View Full Version : Women as the main breadwinners
BlackCryptoKnight
August 16, 2004, 11:39 AM
Is it ok to have the woman as the main income earner in the home? Would it diminish the role of the man in the relationship if the woman made more money than he did?
Arch_Angel
August 16, 2004, 11:48 AM
I don't think it would be easy for any guy to deal with it. But I would continue to play my part in supporting the relationship/family. It is better than the woman and man not having any income at all.
Cocoa
August 16, 2004, 01:59 PM
I am the main breadwinner. But I would think it would be an issue if my (husband, whoever that is), is in a temporary bind, like lost his job or looking for one. Or for some other matter. Marriage is a 20-80, 50-50, sometimes, 10-90. But one hand helps the other.
I do believe though that a man should stand up and be the head in the home. But like I said, if circumstances disables that from happening, then its ok for the woman to bring the cash in.
deakie
August 16, 2004, 03:30 PM
nonsense. it doesnt really matter. we need to destroy these taboo's.
so i suppose because he feels inadequate he is gonna go out a do something foolish to prove he's a man. bwoy.....
i went to uni and looked after my daughter while my wife worked. dam, i was real glad i got that opportunity as they dont stay young forever. twas fun and we had a good time.
didnt affect my study either. yes there are times when its frustrating and you would get that anyway as this is REAL LIFE.
for the most part, i would do it again without even thinking twice. better in my hamnds than the hands of a stranger. they get my values, my way of thinking etc. not some views on a part time basis.
i guess you could say i was lucky. ;)
Arch_Angel
August 16, 2004, 03:51 PM
Good point deakie. What would it matter? As long as we stay and remain faithful to the relationship/family, then it shouldn't matter. Not many men in Jamaica stick around after getting a girl/wife pregnant.
deakie
August 16, 2004, 03:55 PM
thats cause they dont want responsibilty...weak individuals.
and what amazes me is the excuses they come with.
sheesh......
BlackCryptoKnight
August 16, 2004, 04:02 PM
Do you think that a woman who is the main provider in the home would respond to her man as being the head of the household - making certain decisions and exerting certain kind of authority?
How important is the role of chief provider to the perception of manliness that exists in our culture today?
Cocoa
August 16, 2004, 04:06 PM
What nonesense deakie? Whose 'they'?
Cocoa
August 16, 2004, 04:08 PM
Do you think that a woman who is the main provider in the home would respond to her man as being the head of the household - making certain decisions and exerting certain kind of authority? I know I would. I totally belief the man is the head of the house just as Christ is the head of the church, regardless of circumstances.
deakie
August 16, 2004, 04:13 PM
they are the men who run away from looking after their children.
and im not telling you off....there goes that lil fire i was talkin bout..... :D im not saying you are talking nonsense....just that its nonsense to even feel bad about looking after your own.... ;)
BlackCryptoKnight
August 16, 2004, 04:15 PM
I think this issue of women earning more than men would be one of the main reasons for the men to be intimidated by the women. The men feel as if their role of being the provider and caretaker of the family would have been taken over and made redundant by the woman. Thus their image of self would be diminished in their eyes.
deakie
August 16, 2004, 04:16 PM
mine never dissed me if thats what you meant....we wouldnt be together if that was the ralationship either.
dont ppl base their relationships on more than just best attitude?
what about friends or love even, dare i ask.... :icon_twis
Cocoa
August 16, 2004, 04:16 PM
they are the men who run away from looking after their children.
and im not telling you off....there goes that lil fire i was talkin bout..... :D im not saying you are talking nonsense....just that its nonsense to even feel bad about looking after your own.... ;)Oh thanks for clarifying...now I can have a good nights sleep. :D
deakie
August 16, 2004, 04:20 PM
dam...there i was hoping to keep you up.......darn.... :p
Cocoa
August 16, 2004, 04:23 PM
I think this issue of women earning more than men would be one of the main reasons for the men to be intimidated by the women. The men feel as if their role of being the provider and caretaker of the family would have been taken over and made redundant by the woman. Thus their image of self would be diminished in their eyes.
True but it should not be an issue if they have a mutual agreement in the relationship.
dam...there i was hoping to keep you up.......darn....
Yes, and it was a hot night too....;)
(from Hurricane C leaving mi wid no AC or light )
Arch_Angel
August 16, 2004, 04:26 PM
mine never dissed me if thats what you meant....we wouldnt be together if that was the ralationship either.
dont ppl base their relationships on more than just best attitude?
what about friends or love even, dare i ask.... :icon_twis
True still. Many men don't even know what it is to be a man. Staying with your wife/girlfriend when you get her pregnant is an example of being a man. Taking care of your kids while your wife/girlfriend is out working is an example of being a man.
If the woman starts to think she is the head of the household because she raking in the money, then there is going to be a conflict there. More than likely she will lose the relationship with the man.
deakie
August 16, 2004, 04:40 PM
thats generally miscomms or the relationship wasnt balanced before. now the woman can flex, she feels the need to show her strength. could this be because of how she felt before?
tis is what i mean about how we treat ppl or how ppl are treated. once in the other shoe, they do exactly the same....food for thought i hope....
@jcb sorry for you girl....mine the mosquito them...anyhow you open dem window deh.....
i used to live in florida too..... ;)
BlackCryptoKnight
September 15, 2004, 01:31 PM
There are some women who do look down on their man if he earns less than she does. Some feel that since they have acheived economic independence, the status or role that a man plays in the relationship is somewhat diminished.
It may be because of how the women were socialized to believe that real men were the main providers. So if he's making less money, then somehow he's less of a man.
Greatis
September 15, 2004, 05:47 PM
a lot of women have the notion that men should be the breadwinners. And if a female is the bread winner then they ultimately are the man in the house. Personally I have a problem with a female being a breadwinner in my house, simply because of my upbringing. My ego would suffer but truly I just admitted my greatest flaw inflatedego. I thinkan inflated ego is the biggest flaw any male could have and it's the reason men have a problem with females being bread winners. Personally I wouldn't like it.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 15, 2004, 06:14 PM
I personally have no problem with my woman pulling in more money than me. It just means more money for us both :D
I know that I'm capable of pulling my own weight so I have nothing to prove.
Greatis
September 16, 2004, 08:14 AM
well the female pulling in more money is not an issue for me but me not working and she working then bwoy mi woulda feel a way still...
philben
September 17, 2004, 01:56 PM
This is quite an interesting discussion. So ok - this scenario
A single girl meets a guy. They both have good careers and are seeking to better themselves. However the woman is in a better position now financially than he is. He decides that because of this, he is not interested in having a relationship. Would the same reasons given here apply as to why he is backing out?
Greatis
September 17, 2004, 02:20 PM
Basically yes. I wouldn't back out though. I may not like it but hey that should not determine who you spend your time with.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 17, 2004, 03:25 PM
This is quite an interesting discussion. So ok - this scenario
A single girl meets a guy. They both have good careers and are seeking to better themselves. However the woman is in a better position now financially than he is. He decides that because of this, he is not interested in having a relationship. Would the same reasons given here apply as to why he is backing out?
Some of these "sucessful" women have adopted personality traits or mannerisms that turn off men. Some become too aggressive (you gotta be able to fight in the corporate world), some appear "too independent" ie. they project an air of "I don't really need a man" which lead some men to think "It's not worth the hassle" since his role may end up being diminished or downplayed (too much competition with ego). Some men just plain want to have the upper hand financially because they perceive it as a means of effective control.
Cocoa
September 17, 2004, 06:17 PM
So BCK, would you have problem with a woman making more than you?
Yatta
September 18, 2004, 02:26 PM
I personally have no problem with my woman pulling in more money than me. It just means more money for us both.
I won't lie i would feel a way a little......... very little, if they are making more money than me then i'll just suck it up. I've been in the situation before so I know from experience. I look on a relationship as a growing experience, as a couple we are growing to achieve what we want in life. Just as long as we BOTH are working or trying to better ourselves it's all cool it doesn't matter who makes what.
I do believe though that a man should stand up and be the head in the home.
JB i think it was u who wrote this earlier, not sure. To me i'm not really into this HEAD of household thing. In MY eyes it's a 50-50 partnership granted some ppl won't see it that way; no matter what, to ME when i get in a relationship that's how it is. Each of us compliment the other where we lack. I'm not going to title myself over my wife/girl.
That's my 2cents. :D
Kitten
September 18, 2004, 02:47 PM
Some great opinions here. But the bottom line is some men have to suck it up as you say Yatta. Because the have to face the reality that some women have the better paying job. But I think if the women is not trying to look down her nose at her man. And is just showing him the love with the finance. then why should there be a problem in the relationship. I know some other people on the outside have the most problems with it. Like family members and her girlfriends with thier little innuendos. Now that can create the problem.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 05:26 AM
So BCK, would you have problem with a woman making more than you?
I'd have no problem whatsoever. In fact, I wish my wife would strike it filthy rich so I can stop working and just be a kept man :D :p
Cocoa
September 19, 2004, 05:32 AM
LOL @ BCK, If I was her, I wouldn't have a problem with that. I do not feel intimidated at all. And plus as a bonus, I like to be in control - sometimess ;)
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 05:35 AM
LOL @ BCK, If I was her, I wouldn't have a problem with that. I do not feel intimidated at all. And plus as a bonus, I like to be in control - sometimess ;)
After that combat training, I don't think your man would try and stop you from having your way ;)
Cocoa
September 19, 2004, 05:41 AM
LOL You have jokes I see. I promise I won't fight if I donot get my own way. I did say sometimes that being in control is not bad... but not to replace the role of the man in the house.
Gillion
September 20, 2004, 04:49 PM
Is it ok to have the woman as the main income earner in the home? Would it diminish the role of the man in the relationship if the woman made more money than he did?
sure why not ?
no...
a REAL MAN is a MAN money or no damn MONEY... Strong, confident, etc etc etc....
and his wife should be MADE to feel like a WOMAN instead of a HYBRID mix of both genders.
It is ALWAYS up to man to FIND HIMSELF regardless of di money thing... money is just a darn tool.... to exchange for goods and services... it is NOT THE REAL WORTH OF A MAN his HEART and SOUL is what is most important... especially if HIM LOVE GOD.
--yuh zimi ?
Bashment Girl
September 20, 2004, 05:14 PM
Is it ok to have the woman as the main income earner in the home? Would it diminish the role of the man in the relationship if the woman made more money than he did?
I think guys are pre-programmed to believe that their worth is determined by their financial status. I think what he contributes can be so much more than that. So if a woman makes more money it's gravy... as long as he pulls his weight. They both should be contributing... financially and otherwise.
Gillion
September 20, 2004, 05:24 PM
but in comes like bashy missing di butter off this snadwhich...
WOMEN are being pre-programed to determin a mans worth is in his wallet.
And what Women want... is usually what men will gravitate to get subconsciously.
Now learn this... if it wasn't for a woman... most men would be happy to live in cardboard box. (I edited rabi Richard Pryor's quote)
Civilzation is born out of a desire to please many a woman... if you watch birds (st catherin bush) you will notice the male birds that have the biggest nest will always be the first to find a mate, the birds that make a smaller nest will always have a harder time finding mates... UWI zoology is still in mi blood.
So... is not the man dem alone... the BURNDEN is on the man... but the SOURCE is Woman
I don't want no scrub scrub is a guy that can't.... music !!!! TLC one more time.... aint nothing going on but the rent.... SOWAH !!!!
Bashment Girl
September 20, 2004, 05:30 PM
but in comes like bashy missing di butter off this snadwhich...
WOMEN are being pre-programed to determin a mans worth is in his wallet.
And what Women want... is usually what men will gravitate to get subconsciously.
Now learn this... if it wasn't for a woman... most men would be happy to live in cardboard box. (I edited rabi Richard Pryor's quote)
Civilzation is born out of a desire to please many a woman... if you watch birds (st catherin bush) you will notice the male birds that have the biggest nest will always be the first to find a mate, the birds that make a smaller nest will always have a harder time finding mates... UWI zoology is still in mi blood.
So... is not the man dem alone... the BURNDEN is on the man... but the SOURCE is Woman
I don't want no scrub scrub is a guy that can't.... music !!!! TLC one more time.... aint nothing going on but the rent.... SOWAH !!!!
lol lol OK! Although I don't disagree with you I will say that women are not the root of all evil as you seem to portray in this little post here! lol... I will say that GOODY GOODY's like me are out there.
I'm not looking for a guy who can buy me the world... I have my own money!
Gillion
September 20, 2004, 05:34 PM
rhatid... yuh nuh read yuh bible... BABY START WID GENISIS.... den work you way down to Jesus cousin in the Gosples.... what was it dat salome and har mumma did want again.... jon di baptise head, pon a plate... and herod never want fi do it ? and den work back ways to Samson and Solomon... David too. Every read the story of Esther ?
And every one of dem do dem tings fi please..... OMAN
what you mean not di root... why unu have di curse of labour pains ?
hahahahahahaaaa
Bashment Girl
September 20, 2004, 05:37 PM
Oh no the Bible thumping starts.
I personally am not interested in a man's POCKET BOOK! I personally am not the ROOT OF EVIL OK? lol... you're classic! LOL :icon_lol:
Why don't you find a Goody Goody? Stop lookin' at the girls in those shorts cuz they ain't for free lol ;) :icon_lol:
Gillion
September 20, 2004, 05:39 PM
mi have di curse os solomon... wise nuh rhatid but weak to di oman dem... there is nothing as juicy as a woman.... ohh lawd.... short shorts ? wat you say ? like dis ?
Bashment Girl
September 20, 2004, 05:42 PM
Whoa somebody missed the boat! lol... Get a good goody and DONE! lol... :rolleyes: :icon_lol: Not all girls are badminded, materialistic, and evil..
Gillion
September 20, 2004, 05:48 PM
miss goody goody... muuusssiiccc
Bashment Girl
September 20, 2004, 05:49 PM
miss goody goody... muuusssiiccc
got that CD right here :cool:
BlackCryptoKnight
November 10, 2005, 06:09 AM
So how di massive feel 'bout dis topic ya now?
Twinkie
November 10, 2005, 09:56 AM
Regarding what exactly? Be more specific.
BlackCryptoKnight
November 10, 2005, 11:52 AM
Regarding what exactly? Be more specific.
About women as the main breadwinners.
BlackCryptoKnight
April 3, 2008, 06:30 PM
Some women appear to be too successful to find a mate. (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/HomeMortgageSavings/TooSuccessfulForAMate.aspx?GT1=33009#pageTopAchor)
Imagine that ...
Manu
April 3, 2008, 07:26 PM
Is it wrong though, in this case, for a money to want a man at her level or above hers?
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