??Quarantine persons with STDs??

[Temptress]

During the TB (Tuberculosis) outbreak, individuals who were infected with TB were quarantined in concentration camps - taken away from society because they had a deadly virus. Do you think that the government should take the same approach towards individuals who have incurable STD’s :icon_ques

[Purple Queen]

During the TB (Tuberculosis) outbreak, individuals who were infected with TB were quarantined in concentration camps - taken away from society because they had a deadly virus. Do you think that the government should take the same approach towards individuals who have STD’s :icon_ques

Hi Temptress

I don't think the govt.should take the same stance re STDs.

TB is totally different...quarantine is necessary with TB since just by breathing in the air around someone with TB can spread it.
TB doesn't carry steroetypes like STDs do,and STDs cover a wide range of sexually transmitted diseases...some mild,etc...but all in all...the most extreme (HIV/AIDS) is not even transmitted by being around someone with the disease.Are you speaking specifically about AIDS or any and every STD? Because the govt.would have to quarantine a huge number of the population:eusa_thin

[nuhsenutten]

preventing the spread of std's comes down to one's own common sense ......protecting urself.......if each person does this the result will b an eventual decrease or eradication of the disease in the not too distant future

as purple queen said these diseases arent spread by just being around persons with them ......so to quarantine these ppl would cruel

[Temptress]

So you are saying that even though TB can be cured it was ok to quarantine those who had the virus but its wrong to quarantine those with incurable STDs.

What do you do about those who are deliberately going out and infecting people with deadly STDs?? Are you saying that for as long as we are having sex even those who are married should at all times use condoms because married individuals contribute greatly to increase in the STD statistics.
What about the new strain of HIV totally untreatable, those who get it can be dead within 4 months, what do we do about them??

[tiffany]

I believe that the only way that people with icurable STD's would need to be quarantined is if God Forbid, the std mutates and becomes airborne.

[nuhsenutten]

no u r misunderstanding the pointim trying to make......TB is a highly contagious disease so if u come in close contact with an infected person or with personal items from someone who is infected u could also become infected.....so quarantining persons with TB is good untill the spread is controlled or u have cured the affected persons......however with std's on the other hand they are not contagious unless you engage in sexuall realtions with an infected person .....or u exchange bodily fluids.

SO even if we were to quarantine all the affected individuals out there with std's we would have to test the entire population of the country ...then as you said there are those who just want to spread the disease more ...they will not want to b tested ..........so that posses another problem

couples may contribute to the spread of std's but agian its up to ur common sense ...are u willing to sacrifice ur health or life for a roll in the hay with some one ...then again if two p[pl get married they should abide or respect the vows wich they have taken and not engage in extramarital affairs

it all boils down to protecting urself ....no one but u can do that ...so if we all protect our selves we dont have nething to worry about

[tiffany]

with std's on the other hand they are not contagious unless you engage in sexuall realtions with an infected person .....or u exchange bodily fluids.


as i said, unless they mutate and become aireborne, then we don't have to quarantine anybody.

[Purple Queen]

TB is an airborne disease...STDs = Sexually transmitted.

Married or not,each individual is responsible for the choices he/she makes.Get tested regularly for the entire panel of STDs tests available;it shouldn't be seen as a trust issue in the marriage...it's just taking charge of your life.

If someone deliberately transmits STDs(esp.HIV) by force (rape) then such an individual should be not only charged with rape,but also,attempted murder.

[tiffany]

be seen as a trust issue in the marriage...it's just taking charge of your life.

If someone deliberately transmits STDs(esp.HIV) by force (rape) then such an individual should be not only charged with rape,but also,attempted murder.
That isn't just attempted murder, that is murder, it just takes loger for the individual to die.

[Temptress]

Its a very scarey world we're living in, People just be on your P's and Q's at all times because you never know what the person beside you has...........

[Izemi-Clem]

Hail

Cuba has a policy where they register and quarantine every person diagnosed the AIDS, HIV virus, man woman and child.
They are housed in a large complex with hospitals and other support amenities, they are even allowed visits by their families and friends.

This is seen by the western world as a blatant violation of the persons human rights, but regardless I know it was a fact that Cuba had the lowest rate of infection.
The Cuban government argument is that treatment of the disease is costly and their eceonomy cannot support this, hence the use of such extreme measures to protect their citizens.
However I am not certain about the current statistics as Cuba opens up herself to more tourism and whatever ills that comes along with it.

Personally I agree with thier policy, how else do we protect our citizens if some among ourselves, through ignorance or otherwise malicious reasons seek to do harm to others?

Izemi-Clem

[nuhsenutten]

Izemi .......mi hear wha u saying still but say suppose u some how caught the disease ....mi just sayin

would u as a member of society want to b taken and put in a "compund" just because u have a disease...........as u said cuba is opening its doors to tourism....along with tourism comes prostitution.......unfortunatly not all prostitutes male or female protect them selves and they can easily jeaprodize the ground the cuban govornment gained in eradicating the disease from that country .........so whatever is done it will all come back down to the choices that individuals take to protect or not to protect themselves

[Manu]

I don't believe they should be quarantined. As in the case of TB...I believe it was contagious because it was an airborne bacterium and could be transmitted by inhalation so because of it's nature, it was more logical to quarantine people with it. As in the case of A.I.D.S., it is at the discretion of those infected. Besides, the symptoms vary and can only be determined by blood test. Unless there is a massive worldwide blood test, quarantining people with the virus will cause an adverse effect on the rest of society because people would be so scared to get tested, you'd know about fewer cases. Ofcourse this just my opinion and rather hypothetical, it still a plausible suggestion.

I think people are vain. They should use marketing campaigns that target people's insecurities. Most people don't want to die, but they'll smoke a pack of cigarettes everyday, eventhough they know about the risk of lung cancer. Link smoking to impotence or peeling of the skin and you'll see a drastic reduction in smoking. Just the same, tell people that they'll not only die, tell them that their reproductive extremities may fall off or cave in. That their faces will peel. That they'll become blind and you'll see how many person would take the time and money to find a condom and practice safe sex!

[acidblade]

Kill Dem, why keep them alive? dem ago dead anyway

[Temptress]

You see everybody taking this whole airborn thing to the extreme. The only way to control something is to restrain it, because they restrained people with TB they were able to stop the desease from mutating and having different strains which would be even harder to treat let a lone cure. How are we going to control the spread of STDs if there are people running wild infecting people. No, no one wants to be put in an STD institution but it is for the greater good of the world.

[nuhsenutten]

Kill Dem, why keep them alive? dem ago dead anyway
arent u going to die some time too?....so y not kill u too ?


so ur solution to the whole issue is to stop having sex? do u even kno if u r infected right this minute ?......it could b possible u dont kno so who would lock up who ....and i kno that if that happens the ppl infected arent going to take it lying down :eusa_shif .

[acidblade]

arent u going to die some time too?....so y not kill u too ?
good question :eusa_thin

Mi Tek It Back
Kill Dem, why keep them alive? dem ago dead anyway

[Temptress]

So what you are saying is that as long as the disease is not airborne people should not be quarantined. The government was justified in their decision to quarantine those with TB but it is cruel and malicious if they do the same to persons who have STDs??

[nuhsenutten]

in a way yes thats what im saying.....
because if beeze blow cross jamaica 2 time all of us could be sick......and eventually die of TB..unlike std's.... u choose not to protect urself and u catch it how does that become the govornments problem?...........it is YOU who failed to take action to protect urself hence YOU should b able to live with that decision...........

the spread can b contained if others protect themselves............prevention ppl as there is no cure

[Temptress]

I don't believe they should be quarantined. As in the case of TB...I believe it was contagious because it was an airborne bacterium and could be transmitted by inhalation so because of it's nature, it was more logical to quarantine people with it. As in the case of A.I.D.S., it is at the discretion of those infected. Besides, the symptoms vary and can only be determined by blood test. Unless there is a massive worldwide blood test, quarantining people with the virus will cause an adverse effect on the rest of society because people would be so scared to get tested, you'd know about fewer cases. Ofcourse this just my opinion and rather hypothetical, it still a plausible suggestion.

I think people are vain. They should use marketing campaigns that target people's insecurities. Most people don't want to die, but they'll smoke a pack of cigarettes everyday, eventhough they know about the risk of lung cancer. Link smoking to impotence or peeling of the skin and you'll see a drastic reduction in smoking. Just the same, tell people that they'll not only die, tell them that their reproductive extremities may fall off or cave in. That their faces will peel. That they'll become blind and you'll see how many person would take the time and money to find a condom and practice safe sex!

People have known for years that if you smoke chances are you will get lung cancer yet tobacco is a billion dollar industry. Therefore what your are saying in reality is not very effective. Many people know about STDs, people are aware however every year the number of those affected (excluding those born with them) continue to be on the rise.

[nuhsenutten]

the fact about smoking is that most of those who smoke r addicted and dont have the will power to quit...........so the two dont make a very good comparisson

[Temptress]

in a way yes thats what im saying.....
because if beeze blow cross jamaica 2 time all of us could be sick......and eventually die of TB..unlike std's.... u choose not to protect urself and u catch it how does that become the govornments problem?...........it is YOU who failed to take action to protect urself hence YOU should b able to live with that decision...........

the spread can b contained if others protect themselves............prevention ppl as there is no cure

So every single time you have sex YOU protect yourself and for as long as you live EVERYTIME you have sex YOU WILL BE WEARING A CONDOM

[nuhsenutten]

if i dont trust the woman im having sex with yes .............if it comes down to that .....i will b taking my life into my hands if i want to have a child ...and i hope i can trust my partner enough to ensure that we are both safe

[Temptress]

if i dont trust the woman im having sex with yes .............if it comes down to that .....i will b taking my life into my hands if i want to have a child ...and i hope i can trust my partner enough to ensure that we are both safe

Still don't answer the question if it comes down it it is not an answer the point is that its around us, you don't know with certainty what or who your girl is doing so you can blindly get HIV and not know then cheat on your girl and pass it on to someoone else. Condoms can't held as this great force that will protect us from STDs because they can break.

[Purple Queen]

Still don't answer the question if it comes down it it is not an answer the point is that its around us, you don't know with certainty what or who your girl is doing so you can blindly get HIV and not know then cheat on your girl and pass it on to someoone else. Condoms can't held as this great force that will protect us from STDs because they can break.

Surely condoms are not a great force;but that is the best way these days to be safe.It is waaay cheaper rather than people using their energies spying,prying,fretting etc...about what the other one's doing.

"Be responsible,aware and conscious about the decisions/choices we make"..No matter how blindly someone gets HIV,it all boils down to being aware of yourself...no matter how much trust there is between partners. One of them can get an injection from a potentially infected needle...what do you do in such a case??
Once there's honesty and good communication plus respect,they should both go and do the necessary tests,etc...and even if they have to both wear condoms for 1 full yr.before knowing conclusively that he/she is not infected,then so be it.

:o Herpes is an STD and it is treatable but not curable.
If a blister is not dried and contact is made with the individual even by shaking hands(where the blister is)it can be transmitted.So yes,in this case,condoms won't help...because the hand with the blister can transmit the virus to other organs,including genitals and there you now have a case of "innocent contraction of Genital Herpes"....sad,but very true.

This is to say: we can try everything as much as possible...and as long as we all know we are being aware and responsible in our choices,what is to be will be...we just cannot stay locked up in our homes;we have to interact with people.

[Manu]

Ok...you guys took my smoking analogy too literal. I'm saying that people don't care whether they live or not because they have to die sometime so lung cancer is no big deal. I'm saying that those who market against smoking should use more vain tactics as fore-mentioned. Death doesn't scare them but the way they live their lives does strike a hard note. Hence they should say that STD destroy your privates...this dwindle and disappear or something and maybe people would take this thing more seriously.

[tiffany]

Ok...you guys took my smoking analogy too literal. I'm saying that people don't care whether they live or not because they have to die sometime so lung cancer is no big deal. I'm saying that those who market against smoking should use more vain tactics as fore-mentioned. Death doesn't scare them but the way they live their lives does strike a hard note. Hence they should say that STD destroy your privates...this dwindle and disappear or something and maybe people would take this thing more seriously.
yeah, like, they turn green, rot and fall off

[Temptress]

Yeah right, I’m sure most of us at some point in time have seen the pics and posters depicting the symptoms of STDs, however I’m certain that when individuals have sex these blunt sickening images are the furthest things from everyone’s mind when they are enjoying their moment of passion with or without a condom.

[nuhsenutten]

not my mind ...thats why u strap up.........no chances when it comes to my life ...i only get one shot

[Bahama Mama]

During the TB (Tuberculosis) outbreak, individuals who were infected with TB were quarantined in concentration camps - taken away from society because they had a deadly virus. Do you think that the government should take the same approach towards individuals who have incurable STD’s :icon_ques


I dont think that approach would be ethical. STD's like HIV, Gonorrhea, and Herpes are infectious but they are not contagious. Therefore one cannot transmit such diseases through casual every day type of contact eg. shaking hands, sitting next to someone on a bus etc. Quarantines are generally applicable and an effective measure for contagious diseases i.e those that can be transmitted by casual contact, like TB, chicken pox and SARS. There is no direct danger from an individual that has an STD, only if one makes intimate contact with that individual i.e kissing or intercourse.

[Purple Queen]

That's right BM...TB is an airborne disease(if someone breathes in the same air that a person with TB is around...whether they cough or not) ,wheras STDs are contracted via physical contact...not all STDs are contracted by itimate exchange of body fluids though,for example,some cases of Herpes...

Herpes is an STD and it is treatable but not curable.
If a blister is not dried and contact is made with the individual even by shaking hands(where the blister is)it can be transmitted.So yes,in this case,condoms won't help...because the hand with the blister can transmit the virus to other organs,including genitals and there you now have a case of "innocent contraction of Genital Herpes"....sad,but very true.

This is to say: we can try everything as much as possible...and as long as we all know we are being aware and responsible in our choices,what is to be will be...we just cannot stay locked up in our homes;we have to interact with people.