Conspiracy Theories

[Xenocrates]

I'm sure you're familiar with them. Conspiracy Theories, for the uninitiated, are theories of unscrupulous conspirative acts which masquerade as one thing, secretly hiding the ulterior motives of a large organisation, usually world governments, monarchies and cults. Here are some of the most popular of such theories:


Event: Princess Diana dies in a high speed automobile chase by Paparazzi in France. Theory: It was orchestrated by the royal family, namely the Queen of England, as a plot of revenge for her divorcing Charles. Status: False. Proof: Invented by a Tabloid magazine to increase circulation in France.


Event: An airplane supposedly flies into the Pentagon on 911. Theory: It wasn't an airplane, but a missile. Status: Probably True Proof: No airplane wreckage was ever recovered from the site. A camera mounted on a nearby gas station photographed the "object" which had the bearings of a ground to air missile.


Event: The WTC buildings collapsed on 911. Theory: The buildings were rigged with bombs. Airplane fuel could never destroy such buildings. Status: False Proof: The buildings collapsed because the metal bindings for each floor were not properly covered in fire-proofing. The Air-Plane fuel burned through them like a knife through wet paper. The weight at the top of the building, in a domino effect bought down the rest of the structure when the floors on fire were burned away from undernearth it.


Event: The US invaded Iraq in 2003, ushering in the beginning of the Iraqi war. Theory: Bush is after the OIL in Iraq. Status: True Proof: Revelations from several ex-chiefs of staff have shown the obvious connection between Bush, Halliburton (an Oil Company funded by Saudi Arabia) and a number of defence companies which manufacture weapons and vehicles of war for the US Gov't are all tied in together with Bush's mindless will to run into Iraq. It is well documented. The event has seen the resignation of several chiefs of staff, immediately after Bush won a second term as President of the USA.


Event: 911 - Terrorists fly planes into the World Trade Center and other locations around the US. Theory: Bush was in on it. Status: False. Proof: The Bushes have had very close ties with the Bin Laden family for nearly 40 years. However, Osama Bin Laden was excommunicated by his family for his affiliation with Islaamist fundamentalism. Bush only sought to protect his Bin Laden friends when 911 occurred, since he was sure there would be a backlash from the US Gov't towards them, even though they were not affiliated with the incident. Bush was just incompetent, not a conspirator.


Theory: The US Government, like many major governments around the world, is run by a secret, evil organisation called the Illuminati. Status: False. Proof: These governments are being run by people who are members of the Free Masons (we know them in Jamaica as 'The Lodge') - the Illuminati are their natural enemies. They are based in Rome. The Free Masons came out of Ancient Greece. The Illuminati just gave them a bad name.


Event: A strange craft crash landed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. Theory: They were aliens, and the government is trying to hide their existence from the public. Status: False. Proof: The military was trying to protect a secret weather monitoring/control device that they had engineered using Tesla coils. It was not an alien space craft. If the public made knowledge of such a device known, it would have started off a war between the USA and Russia - which almost occurred.


Theory: Technology of said craft above pioneered the development of integrated circuits, printed circuit boards, fibre-optics and kevlar armour. Status: False. Proof: Those technologies were man made - over a period of 30 years after said incident occurred.


There are many more, but this is long enough. I'll add more later. What's your take on these? Do you know of any that you'd like to add? Let's see if we can debunk them.

[Malloc-X]

I want to know more about the free masons and the Illuminati

[rreky]

I want to know more about the free masons and the Illuminati
Google is your friend.

[Izemi-Clem]

Hail Xenocrates

As I overstand it to be, Free Masons trace thier roots (or claim to) way back to Hemetic traditions in Egypt and more importantly to the building of King Solomon's temple whereby the master builder gave instructions in secret.
The first establisehed Free Mason groups started in Europe during medival times from guilds of stone workers where the Scotish and Irish Constitutions were established.
The Hemetic traditions of Europe also claim inspiration for not only Free Masonry but also Alchemy and the Roscetutionist. The Roscetutionist being the most secretive or the most mis-understood society and are claimed to be the true identitiy of the Illuminati.

Conspiracy theories are distractions which feed the basic nature of suspiscion in mankind facilitated by the control of information (or lack of) by whosoever for whatever reason. And while we cannot ingore them as much as we would like to, half truths and plausibility keep us guessing, it is our responsibilty to seek further the truth rather than to bite at anything that goes by.

The latest theory has me planning a revolution to overthrow the New World Order or something like that.. lets see how that one pans out.

Izemi-Clem

[Bahama Mama]

Event: Princess Diana dies in a high speed automobile chase by Paparazzi in France. Theory: It was orchestrated by the royal family, namely the Queen of England, as a plot of revenge for her divorcing Charles. Status: False. Proof: Invented by a Tabloid magazine to increase circulation in France.





A simple tradegy in my personal opinion. One that was fueled by overzealous paparazzi and Diana's burning desire to guard her privacy following a high profile divorce. The Queen had nothing to fear from Diana, as Diana could never rise to the rank of monarch following her divorce from Charles. She had two grandsons out of the deal, one the future King of England behind Charles, so that was secure.

But another theory that was circulating was that the crash was orchestrated by the family of Dodi Fayad, Diana's boyfriend and the other passenger on that ill fated night. They didnt approve of Diana because she wasnt Muslim, and if she married Dodi, she stood to inherit at least part of his massive wealth if he passed before her.

If this one is indeed true, it certainly backfired as Dodi also perished.

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Conspiracy theory:
HIV/AIDS was engineered in an attempt to kill off black people.

:eusa_thin

[mead]

Event: An airplane supposedly flies into the Pentagon on 911. Theory: It wasn't an airplane, but a missile. Status: Probably True Proof: No airplane wreckage was ever recovered from the site. A camera mounted on a nearby gas station photographed the "object" which had the bearings of a ground to air missile.

Tell me more, because from a recent documentry on discovery channel it was reported that part of the left wing broke off before impact because the plane was flying very low even hitting seveal light poles and scraped along the ground. Also found outside was parts of the tail section outside the point of impact. Apart from that there are a whole lot of photos showin parts of the plane inside and outside the pentagon. I don't think there is any merit to this conpiracy theory!

Quick facts from website (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html) :

# Review the facts
# Size of 757 matches the initial size of hole in the building - somewhere between 13 and 16 feet (757 is 13 feet wide/high)
# Rims found in building match those of a 757
# Small turbine engine outside is an APU
# Same engine has been clearly stated to not match a Global Hawk engine
# Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos
# Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo
# Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211
# Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes
# Large deisel generator in front of building hit by a large heavy object
# Large deisel engine outside is spun towards the building - could not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion
# Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner
# Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon
# 60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage .

[bernie]

hmmmm....this is getting quite interesting....:eusa_thin i need some popcorn and soda

[Manu]

Tell me more, because from a recent documentry on discovery channel it was reported that part of the left wing broke off before impact because the plane was flying very low even hitting seveal light poles and scraped along the ground. Also found outside was parts of the tail section outside the point of impact. Apart from that there are a whole lot of photos showin parts of the plane inside and outside the pentagon. I don't think there is any merit to this conpiracy theory!

Quick facts from website (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html) :

# Review the facts
# Size of 757 matches the initial size of hole in the building - somewhere between 13 and 16 feet (757 is 13 feet wide/high)
# Rims found in building match those of a 757
# Small turbine engine outside is an APU
# Same engine has been clearly stated to not match a Global Hawk engine
# Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos
# Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo
# Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211
# Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes
# Large deisel generator in front of building hit by a large heavy object
# Large deisel engine outside is spun towards the building - could not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion
# Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner
# Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon
# 60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage .


That's what I'm saying. I think Xeno confused with the other one that was supposedly shot down. That one was heading for Camp David...and it was alleged that either Fighter jets shot it down or surface to air missiles...

There was no struggle on board between hijackers and passengers. Justa theory.

As far as I heard also....the one that struck the pentagon was heading for the White House but came in too fast and over shot the White House. It was trying to turn hence the angle of impact with the Pentagon suggested that it was turning.

[Jae]

Here's a conspiracy theory: CY was made to gauge the intelligence of Caribbean ppl by Aliens who already are planning to take over the world and need a certain territory to be their commander-in-chief, North America has been scratched off the list...O.k ok I'm just crazy...never mind.

[bernie]

Here's a conspiracy theory: CY was made to gauge the intelligence of Caribbean ppl by Aliens who already are planning to take over the world and need a certain territory to be their commander-in-chief, North America has been scratched off the list...O.k ok I'm just crazy...never mind.
so what planet are you from?:D

[ramesh]

so what planet are you from?:D That joke is too old!

[Babyjay]

I say the Jesuits (an R.C organisation headed by the Pope) are behind most of world tragedy.

[Nastro]

Tell me more, because from a recent documentry on discovery channel it was reported that part of the left wing broke off before impact because the plane was flying very low even hitting seveal light poles and scraped along the ground. Also found outside was parts of the tail section outside the point of impact. Apart from that there are a whole lot of photos showin parts of the plane inside and outside the pentagon. I don't think there is any merit to this conpiracy theory!

Quick facts from website (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html) :


Ok... Actually Xeno is right on this on. What you are reading from this website its one of the media conjoured cover ups to ensure that the truth is not know.

How do I substantiate this? Look at the actually photos of the the pentagon damage. There absolutely no plan wing damages to the building nor were there any plane scraps outside of the building. A wing less plane? I think not.

Look at these photos.....http://www.serendipity.li/wot/crash_site.htm

Tell you what, look at what was presented by CNN

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07/gen.pentagon.pictures/

Look at the gallery of pictures and watch the video (ignoring what is being said). You should be able to figure the rest. ;)

[Nastro]

Event: The WTC buildings collapsed on 911. Theory: The buildings were rigged with bombs. Airplane fuel could never destroy such buildings. Status: False Proof: The buildings collapsed because the metal bindings for each floor were not properly covered in fire-proofing. The Air-Plane fuel burned through them like a knife through wet paper. The weight at the top of the building, in a domino effect bought down the rest of the structure when the floors on fire were burned away from undernearth it.



Got to disagree with you Xeno. If you watch the video of the "bombing" <- (please note the term loosely being used ;) ) , you will notice that the explosions that were said to be cause the be plane hitting the building actually occured several stories below where the plane actually hit. Here mark you I am referring to the twin towers.

Another thing that is being left out greatly by the media is that WTC 7, a building just beside the twin towers also collapsed. The problem is no plane hit it at all!!! Evenmore so, there was an entire floor that was made PRIVATE and re-done with Bombing re-inforcements and super High intensity glass. This floor some how has the perfect height and view of the spot that the plane crashed. Few hours after the twin towers went down, the WTC 7 building just went down in a rumble.

hhhmmm.... I wonder why?

To sweeten the pot, the new owner of the buildings (just two months before the bombings) was a explosion expert. His field.... yup bringing down buildings. He has made over US$500 million dollars in PROFIT from insurance claims on WTC 7 alone!

[Nastro]

Event: 911 - Terrorists fly planes into the World Trade Center and other locations around the US. Theory: Bush was in on it. Status: False. Proof: The Bushes have had very close ties with the Bin Laden family for nearly 40 years. However, Osama Bin Laden was excommunicated by his family for his affiliation with Islaamist fundamentalism. Bush only sought to protect his Bin Laden friends when 911 occurred, since he was sure there would be a backlash from the US Gov't towards them, even though they were not affiliated with the incident. Bush was just incompetent, not a conspirator.


This too you need to re-think. Did you know that the war on Afghanistan was signed before 9/11, but post dated for a date after? Why would they do that?

Or the fact that he knew of the hijacked plane BEFORE it even hit the FIRST tower? That he was informed BEFORE he went to the school with the kids.

Did you know that the retired general who did the oklahoma bombing came clean? Even with audio to prove that the FBI was behind it?

[Nastro]

Marshall law is something they hunger for. Hitler did something similar to gain it in Germany where is he had set his own governmental buildings on fire and them blamed the opposition. With that he gained trust from his country men who gladly embraced Marshall Law as a means to ensure their own safety.

The US has been trying this for ages. Even Pearl Harbour was a setup. The United States government were fully aware of the Japenese in tension and that they were in the air about the attack Pearl Harbour, but did nothing. To go even further, did you know that there was a commission signed by a particular president to have a Commercial Airline, with passengers on board, fly over Cuba airspace, then shoot it down and then blame it Castro?

kiss teet. Mi tiad...a next time mi chat some more.

[Malloc-X]

chat di rest nastro, chat di rest

[bernie]

That joke is too old!
lol...even you pull a few oldies at times rammy....is it that odies are for old...der folks like you?:icon_mrgr

[rreky]

Here are a few:

Grant Wood's famous painting of an old Indiana couple posing in front of their farmhouse is considered the definitive portrait of the Midwestern farmer. In actuality, the man and women aren't really a couple nor are they farmers. Also, the "farmhouse" in the picture was once used as a bordello.

William Eno is considered to be the "Father of Traffic Safety." He supposedly originated stop signs, one-way streets, taxi stands, pedestrian safety islands and traffic rotaries. What is not known is that he never learned to drive and he considered cars to be a passing fad.

The Beach Boys, who were considered to be the "Kings of California Surfing, started a national surfing craze in the early 1960's. Four of the original members of the band knew nothing about surfing and the only one that did, drowned in 1983.

In October 1994, "Weekly Reader" magazine ran an article that "discussed smoker' rights and the harm done to the tobacco industry by smoking restrictions. The article said nothing about smoking being the cause of lung cancer. Turns out the magazine is owned by the largest shareholders in RJR Nabisco, makers of Camel cigarettes.

Karl Marx, considered to be the enemy of American capitalism, accepted a job as the London correspondent of the New York Tribune years after he had become famous as the author of the "Communist Manifesto." His reason was that his anti-capitalist political writing hadn't earned him enough to live on.

[Manu]

Those a re more fun facts than Conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories are like the original Madonna on The Rocks and the original Last Supper ;)

[Xenocrates]

How come nobody has posted anything about them Aliens?

:icon_arro BCK

Not only that:

Event: AIDS ravishes Africa, and then homosexuals in New York. Theory: AIDS was deliberately engineered. Status: True. Proof: AIDS was the result of a vaccine that was intended to prevent cancer. A side effect of it was that it totally shut down the immune system of it's host, leaving them prone to any disease without bodily defence. Carelessness on behalf of the doctors who concocted the virus allowed it to get out into the wild (via a lab monkey which was mistakenly shipped out to a wildlife preserve in Africa) - but not before it was tested on a lone black man in 1959, whose remains were retrieved from cold storage in the 1980's to prove the case. It was engineered from two viruses which only affect sheep and cows.

Talk about scary...

[bernie]

i really didn't know that xeno.....
gonna do some research on it. its really scary

[Xenocrates]

No need to research it. AngelsKiss posted the link to a very thorough and lengthy exposition on the whole deal. Click here (http://www.caribyard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=35137&postcount=11). Or you could just go straight to the source (http://www.whale.to/vaccine/cantwell.html). She seems have a knack for finding these sites. :)

[mead]

This too you need to re-think. Did you know that the war on Afghanistan was signed before 9/11, but post dated for a date after? Why would they do that?

This doesn't surprise me at all, a number of countries including the United States draft plans for possible wars against various other countries. They have plans for war with China, Cuba , Pakistan, India ,and obviously Syria and Iran. I can remember a few months ago they did a major multi-million dollar war simulation with what they referred to as a formidable enemy. It was later found out it was against Israel (one of their biggest allies). That doesn't mean they already decided that they will be going to war with them, it's just prudent planning (contingency), the US Department of Defense do these things all the while.
These plans are drafted, signed off, and updated again later as the need arise.




Or the fact that he knew of the hijacked plane BEFORE it even hit the FIRST tower? That he was informed BEFORE he went to the school with the kids.

LOL, FACT, what fact! You have yet to present the source of your "fact".



Did you know that the retired general who did the oklahoma bombing came clean? Even with audio to prove that the FBI was behind it?
[/QUOTE]
This is news to me, what general? Where is this audio tape? What was the motive for the bombing in the first place? Is this the same BS argument the white supremacist have been using about One World Government?
Have you been listening to Muta?
:eusa_whis

[mead]

Ok... Actually Xeno is right on this on. What you are reading from this website its one of the media conjoured cover ups to ensure that the truth is not know.

How do I substantiate this? Look at the actually photos of the the pentagon damage. There absolutely no plan wing damages to the building nor were there any plane scraps outside of the building. A wing less plane? I think not.

Look at these photos.....http://www.serendipity.li/wot/crash_site.htm

Tell you what, look at what was presented by CNN

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07/gen.pentagon.pictures/

Look at the gallery of pictures and watch the video (ignoring what is being said). You should be able to figure the rest. ;)

Sorry, I wasn't able to.
Are you telling me that the photos on that site showing the burned remains of the plane are all fakes?
Who fired this missile, and for what purpose? What happen to that flight, did it just disappeared? And how do you account for the bodies of the passengers recovered at the pentagon cash sight? Or was those burned bodies planted there?
This makes no sense to me!
Btw what vested interest does "the media" have in "covering up the truth"? What media groups are involve in this elaborate plot, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC,CBS, Al Jazeera (Arabic news channel), BBC?

[Nastro]

Sorry, I wasn't able to.
Are you telling me that the photos on that site showing the burned remains of the plane are all fakes?
Who fired this missile, and for what purpose? What happen to that flight, did it just disappeared? And how do you account for the bodies of the passengers recovered at the pentagon cash sight? Or was those burned bodies planted there?
This makes no sense to me!
Btw what vested interest does "the media" have in "covering up the truth"? What media groups are involve in this elaborate plot, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC,CBS, Al Jazeera (Arabic news channel), BBC?

Chief look at the pictures... Then answer ;) If you did you wouldn't have to ask those questions. Don't draw conclusions before making observations, it twarts skews the observation. ;)




LOL, FACT, what fact! You have yet to present the source of your "fact".

oh...sorry. I made the assumption that most persons would have seen one of the many inside looks on 9/11 - or watched the 911 trials.

If you are based locally I can provide you free of costs info that I have at hand.

-OR- go to google.com | Search for "911 prior knowledge"

Just remember though that the title of the thread is Conspiracy theories - Not Facts.

[mead]

Chief look at the pictures... Then answer ;) If you did you wouldn't have to ask those questions. Don't draw conclusions before making observations, it twarts skews the observation. ;)

I did, nothing there in those photos that looks suspicious .

Anyway answer the questions I pose above:



Who fired this missile, and for what purpose?
What happen to that flight, did it just disappeared?
How do you account for the bodies of the passengers recovered at the pentagon cash sight? Or was those burned bodies planted there?
What vested interest does "the media" have in "covering up the truth"? What media groups are involve in this elaborate plot, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC,CBS, Al Jazeera (Arabic news channel), BBC?




Just remember though that the title of the thread is Conspiracy theories - Not Facts.

Yuh serious, tell mi yuh joking. If you're saying a theory is correct (as you did) don't you have to substantiate it, and how else are you going to accomplish that without facts?

[Nastro]

You looked the pictures of a plane crashing to a building...yet there were no wing damage and that isn't suspicious. So, no wing damage going into the building, now debris of plane wings outside....hhhmmmm.

For your second quote, find out please what other countries have done to attain martial law. Find out if the United States are trying to institute martial law.

Media can only give what they are given. Those media who are privy to ....

You know what.... You are right, I am wrong.

Let the thread continue.


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My offer to prove you with information if you are available locally still stands.

[mead]

You looked the pictures of a plane crashing to a building...yet there were no wing damage and that isn't suspicious. So, no wing damage going into the building, now debris of plane wings outside....hhhmmmm.

For your second quote, find out please what other countries have done to attain martial law. Find out if the United States are trying to institute martial law.

Media can only give what they are given. Those media who are privy to ....

You know what.... You are right, I am wrong.

Let the thread continue.


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Yuh a run from the argument LOL :dwl:

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Conspiracy Theory: Jamaican politicians and police are deeply involved in criminality and gang activity. They orchestrate much of the criminal enterprises which carry out activities.

[mead]

Conspiracy Theory: Jamaican politicians and police are deeply involved in criminality and gang activity. They orchestrate much of the criminal enterprises which carry out activities.
That's a good one BlackCryptoKnight.

[Nastro]

Yuh a run from the argument LOL :dwl:

Yup.

If we go on and on it will go on into nothing with one person trying to prove something to be a fact (which it is not) and one person playing the devils advocate that the event is not a fact (which is already established as not being a fact). I am sure you appreciate the difference.

Again if you want my supporting details I can supply it to you offline.

Hey, you can't teach a donkey to speak German.
Thats not a fact but just my theory ;)

[Nastro]

Conspiracy Theory: Jamaican politicians and police are deeply involved in criminality and gang activity. They orchestrate much of the criminal enterprises which carry out activities.

That is not a conspiracy .... that is a fact. A conspiracy would be that the Funeral Homes are in on it too to generate more business :D

[Ice]

There are good cops and there are bad cops. Most of these gangs have some form of immunity from the law.

[Xenocrates]

That is not a conspiracy .... that is a fact. A conspiracy would be that the Funeral Homes are in on it too to generate more business :D

- :rotflm: That's a good one! :icon_mrgr

But on a serious note, I have been made to understand that Security Companies in Jamaica are on the payroll. The crimes are orchestrated by their gunman pardies, which are then "thwarted" by these security forces in order to convince clients that their services are necessary. I've been told this by so many different people, that I'm starting to wonder if it's true. I have no proof, so it's still a theory.

Here's another one:

Our Prime Minister is on the Dark Side of the Force... from an orientation perspective... if you get my drift... :eusa_shif

[Gillion]

What ... yu saying or PM likes rusty sherifs badges ?

[Xenocrates]

It would appear so - with the sheriff still attached to the badge even...

[bernie]

It would appear so - with the sheriff still attached to the badge even...
***real scary stuff***:eusa_shif

[ramesh]

Anyone notice the absence of the X-Files movie from American TV? Any theories?

[ramesh]

CNN putting a large 'X' over Chaney's face - A subliminal message?
http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-11-23T010131Z_01_MCC303600_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEDIA-CNN.xml

[ramesh]

Anyone notice the absence of the X-Files movie from American TV? Any theories?No theories? Ok, here's one:

The last time I remember seeing X-Files movie was just before 11th September 2001 (the day the terrorists plane-crashed the World Trade Centre in New York). After that I have never seen it shown on American Television.

Part of the movie dealt with Firemen getting infected with an alien virus. To cover up this fact the firemen were placed in a building and a large bomb exploded to bring the building on top of them. To further cover this up, a phony bomb scare was issued to the FBI on the adjacent building to make it look like the bombing was the work of terrorists.

That's in the movie.

Now on September 11th (or 11th September if you want to use proper English) actual buildings are demolished by terrorists. Could it be that the showing of this movie was stopped to prevent speculation that some highly placed agency of the US may have been responsible to cover something up?

[Gillion]

No theories? Ok, here's one:

The last time I remember seeing X-Files movie was just before 11th September 2001 (the day the terrorists plane-crashed the World Trade Centre in New York). After that I have never seen it shown on American Television.

Part of the movie dealt with Firemen getting infected with an alien virus. To cover up this fact the firemen were placed in a building and a large bomb exploded to bring the building on top of them. To further cover this up, a phony bomb scare was issued to the FBI on the adjacent building to make it look like the bombing was the work of terrorists.

That's in the movie.

Now on September 11th (or 11th September if you want to use proper English) actual buildings are demolished by terrorists. Could it be that the showing of this movie was stopped to prevent speculation that some highly placed agency of the US may have been responsible to cover something up?


YEP !

I remember some entertainment news saying they didn't air that episode because of the sensitivity of the situation at that time.

[Arch_Angel]

Not knowing this was already being discussed, I had posted this link to a flash video. I guess it serves just for entertainment purposes only, since there are better links to other information post before.

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

[easyskanka]

I didn't see anything A-A on the plane business.Saw something about the definitive 9/11 conspiracy thing.

[Bahama Mama]

So who thinks it was a UFO instead?

[Chicokid]

Read this thing somewhere before on CY. I think the argument is whether a plane or a missle struck the pentagon. However, plane remains were found at the pentagon site.

[Jae]

Maybe the plane flew into a black hole!!:icon_lol:

[Arch_Angel]

Read this thing somewhere before on CY. I think the argument is whether a plane or a missle struck the pentagon. However, plane remains were found at the pentagon site.Plane remains? You mean a bolt or a seltbelt buckle? :D

[Xenocrates]

Y'know, it's interesting that mead should post this:


Are you telling me that the photos on that site showing the burned remains of the plane are all fakes?

...and provide no picture evidence. I've seen no photo of the Pentagon crash site with plane wreckage. I'd love to see them - if they exist. It's a pity he's since high-tailed it out of here.

[Nastro]

I get a lot of flack for this topic...but this should hold some of you for a while.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2004/190704greatillusion.htm

[Chicokid]

Just had a thought, if it was really a missile that hit the pentagon and not AA flight 757, how come American Airlines cannot account for the missing 757 :icon_ques

A plane won't disappear into thin air...unless it pass over the Bermuda Triangle :eusa_thin