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BlackCryptoKnight
December 5, 2005, 12:08 AM
Are Caribbean men being marginalized?
If so, why?
What are the prospects facing Caribbean men?

easyskanka
December 5, 2005, 01:07 AM
From where I stand BCK it is not only caribbean men who are being marginalized,but black males the world over are being systematically undermined.Negative stereotypes are the order of the day.Of course we are not entirely devoid of blame ourselves,but I really see us in Britain for example as being so undervalued that we often seem to deliberately bypass our fellow blacks to hang on to the skirt tails of another race in order to feel a sense of worth.

It really is very noticeable how we are portrayed in all aspects of everyday life in the uk.Positve role models are in short supply.Even after all the initial joyous displays by whites and blacks in support of the freeing of Nelson Mandela from imprisonment, things turned into a lowkey affair with even a negative portrayal of him in at least one televised documentary that I saw aired on british tv.

Whenever black people might imagine that we have triumphed in a small battle,the war is stoked up to new levels of intensity.And the the worst part is we are often afraid to speak out against injustices meeted out to us because we are afraid we'll be probably be tarred with the brush of now ourselves being labelled racists.We have to conquer this misplaced fear and forge ahead regardless, remembering our creator in our struggles from day to day.

BlackCryptoKnight
December 5, 2005, 06:58 AM
How are we contributing to these negatives mentioned? How do we stop?

easyskanka
December 5, 2005, 08:30 AM
How are we contributing to these negatives mentioned? How do we stop?

The same old story I'm afraid.We often don't give the impression that we truly care about each other. We don't pick up on the fact that others benefit greatly from our insecurities and disharmony.We frighten our own with crimes against each other to the point where people no longer take pride and honour in the race to which they belong. This manifests itself in many cases where if our people have the choice of continuing their race through their own kind or or mixing with another race,they vote with their feet and make a conscious decision to give their children what they consider to be a better chance of getting more from life through a different route than what the black race has to offer.

The days when racism was a blatant and direct act from which we could organize ourselves in order to fight it has gone.We still feel the effects but it is far more difficult to unravel this more subtle and insideous form that has replaced it. The net effect is frustration that is tearing any fabric of a community that some of us are desperately attempting to keep together apart.

If we can be fearless and try to organize ourselves to speak with one concerned voice,then our hopes can be re-kindled to inspire a bright fire to burn on our behalf and also for the benefit of our wider human family.

Purple Queen
December 5, 2005, 09:33 AM
I agree BCK...I believe that fighting against our own race is clearly a definitive sign that we are divided amongst our own.Nowadays the focus is more on keeping others down than on speaking in one voice on the deep-rooted issues that surround racism.The more fearful we are to speak out,is the more we will always seem to be marginalised. Lead the pack BCK...and I am so interested in your views and dying to see what Izemi's views are:)He seems to be highly educated on several issues,so let's keep the fire burning!

BlackCryptoKnight
December 5, 2005, 05:15 PM
Welcome to CY Purple Queen.:p

An example of the challenge facing men in the Caribbean is in the number of male graduates from the University of the West Indies being significantly lower than the number of female graduates. Why is that?

Purple Queen
December 5, 2005, 06:43 PM
Thanks for the welcome BCK.

I could spend more time going into all the various reasons,but here are some of my initial thoughts.

There are more female graduates from the Universities than males due to a lack of fathers / father-figures stepping up to the plate to take on the responsibility of guidance.Boys need good father figures / strong male role models who can be there for the mental side of a boy's development. Don't get me wrong...there are some very good single mothers out there who try their best,but for males,it's important for them to see life through the eyes of a good male role model.If there was alot more focus on this,then our males would be able to give our female students more challenges in the classroom.

Plain and straight,fathers need to realize their importance in playing an active and positive role in their son(s)life,not just financially.

On another hand,from as early as basic school level,females tend to excel more than males. Females,in most cases,tend to settle down and focus on what they have to do.Some males fall prey to the undesirable elements(drugs,etc)for quick money.

The statement made by alot of persons is that there are more females in the population than males. However,there are more males imprisoned than females.

Interesting questions,BCK.

BlackCryptoKnight
December 15, 2005, 06:15 PM
Thanks for the welcome BCK.

I could spend more time going into all the various reasons,but here are some of my initial thoughts.

There are more female graduates from the Universities than males due to a lack of fathers / father-figures stepping up to the plate to take on the responsibility of guidance.Boys need good father figures / strong male role models who can be there for the mental side of a boy's development. Don't get me wrong...there are some very good single mothers out there who try their best,but for males,it's important for them to see life through the eyes of a good male role model.If there was alot more focus on this,then our males would be able to give our female students more challenges in the classroom.

Plain and straight,fathers need to realize their importance in playing an active and positive role in their son(s)life,not just financially.

On another hand,from as early as basic school level,females tend to excel more than males. Females,in most cases,tend to settle down and focus on what they have to do.Some males fall prey to the undesirable elements(drugs,etc)for quick money.

The statement made by alot of persons is that there are more females in the population than males. However,there are more males imprisoned than females.

Interesting questions,BCK.


Why aren't the fathers there?

Why are the women supposedly outperforming men academically?

Gillion
December 15, 2005, 08:02 PM
Why aren't the fathers there?


http://thetalkingdrum.com/wil.html



Why are the women supposedly outperforming men academically?

Read the above and interplotate.