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nuhsenutten
January 5, 2006, 01:32 PM
i dont know if this is limited to only jamaicans but what exactly does this term mean?

Drew
January 5, 2006, 01:35 PM
LMAO.:rofl:

...itis means inflamation of something. ****** = black folks. put 2 and 2 together.

Xenocrates
January 5, 2006, 01:38 PM
I doubt that. The word is commonly used to refer to a state of sleepy sluggishness which is a result of ingesting too much carbohydrates in a meal - usually at lunch.

bernie
January 5, 2006, 01:41 PM
yeah...Xeno is correct:D

Drew
January 5, 2006, 01:46 PM
really, ok then. :eusa_wall the word just sounds so funny though. :)

ramesh
January 5, 2006, 02:09 PM
I would tell you what it is, but I'm actually feeling quite sleepy.....guess I had too much to eat for lunch.......

Brownsugar
January 5, 2006, 02:16 PM
I would tell you what it is, but I'm actually feeling quite sleepy.....guess I had too much to eat for lunch.......

:hungry: Amm...yuh might just be a nice example of the word! :rolleyes:

Chicokid
January 5, 2006, 02:18 PM
:hungry: Amm...yuh might just be a nice example of the word! :rolleyes:

I agree with that :icon_lol:

Izemi-Clem
January 5, 2006, 02:21 PM
Hail

Return to the days of the plantation my friends and you will find the origins of this symptom of slavery.

Slaves ate their major meal at the end of the day after slaving away for "backra", the meal heavily laden with ground provisions and other "slave food" brought to the island for such purpose (ackee, breadfruit, yam etc.) plus the prized "salt ting" if backra was so gracious.

Tired and fully sated, a comfort feeling was brought on, developing a trained response of sleeping whenever these conditions were met, giving rise to the this derogatory term. It has been suggested to me that this condition has been passed on to future generations, now I'm no Paplov but I'm certain it has something to do with the bodys' needing maximum energy to break down the heavy carbs in the digestion process, so the body is induced into a state of minimum exertion (sleep) to reserve the energy need for the synthesis of the food .

Izemi-Clem

nuhsenutten
January 5, 2006, 03:08 PM
izemi thx for the info......oh and the history lesson too!

Bahama Mama
January 6, 2006, 12:52 PM
Yeah I always wondered about that term. I figured that people were simply not pronouncing it correctly. There has to be some official medical term for the sluggishness experienced after eating a big meal.

jerry
January 6, 2006, 07:24 PM
I always wondered where this term came from.

Virus
January 7, 2006, 12:53 AM
I'm one of those who suffer fro...hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh :icon_eek:

Happens to me everrrryyday at work.................. http://img172.echo.cx/img172/1552/sc0656ah.gif

Brownsugar
January 7, 2006, 03:07 AM
I'm one of those who suffer fro...hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh :icon_eek:

Happens to me everrrryyday at work.................. http://img172.echo.cx/img172/1552/sc0656ah.gif

Hope yuh doh do thing too important nuh! :eusa_thin Like ah forklifter, ah pilot, ah dancer(will wuk fuh :hungry: food and mek sure and come equip with ah sign "CAUTION: WILL FALL:snoring: ASLEEP ON JOB"):eusa_shif .....what ah thing

tiffany
January 7, 2006, 08:05 PM
But why you gotta type in yellow though?

Leina
January 7, 2006, 09:14 PM
But why you gotta type in yellow though?
Because that is like the fine print so you are supposed to over look it, @ Brown Sugar you said you will work for food? Then give me a link.

Brownsugar
January 8, 2006, 11:07 AM
Because that is like the fine print so you are supposed to over look it, @ Brown Sugar you said you will work for food? Then give me a link.
:rotflm:
I see, maybe I shouldn't have done that:jestera: ! Never said I will work for food:eusa_naug But if uno highlight the sentence uno can see:cool:

Cocoa
January 8, 2006, 03:34 PM
******istist is that act when you done eat and you want to sleep.

Twinkie
January 9, 2006, 02:00 PM
I would tell you what it is, but I'm actually feeling quite sleepy.....guess I had too much to eat for lunch.......
Ramesh in your case wouldn't it be "COOLIE-ITIS"??:icon_eek:

nuhsenutten
January 9, 2006, 02:26 PM
lol @ twinkie........:dwl:

bernie
January 9, 2006, 02:59 PM
i think we better move this thread to the funny bone
where is babylon when you need him?:eusa_shif

Twinkie
January 9, 2006, 03:22 PM
i think we better move this thread to the funny bone
where is babylon when you need him?:eusa_shif
Eeeh A_A lang time we nuh see yuh eenuh!!:dwl:

Manu
January 10, 2006, 08:40 AM
It's a term coined from slavery days. When the slaves used to work in the sugar fields...they usually have cane for lunch. Now you should knoiw that the body has to work over time to digest and process carbohydrates. Sugar is a carbohydrate. Plus all the blood rushes to your stomach after eating. That is why it is not wise to go for a swim after eating. When all the blood rushes to your stomach...that's less for everywhere else. Less blood = less oxygen = less energy since we need oxygen for aerobic respiration which produces energy. Now in the case of the slaves, after eating sugar, all they wanted to do was sleep....thus the coined term ******ITIS!!!!


I was wondering why NUHSEHNUTTEN had to go through so much trouble to say N-I-G-G-E-R-I-T-I-S. I didn't see Izemi's response I just answered so pardon the repetitiveness.

Xenocrates
January 13, 2006, 03:44 PM
There has to be some official medical term for the sluggishness experienced after eating a big meal.

- It takes a great deal of energy to digest a large meal. When your stomach is full, blood is directed away from other organ systems, including your nervous system. The result? You will feel the need to snooze after any big meal, particularly if it is high in fats and carbohydrates.

Twinkie
January 13, 2006, 03:54 PM
- It takes a great deal of energy to digest a large meal. When your stomach is full, blood is directed away from other organ systems, including your nervous system. The result? You will feel the need to snooze after any big meal, particularly if it is high in fats and carbohydrates.
:eusa_snoo

A no dat de man jus seh?? :eusa_snoo

Bahama Mama
January 13, 2006, 10:40 PM
There has to be some official medical term for the sluggishness experienced after eating a big meal.

It is called temporary Postprandial 'after a meal' Hypoglycemia 'decrease in blood glucose' (in this case to the brain).

Manu
January 14, 2006, 11:56 AM
Hypoglycemia of the brain but Hyper-glycemia of the blood???

Bahama Mama
January 14, 2006, 12:22 PM
Hypoglycemia of the brain but Hyper-glycemia of the blood???

Yeah kinda makes no sense, but that was the closest term I found. It wouldnt be a decrease systemically of blood glucose, just a shift or shunting of it. Now whats the term for that :eusa_thin

Manu
January 14, 2006, 12:35 PM
I didn't think it was really sugar content of the brain. Myabe I need to read more. I thought that it was just less blood...thus less oxygen. But less blood to the brain would also mean less solutes...thus less sugar so it kinda makes sense from an abstract point of view now that I think about it.

Bahama Mama
January 14, 2006, 12:42 PM
I didn't think it was really sugar content of the brain. Myabe I need to read more. I thought that it was just less blood...thus less oxygen. But less blood to the brain would also mean less solutes...thus less sugar so it kinda makes sense from an abstract point of view now that I think about it.


Glucose is the only fuel that the brain can utilize, and the only way glucose can enter the brain is though the blood brain barrier, so it kinda adds up like you said.

Izemi-Clem
January 14, 2006, 12:56 PM
Hail

:icon_arro BM, Manu

It deosn't follow, Hypoglycemia is a a lowering in blood glucose leves, not a decrease in the amount blood going to the brain (we would pass out).
It would therefore have to be the result of some gland/organ that releases the required enzymes to lower the level of glucose in the blood (by preventing the amount of glucose being produced) this lower glucose blood is going not only to the brain but the rest of the body; inducing the body into this sluggish state of minimun exertion with the feeling of one needing to sleep.

Izemi-Clem

Manu
January 14, 2006, 01:11 PM
Glycemia = sugar levels (most cases blood). Hypo = low. Hyper = high. As for the hypoglycemia, BM referred to that of the cells in the brain. Now the cells get their suppy from blood. So if all the blood rushes to the stomach, then their will be less available to fulfil the needs of the brain cells so this state of minimum exertion brought on hence the sleepiness. Blood is hyperglycemic but the cells in the brain are hypoglycemic...you follow? Not perfect but they do correlate.

Bahama Mama
January 14, 2006, 01:38 PM
Hail

:icon_arro BM, Manu

It deosn't follow, Hypoglycemia is a a lowering in blood glucose leves, not a decrease in the amount blood going to the brain (we would pass out).

That was established already. I am thinking the term Hypovolemia would be more appropriate. That can be caused by localized instead of systemic effects of adrenaline (its a vasoconstrictor), leading to decrease in blood volume to the brain.


It would therefore have to be the result of some gland/organ that releases the required enzymes to lower the level of glucose in the blood (by preventing the amount of glucose being produced) this lower glucose blood is going not only to the brain but the rest of the body; inducing the body into this sluggish state of minimun exertion with the feeling of one needing to sleep.

Izemi-Clem

An over production of insulin from the pancreas, that removes glucose from the blood at an abnormal rate. Thats plausible, but what would cause an overproduction of insulin? Pancreatic tumour, over active Beta cells (constant signalling)

Manu
January 14, 2006, 11:22 PM
Teach them BM.....:eusa_clap

Izemi-Clem
January 14, 2006, 11:39 PM
Hail

:icon_arro Manu, BM

Let’s follow this by simple deduction; eating a meal laden with heavy carbohydrates will lead to:

1. The loads of heavy carbohydrates will be broken down to simple sugars, starting with amylase from the mouth.

2. Which will then be further broken down to glucose somewhere between the small and large intestine.

3. The brain is then alerted to the large amount of sugar levels in the blood due to the imbalance of the hypo and hyperglycemia between the brain cells and the blood.

4. The brain then releases an enzyme which triggers the pancreas to increase insulin production.

5. Glucose is then converted to glycol which is then converted to fat and then stored by the body as reserves for energy.

So therefore it is not an overproduction but a regulation by the brain to maintain the delicate chemical balances that keep the human machine ticking.

Make sense?
I’ve yet to get an opinion from any of the medical practitioners I know; it may be possible that they have not yet given this condition a medical term.
Still very interested to hear what you come up with.

Izemi-Clem

Bahama Mama
January 15, 2006, 09:29 AM
Hail

:icon_arro Manu, BM

Let’s follow this by simple deduction; eating a meal laden with heavy carbohydrates will lead to:

1. The loads of heavy carbohydrates will be broken down to simple sugars, starting with amylase from the mouth.

2. Which will then be further broken down to glucose somewhere between the small and large intestine.
3. The brain is then alerted to the large amount of sugar levels in the blood due to the imbalance of the hypo and hyperglycemia between the brain cells and the blood.

4. The brain then releases an enzyme which triggers the pancreas to increase insulin production.

5. Glucose is then converted to glycol which is then converted to fat and then stored by the body as reserves for energy.

So therefore it is not an overproduction but a regulation by the brain to maintain the delicate chemical balances that keep the human machine ticking.

Make sense?
I’ve yet to get an opinion from any of the medical practitioners I know; it may be possible that they have not yet given this condition a medical term.
Still very interested to hear what you come up with.

Izemi-Clem


This would make for a good research paper.

The sluggishness after the ingestion of a CHO rich meal, is definately some response mechanism to utilize the body's energy reserves where it is most needed at that time i.e. the Gastrointestinal Tract. However I find it perplexing that the brains energy supply would need to be comprimised (i.e. producing the sluggishness), particularly since the body is accquiring more glucose at that time, on top of the energy reserves already present in the liver, muscle and subcutaneous tissues to provide a constant energy supply to the brain. As well their glucose storage capabilities in the form of glycogen and lipid (fat) respectively should be effective enough (barring diabetes) to store excess glucose that may result in the blood to prevent a 'systemic shock' due to excess glucose. There should be a fine tune balance between energy storage and energy production in these organs.

But whether it is a regulatory mechanism, or as I had suggested an overproduction of some chemical i.e hormone, I think we all are still missing some critical piece of the puzzle.

Purple Queen
January 15, 2006, 11:03 AM
It is called temporary Postprandial 'after a meal' Hypoglycemia 'decrease in blood glucose' (in this case to the brain).

:icon_arro BM:
It is not Postprandial Hypoglycemia:eusa_naug ...in fact it is postprandial HYPERGLYCEMIA.

There is not a decrease in blood glucose to the brain as you stated.There is an INCREASE in blood glucose levels in the blood in general.The brain picks up the signal and responds to correct/modify the situation by sending signals to the stomach for the enzymes to work on the food.Remember,digestion takes 6 hours...******itis doesn't last for 6 hours...it's really only there for a short period during the initial stages after a meal is consumed,because more activity is taking place in the stomach,whilst the brain (CNS)is less active.Less activity=resting of the system.

******itis,based on my knowledge and info from other medical practitioners indicate that what is called ******itis in the caribbean actually originated from the Spanish people. Did you know that in places like Mexico,it is customary to have a "siesta" after a meal? A siesta is what they call a nap/snooze.

The term ******itis was just the term given to stereotype caribbean people as being lazy,slouchy,etc,after eating a meal.

Every race has what is called ******itis...but the stereotype was placed on caribeean people of course by slave masters.
It makes sense right? White race,etc have the same body systems as black people so they have the same activities taking place as we do.

acidblade
January 15, 2006, 11:17 AM
Teach them PQ :eusa_clap

Izemi-Clem
January 15, 2006, 01:07 PM
Hail

:icon_arro Purple Queen

Great post, it is interesting how people would highlight a condition that is common among everyone (starting with themselves) and use it to highlight a negative difference between the races to promote the idea of their assumed racial superiority.

It all boils down to racism, I propose we stop using this term and refer to it as Spanish- itis :icon_idea

Izemi-Clem

Purple Queen
January 15, 2006, 02:05 PM
It all boils down to racism, I propose we stop using this term and refer to it as Spanish- itis :icon_idea

Izemi-Clem

I couldn't agree more...Spanish-itis...or to confuse the Spanish,maybe we should remove the hyphen;afterall..there's none in ******itis:icon_lol:
Seriously though,why should we not refer to it as spanish-itis(without the hyphen)? Many things are named because of their origin,and this should be no different:icon_excl The pronounciation should be interesting:icon_lol:

Bahama Mama
January 15, 2006, 06:28 PM
:icon_arro BM:
It is not Postprandial Hypoglycemia:eusa_naug ...in fact it is postprandial HYPERGLYCEMIA.




It was already established earlier that 'Hypoglycemia' was probably not the correct term to utilize for the condition. But I doubt that 'Hyperglycemia' is a correct term to utilize here either, because they both refer to systemic alterations in blood glucose, when the core interest of this biological mystery is what is going on in the brain. There has to be a more localized process going on in the CNS that aids in producing the sluggish after meal effect. That localized effect may rest among specific neural pathways in the brain.

Purple Queen
January 16, 2006, 08:17 AM
But I doubt that 'Hyperglycemia' is a correct term to utilize here either, because they both refer to systemic alterations in blood glucose, when the core interest of this biological mystery is what is going on in the brain. There has to be a more localized process going on in the CNS that aids in producing the sluggish after meal effect. That localized effect may rest among specific neural pathways in the brain.


There is no doubt about the hyperglycemia.The fact is blood is circulated throughout the entire body.The heart is the organ that pumps blood to various organs in the body.Isn't there something that causes the heart to pump the blood? You mentioned neural pathways = nervous system. The brain is where the CNS(central nervous system)is,and it's from there that the nerves send and receive messages;in this case between the stomach and the CNS.

The localization in the brain regarding NIG...itis would therefore be in the CNS.This is why there is sluggish behaviour...because the CNS as I explained before would be less active since the main focus is to regulate the blood glucose levels.
Is it the name of the specific nerve/neural pathway from the CNS that you want to know?

Postprandial Hyperglycemia is not doubtful as being the correct term in my opinion;I have confirmed this with several other medical professionals.

If you separate HYPERGLYCEMIA from POSTPRANDIAL that is when you take away the localization of the actual process/activities in the organs involved.This should NEVER be done;that is why instead of just saying HYPERGLYCEMIA we put POSTPRANDIAL before it. The two words together basically means "increased blood glucose levels after meal".

Let me give 2 examples:
-A stroke is caused by a form of hypertension

-A person can have Hypertension in the eye

I would really like to hear what you think.
Makes sense?

Bahama Mama
January 16, 2006, 08:30 AM
I am going to consult some scientific journals in my spare time, as well as some professors whose research is centered around nutritional processes in humans. When I googled the term 'Post Prandial hyperglycemia', all I got was a prolonged increase in blood glucose after the ingestion of a meal and its risk factor to developing diabetes, which makes alot of sense. However it doesnt at all explain what is going on in the CNS and that is what I am interested in finding out.

Purple Queen
January 16, 2006, 08:39 AM
Ok,well other than your professors,you could try webMD and ask the specific question. You have to be more specific....Like I asked previously, is it the specific name of the neural pathway / nerves that you need?

Bahama Mama
January 16, 2006, 08:52 AM
Ok,well other than your professors,you could try webMD and ask the specific question. You have to be more specific....Like I asked previously, is it the specific name of the neural pathway / nerves that you need?

Yes I want to know what specific role the CNS is playing, whether that be neuronal pathways, hypothalamic hormones, etc, etc. I am confident a more condensed and localized explanation of 'Post meal Sluggishness' can be garnered. Post Prandial Hyperglycemia to me is a rather 'blanket' term from which alot of conditions arise. I am hoping someone is conducting research on this condition, because the answers come from the efforts of research, and that is what I would prefer to utilize as my primary source of information, rather than MD's, many of whom are not engaged in research.

I fear that since this condition(******itis) is not considered serious in the general population, and because of the racial attachment, not much attention has been given to it in the scientific world.

Quincy
January 16, 2006, 05:38 PM
Lawd di hole heap a big words...just kidding at lease I am learning something new as per this hole thing as we all have it as u eat and den this level of laziness take u...but what I can never get is why it happens to some people and not all is it also a mind thing?

Izemi-Clem
January 16, 2006, 11:44 PM
Hail

Quincy I would like to believe that this is indeed a condition of the mind, taking nothing away from PQ and BH's medical classification, after defining the medical terminology, the process of trying to localise it might just be an overkill.

The body's diegestion process is controlled by reflexes in the autonomic nervous system which on instinct reacts to any changes of any concentrations in the blood. Like Pavlov's dog which was trained to salvitate at the sound of a bell so have we been trained to sleep in response to eating a heavy meal.
Even today in many nurserys you will find nap-time preceeded by sleep time, the mechanisms of the body's reaction makes it inducive for us to sleep, so we have formalised it. With respect to Mexico and Spain there is siesta and in the nurserys it is nap-time, but in the case of our ancestors on the plantation in slavery days, it was the only thing left to do.

Izemi-Clem

pogi_2nr
January 25, 2006, 01:01 PM
'Post meal Sluggishness'lol, lets just call it ethnic fatigue.

Quincy
January 25, 2006, 10:57 PM
also to add on this topic...as you said earlier about the whole nap time after a heavy meal not quite sure how true it is but (but by word from someone I know in mexico there is this thing call siesta{if that is how it spell:)} where they actually get and hour after to lunch to sleep can't say it is true or not but I wouldn't want to imagine a society that will actually shut down operations after lunch to just to sleep.

Purple Queen
January 29, 2006, 07:23 PM
Yes Quincy...siesta,as you said:correct spelling.It's true...I mentioned it in one of my posts on the topic. I'd imagine not everyone in Mexico would have lunch at the same time,so maybe some go at say 12 and others at 1 or 2 o'clock.

Quincy
January 30, 2006, 08:28 AM
well never quite a think down that road but you are right (mi chupid bad:eusa_wall ) well then we can see that we are not the cause of this thing then it should be mexicanritis(:rofl: :rotflm: ) anyways on the serious side I still don't see it as something that will affect everybody cause I know people that we eat a horse for lunch and go back to what they are doing without any form of sleep in there system and then you have those that will eat a single a cracker and dem a dead with sleep so is just the mentality that is behind it.

nuhsenutten
January 30, 2006, 08:39 AM
mexicanritis(:rofl: :rotflm: )

mine u cuss bad word man :dwl:

easyskanka
January 30, 2006, 05:49 PM
One of the most stimulating threads to read. I'm amazed how different things are between the youth of the US and those of the Caribbean. Or perhaps..'peoples' would be more accurate. There is difference with Britain too, although this is more understandable.


I mean you Carib people who are weened on a diet of US television and culture seem afraid to say the word negroe-itis. I find that quite fascinating. I do completely understand why it is found hard to mention, but I would take the opposite route. When you know a word such as the n,itis one originated from insulting origins, it can be made impotent by those it was meant to cause offence to, by using it in a carefree way. This causes perplexity on the part of those who wanted to see us in a defeatest posture and frame of mind.

Maybe you guys can have a discussion on racial profile in the not to distant future, Im sure it would make an interesting discussion as much as this thread was. BTW the reason why I did not say it as much as I would have liked to, is because I now know all to well how sensitive and how quickly many Carib Yard people are at taking offence where none was ever intended.

Perhaps there is a direct corollary between the high crime rate in JA for example and people's rapid propensity to get hot under the proverbial collar. Especially by a black outsider...maybe?

When I read stuff like this I have to wonder why we are where we are at. And the answer lies with ourselves. The brightest ones amongst us usually move on to pastures new that does not benefit our own people. Some of us when we achieve what we have set out to accomplish, then think,quite literally in some cases that we are too good [highly educated] to hang with our own. I'm generalizing of course and there is always the exceptions to the rule.

Africa, the Caribbean and anywhere black people are concentrated ends up the same. Those who make it out of the barrel often put the lid back on it and walk away,and sometimes only come back to the barrel to taunt those left inside. In these matters I have to say I have a similar outlook to Izemi-Clem...That attitude that feels compelled to put your own people first and not to feel ashamed of doing so.

Apologies to nuhsehnutten for taking his ******itis thread way off track, there I finally came out and said it...u can sue me if u like:D Don't take this to seriously y'all, it was not meant that way...honest guv.

Manu
January 30, 2006, 07:34 PM
We aren't ones who aren't using it. The word negro (colloquial) is censored. I saw two movies recently. Million Dollar Baby....where the white retard said he had nothing against "nig gers". He said it to Morgan Freeman. For some reason it offended me. Second movie was Pulp Fiction. Quentin Tarantino's character said the word repeatedly to Samuel L. Jackson's character. He said "is there a sign at my gate that says dead nig ger storage?" He said it repeatedly and I was wondering why couldn't he say "dead body storage"? Why did it have to be a dead nig ger? Why? And then he just took the word and ran....you know...like when someone has been trying not to do something for a long while...and when they get the chance they run with it? That's how it seemed. He said it too many times for it to even be remotely funny.

Sorry for taking this off-topic but it's just something that has been bothering me.

Kanye was right...."Racism still alive...they just concealin' it".

Quincy
January 30, 2006, 09:17 PM
The word "******" is really offensive if you look at it in alot of ways for one if someone from another race "the whiteman" calls you a n.g.er I know most people would beat them down to the point of no return but then again if your friend that you know for a very long time walk pass you and calls you a ****** or is hailing you up and say n..ger whats up you don't take offense to it so really it is the context that it is used and also who calls that I can bet any money that the day you hear someone like eminem use the word you may stop listening to the music....didn't want to stray from the topic but I had to say something on this issue.

easyskanka
January 31, 2006, 06:14 AM
@ Manu & Quincy. Don't get me wrong you guys, because I don't want to offend either of you or anyone else. Quentin tarrentino is just being realistic and not offensive in the context of the film and role he is playing. Offence is only caused by the person choosing to be offended. It is far better that a white man or any other person calls me a ******, rather than a black man killing another black man or anyone else for that matter. I stressed the two black men because this is the most likey scenario.

In my opinon, if we could 'leggo' the more 'trivial' aspects of what makes us offended, the 'black male' would undoubtedly soar to much higher heights.

Manu
January 31, 2006, 08:49 PM
The word "******" is really offensive if you look at it in alot of ways for one if someone from another race "the whiteman" calls you a n.g.er I know most people would beat them down to the point of no return but then again if your friend that you know for a very long time walk pass you and calls you a ****** or is hailing you up and say n..ger whats up you don't take offense to it so really it is the context that it is used and also who calls that I can bet any money that the day you hear someone like eminem use the word you may stop listening to the music....didn't want to stray from the topic but I had to say something on this issue.

Eminem did use it in a song....he had a black gf who left him and he was hurt and dissed her. Benzino tried to ruin him with the tape...but to no avail.


Skanka...I hear you......but there is a difference....to me atleast between ni-gga and nig ger. Nig ga is a slang. Nig ger offends me even if is a parrot said it!

bernie
January 31, 2006, 09:40 PM
change the topic please...

Quincy
February 2, 2006, 12:26 AM
Cool I am off that subject

Izemi-Clem
February 2, 2006, 09:21 AM
Hail


Skanka...I hear you......but there is a difference....to me at least between ni-gga and nig ger. Nig ga is a slang. Nig ger offends me even if is a parrot said it!
:icon_arro Manu are you serious????????
That is a LAME excuse!!!!!!!
So you're telling me that there is also a difference between Bigga and Bigger?
They (the N words) both mean the same thing and it's used by ig'nant people, rappers and bigots.

You maybe like to listen to rap music, so like others you use this excuse to absolve yourself and your conscience while using this word, the same word the slave master used. They both have the same meaning, they both are derogatory terms, we are making the same excuse with the word b-itch.

Rappers may claim "a creative license" to use the term but it is the same thing homos do with the term fag-got (BTW the term means a bundle of sticks in the English language): which is only they can use it to describe themselves and if it is used by someone else outside their group then it is offensive.
People will use any excuse they can think of to justify something they know is wrong so they can feel better about what they are doing.
The use of the word by Tarrentino and others in the mass media just highlights the hypocrisy of the whole thing, it is a retrograde step for I and I people and it is being led by crotch grabbing dunces like fiddy and two pack etal.

Izemi-Clem

easyskanka
February 2, 2006, 04:36 PM
@ Izemi-Clem. Are you not dealing with double standards when you refer to certain white folks as 'bacra.' Or am I mistaken? I can't honestly remember what that term means, so apologies in advance if it is non-offensive.:)

Izemi-Clem
February 4, 2006, 08:05 PM
Hail

:icon_arro EasySkanka

No offence taken lion, I take it you might be a full fledged limey after all. :)
Did you spend anytime at all on the rock? (Jam Rock that is)

"Backra Massa" refers to the owner of the slave plantation, "backra" for short.
While "busha" was a term used for the plantation overseer, you found that in the late 18th and early 19th century there were a lot of absentee plantation ownership as these plantation owners were wealthy enough to live in England while the miserable slaves toiled away for their benefit, so you would also find that "backra" and "busha" was seen as the same person, as it was the overseer who lived in the "big house" and looked after the owner's interest.

Interestingly we overstand that the established landed gentry of the English astistocracy were resentful of this new class of this so called "new money" as they used they used their ill-gotten wealth from the islands to buy their way into high society. It is suggest that the ill will towards this group contributed towards the support for the abolishionist movement.

While we are on the siesta argument, you will find that custom is a throw back from earlier periods when then economy was largely agricultral based.
While it may still be afforded in some rural communities like in the south and north-west of Mexico, you will find that in metropolitan areas such as Peubla and Mexcio City itself, the pace is so hectic that such a practice would not be realistic. Mexico City is way more hectic than New York City.

Izemi-Clem

easyskanka
February 5, 2006, 02:37 PM
@ Izemi-Clem. I was born on the 'rock' as you put it, but while having heard the phrase 'bacra' many times while in JA, it was never explained to me, nor did I think to ask what it meant.

Interestingly...many people, men and otherwise are referred to as 'massa' instead of mr. etc in Jamdown. A throwback to slavery days perhaps? A limey for sure in lots of ways. But deep down.. a country yardman forever:D

Virus
February 5, 2006, 07:44 PM
Does ******itis happen at nite or is it a day thing... cuz how many ppl go to bed right after eating.

So is it that it happens in the day?

pogi_2nr
February 10, 2006, 10:39 AM
woi.. I just ate a jamaican breakfast and sleep a kill me now I spent the last 1/2
hour basically sleeping in my office chair with my eyes open zzZz:snoring:

dragonJA
February 15, 2006, 07:01 AM
its a form of skin shortness :)

KriTikaL
February 24, 2006, 10:11 PM
ye this is when u nyam way too much than u capacity will hold and u body start get likkle slugglish