Bush vs Kerry

[Cocoa]

Speaking of Bush, compared to Kerry I think he's a better choice for the US.


Originally posted by Jacocoabutter....Chrrrps...when electing a President you have a lot of things to consider.


Name one President in modern history that hasn't caused nuff damage ;). Think about it, how much MORE damage is Kerry likely to cause based on his wavering stance on everything and poor economic "muddle".

I guess we should take this into a new Bush vs Kerry discussion if interested :)



What you think about this one here.....? :eusa_snoo

[Cocoa]

I am not saying Chris that no President hasn't already cause damage but I am just saying, look at how much he has cause. And if you could elect someone who would help in the betterment of the country, then why not?

I am not for anyone at this time, I'm just neutral, but as I said above, there are some factors that I consider when thinking about a President.

These are some of the factors I would take into consideration:

1. Is this person good with political and economical issues? How efficient is he?

2. What have this person done in the past that has helped in boosting his reputation?

3. What are the pros and cons in the selection process of both Bush and Kerry?

5. Militant issues? Issues of National Security ?

6. Is this person a strong leader?

7. Does this person display projected positive plans for the future of the country?

8. What is he doing now to secure and assure the country that he/she will be a good delegate for the position?

9. World affairs....what is his views on that and waht direction is he leading towards that?

10. What is his foundation built on if he is choosen to be President?

I must say that I would love to have President Clinton back into office (2hands and feet up), but now we are faced with President Bush and Kerry. Tough decision if you ask me. But the factors above and others indeed I would consider before slashing off any of the candidates.

[Chris]

These are all valid points raised JCB. If I were you I'd compare Bush and Kerry against each of these criteria. Then again, Kerry has no credible track record to compare and you definitely can't take his word for it ;) I dunno, he just seems to be the wrong choice for the US at this (or any) time. He's pro many things that I'm against, unlike Bush who's pro many things that I'm for.

BTW ...
I must say that I would love to have President Clinton back into office (2hands and feet up) ...As a decent young lady I'd be careful making statements like these especially regarding Clinton :icon_lol:

[Chris]

Another thing, what is your take on the swift boat vets scandal? And Kerry's public statements against his fellow soldiers accusing them of committing those war crimes? As a person familiar with the military life I'm sure you'll realise that Kerry will do anything to further his political agenda.

[Cocoa]

As a decent young lady I'd be careful making statements like these especially regarding Clinton Let me attack this first. NO BOSS. I shall not hold up hands and feet like that. ;) LOL But I would definately vote for him if he should run again.


If I were you I'd compare Bush and Kerry against each of these criteria. And so I shall before casting my vote.

[Cocoa]

Another thing, what is your take on the swift boat vets scandal? And Kerry's public statements against his fellow soldiers accusing them of committing those war crimes? As a person familiar with the military life I'm sure you'll realise that Kerry will do anything to further his political agenda.
Well you know I heard a lil thing or too about this. Can you give a lil more details to refresh mymemory?
As for war crimes, anything is possible believe me. I have seen the biggest ranking person do some stuff all because they have the power to. So I won't pull my back off it.

[AngelsKiss]

Bush or Kerry... what a choice the USA has to make. Frankly speaking none of the 2 are qualified for president.

Kerry is not qualified simply because he doesn't seem to know if he is going or coming, granted many leaders have waivered on issues. Even me in my personal life might decided one thing today and change my mind tomorrow. However, unfortunately for Kerry he just seems to be doing too much of it.

As for Bush, I think some people seems to think that simply because Bush do not support some aspect of what is deemed morally wrong means that he is a good president, which in my opinion isn't necessarily so. We need to look at the wider picture. On one hand you can't claim to be against certain societal behaviour, but you have no compunction about lying to start a war and killing thousands of innocent people in the process.

Someone brought up Clinton, and my take is, he is one of the better presidents the USA has seen. As for his screwup with Lewinski, most of us all agree it was wrong, however, even King David was a sinner.

The only stance Bush has going for him, is his so called religion and morality. Remember this is a society that on one hand is trying to force others into accepting some moral behaviour but on the other has rejected religions in the school, among other things.

What I find amazing is that, if God himself gave us the option to either serve him or reject him, who are we to force others to live their lives the way we see it. The way I see it is if what you do does not affect me then it's your life. I will tell you of my believes, encourage you to seek a different way and also pray for you. The rest is up to you and God.

Something else we need to remember, irrespective of how much of a sinful life we lead we can still be redeemed if we so choose. We can cast all the stones we want, at the end of the day, each of us will have to give an account to God for the life we lived, not some one else.

[InkyP1]

Today, my whole outlook on the political scheme can be summed up in one word. Its (sucks)! You are right there is no qualified right now. And with the choices that are given. If you are going to vote your options are limited. As Bush and religion, well that also is a matter of opinion. But today this is my view and I will have to come to some conclusion in November. If and when I decide to vote.

[Cocoa]

Where you at Chris??? You not going to answer my question and comment? ;)


Well you know I heard a lil thing or too about this. Can you give a lil more details to refresh mymemory?
As for war crimes, anything is possible believe me. I have seen the biggest ranking person do some stuff all because they have the power to. So I won't pull my back off it.

[ActorRod]

I coulda swore I posted to this but I can't find it...

I have to vote for Kerry. These past four years with Bush have almost made me ashamed to be American!

If by some wierd chance Bush steals ... that is, wins the election again...I'm moving to Jamaica!!

[Chris]

Where you at Chris??? You not going to answer my question and comment? ;)I'm here lurking in the shadows of the RNC :p.

Regarding the swift boat vets scandal, the short explanation is that Kerry has been parading around town claiming he's the best man for the job (presidnency) because he did 2 tours of duty including Vietnam unlike Bush and Cheney whom he keeps reminding us dodged their military duties. Hmmm ... did Edwards serve in the military? Did he do a tour of duty? oh yeah I forgot ... suing companies could be classed as a tour of duty nowadays LOL.

Anyway, back on the point. So Kerry has this proud military experience but ... after he came home from Vietnam with a flesh wound he began testifying about the war crimes committed by Americans in Vietnam. At that time he was so ashamed of being associated with the US military that he gave back his medals and asked for an early discharge. But did he really give back the medals? Apparently not, because recent news coming out suggests that he didn't return them :eusa_thin. So Kerry has made statements about where he's been during Vietnam and what he say, but facts coming out suggest that some of his claims of where he was eg. in Cambodia is actually false - he wasn't actually there. Kerry's camp rebutted by saying something like ..."when you're at war you don't see street signs telling you where you are" :icon_lol: Kerry also has a team of vets from his old boat campaigning with him. Other vets are also coming out against Kerry basically accusing him of being a traitor and a let down, so he doesn't have the backing of the vets that he once hoped the public thought he had.

When Bush was asked to come out against Kerry for some of the statements he has made, Bush basically said that he won't because Kerry had served his country and that deserved respect.

Who's the real man?

[prodmaster]

If I had the chance mi woulda give John Kerry a chance still! Its funny how the state of Florida is being attacked by the storms in the year of election! :o

[Chris]

If I had the chance mi woulda give John Kerry a chance still! ...So what are your reasons for giving him a chance over Bush?

[AngelsKiss]

LOL...or you can move north of the border Rod:)

[ActorRod]

LOL...or you can move north of the border Rod:)
Too cold, there.