should control himself. Alot of us do...but the reality is that some don't...and they are the ones you should be protecting yourself from...understand now?

I understood about ten posts ago thankyou. I am simply offering a different stance as a woman. Some women should display more common sense ,and some men should control their urges definately I do agree and understand this. However in any event clothes is simply scraping the surface when we choose a topic like rape.

[nuhsenutten]

a little modesty would not hurt neone now would it ?

[Bahama Mama]

a little modesty would not hurt neone now would it ?


Well of course not, a little self control wouldnt either!

[Ricky]

Well of course not, a little self control wouldnt either!

At the end of it all it comes down to both sexes to display self control. Both in dressing an in contorlling urges. I totally agree.

[nuhsenutten]

true dat ...here here................@ bahama mama

[dtgo]

Recently in Jamaica, Bishop Hero Blair made some statements about the fashions of today inciting rape and attracting homosexuals.



http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20040808t220000-0500_64262_obs_blair_blasts_youth_fashion.asp

Are the dressing styles of today cause for concern?

there is a vast point in regard to the fashion that the youn ppl wear nowadays , i saw this 15yr old girl the other day in a skirt so short that she didnt have to bent 2 show em t-strings she was wearing an a nuh that a the joke , her mom wearing the same outfit going down the street

who get the blame there now :eusa_thin

[Chicokid]

Like mother like daughter. I heard a story once about a mother who took birth control pills. She thought that it was running out too fast. She investigated and to her "surprise" her daughter was using them too :rolleyes:

I agree that the type of clothing commonly dressed by women and young girls each day are attracting the rapists and encouraging sexual desires. I think however that some and I say SOME girls use their dress code to get the guys with the stock pile of money A.K.A GOLD DIGGERS

[nuhsenutten]

wha stealing moms birth cointrol pills .......wow,......somebody's gonna b in trouble

[AngelsKiss]

Like mother like daughter. I heard a story once about a mother who took birth control pills. She thought that it was running out too fast. She investigated and to her "surprise" her daughter was using them too :rolleyes:

I agree that the type of clothing commonly dressed by women and young girls each day are attracting the rapists and encouraging sexual desires. I think however that some and I say SOME girls use their dress code to get the guys with the stock pile of money A.K.A GOLD DIGGERS

First and formost the colthes you wear does not attract sex fiends, sex fiends are sick individuals who will rape irrespective of what you wear!

The clothes you wear may make ppl think a certain way about you but not cause anyone to rape you.

Secondly what about the men who wear their clothes in a most disgusting fashion? We are talking about fashion trend here and we have been harping about women since it started. Let us talk about the men who wear their pants waist all the way down their butt and the crotch below the knees, while showing their underpants. Now if that is not disgusting I don't know what it.

Why do they think anyone want to see their underwear I do not know. The worst part is that the trend actually started in the prisons, due to the fact that prisoners are not allowed to wear belts.

Due to their dress codes many of them are automatically labelled as theives and gang members.

[Bahama Mama]

First and formost the colthes you wear does not attract sex fiends, sex fiends are sick individuals who will rape irrespective of what you wear!

The clothes you wear may make ppl think a certain way about you but not cause anyone to rape you.

Secondly what about the men who wear their clothes in a most disgusting fashion? We are talking about fashion trend here and we have been harping about women since it started. Let us talk about the men who wear their pants waist all the way down their butt and the crotch below the knees, while showing their underpants. Now if that is not disgusting I don't know what it.

Why do they think anyone want to see their underwear I do not know. The worst part is that the trend actually started in the prisons, due to the fact that prisoners are not allowed to wear belts.

Due to their dress codes many of them are automatically labelled as theives and gang members.



Preach!**************

[Ricky]

First and formost the colthes you wear does not attract sex fiends, sex fiends are sick individuals who will rape irrespective of what you wear!

The clothes you wear may make ppl think a certain way about you but not cause anyone to rape you.

Secondly what about the men who wear their clothes in a most disgusting fashion? We are talking about fashion trend here and we have been harping about women since it started. Let us talk about the men who wear their pants waist all the way down their butt and the crotch below the knees, while showing their underpants. Now if that is not disgusting I don't know what it.

Why do they think anyone want to see their underwear I do not know. The worst part is that the trend actually started in the prisons, due to the fact that prisoners are not allowed to wear belts.

Due to their dress codes many of them are automatically labelled as theives and gang members.

Indeed, most of the males that dress that way are gang members or thieves! I'm not saying they all are but a great majority are gang members. Now I am sure if they knew that this trend actually started in prisons where the males have no belts to hold up their pants they would desist from doing so. This is also a way of attrcting homos.

I won't just talk about females because males are in on the dress code abuse as well.

[nuhsenutten]

true true.....the pants under the behind thing nuh mek it ...sick mi :eusa_snoo

[Ricky]

true true.....the pants under the behind thing nuh mek it ...sick mi :eusa_snoo

Dem mus know who dem a try fi attract cause dem deh dressing deh nuh look straight to me. Is only a man weh a seek attention from the wrong places or persons woulda dress dem way deh.

[Chicokid]

First and formost the colthes you wear does not attract sex fiends, sex fiends are sick individuals who will rape irrespective of what you wear!

The clothes you wear may make ppl think a certain way about you but not cause anyone to rape you.

Secondly what about the men who wear their clothes in a most disgusting fashion? We are talking about fashion trend here and we have been harping about women since it started. Let us talk about the men who wear their pants waist all the way down their butt and the crotch below the knees, while showing their underpants. Now if that is not disgusting I don't know what it.

Why do they think anyone want to see their underwear I do not know. The worst part is that the trend actually started in the prisons, due to the fact that prisoners are not allowed to wear belts.

Due to their dress codes many of them are automatically labelled as theives and gang members.


But the dress you wear can influence lust you know. You go around walking the steet in sexy clothes and see how much men would stare you down or even call you out.

PS: About the men wearing their pants below their butts, I think that's nasty. These guys showing off their underwear or in some cases men wearing two pants and an underwear.