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BlackCryptoKnight
January 29, 2006, 08:07 AM
With all the scientific evidence which exists proving the harmful effects of smoking (whether tobacco, or marijuana) and alcohol consumption, why do people continue to start to smoke and drink alcohol? Why do people start in the first place? Why is there so much promotion of these unhealthy habbits?
nester-san
January 29, 2006, 08:49 AM
Do you mean society as a whole or as individuals?
I don't smoke cigarettes, I do smoke weed, usually to get to sleep or to spice up sex (about once every two/months)
I don't drink often, about once every three months, also to spice up sex, or just to relax with GF. I do drink a shot of lemoncello to help my stomach when I reach home late and have to eat a very late dinner.
If you watch the Truth ads on TV, you will see the great lengths ciggy companies take to get their products to market :-(, However those ads are sponsored by big tobacco though, as part of a settlement LOL.
Side note. I find the ads informative, but the company producing them careless, since during filming a bunch of horses fell off a cliff to their deaths due to carelessness/cheap labour.
Honestly though, personally some alcholic drinks taste quite good, I like fruity slightly sweet of stuff with mild alchoholic taste, although I like mixing stuff with gin or vodka.
BlackCryptoKnight
January 29, 2006, 09:03 AM
Do you mean society as a whole or as individuals?
I don't smoke cigarettes, I do smoke weed, usually to get to sleep or to spice up sex (about once every two/months)
I don't drink often, about once every three months, also to spice up sex, or just to relax with GF. I do drink a shot of lemoncello to help my stomach when I reach home late and have to eat a very late dinner.
If you watch the Truth ads on TV, you will see the great lengths ciggy companies take to get their products to market :-(, However those ads are sponsored by big tobacco though, as part of a settlement LOL.
Side note. I find the ads informative, but the company producing them careless, since during filming a bunch of horses fell off a cliff to their deaths due to carelessness/cheap labour.
Honestly though, personally some alcholic drinks taste quite good, I like fruity slightly sweet of stuff with mild alchoholic taste, although I like mixing stuff with gin or vodka.
I mean why do individuals chose to smoke and drink despite the clear and proven negative impacts upon their health? Is it that they don't know any better, don't care, or value the immediate gratification over their health?
Is the temporary effect of using these substances worth the long term health problems that result from using them? Why not just be healthy and leave those things alone? Can't a person enjoy life without these things?
acidblade
January 29, 2006, 09:04 AM
smoke weed and drink to spice up sex? zeen :rolleyes:
nester-san
January 29, 2006, 09:15 AM
I mean why do individuals chose to smoke and drink despite the clear and proven negative impacts upon their health? Is it that they don't know any better, don't care, or value the immediate gratification over their health?
Is the temporary effect of using these substances worth the long term health problems that result from using them? Why not just be healthy and leave those things alone? Can't a person enjoy life without these things?
All things in moderation!
And yes, you can go through life without these things. I started drinking at 22, and smoked weed at 25, I do not do either socially, but usually in the company of VERY close friends.
Most studies do show that small amounts of wine are good for your heart ( I think a glass a day, I don't like most wines though.)
Remember, it is a personal choice, despite the influences/peer pressure. I did X on my own, after researching the good/bad for about 5 years.
I am one of those people who bore so easily it is extremely hard for me to become addicted to anything, so I have a much greater leeway in the things I can try than others.
BlackCryptoKnight
January 29, 2006, 09:28 AM
All things in moderation!
And yes, you can go through life without these things. I started drinking at 22, and smoked weed at 25, I do not do either socially, but usually in the company of VERY close friends.
Most studies do show that small amounts of wine are good for your heart ( I think a glass a day, I don't like most wines though.)
Remember, it is a personal choice, despite the influences/peer pressure. I did X on my own, after researching the good/bad for about 5 years.
I am one of those people who bore so easily it is extremely hard for me to become addicted to anything, so I have a much greater leeway in the things I can try than others.
You know, addicts usually start out thinking that they can't get addicted, and that they are in control of their habbit. They are usually proven wrong in the long run. Watch yourself.
Actually, the benefit to the heart that some attribute to wine, has nothing to do with the alchohol, it has to do with the grapes - so the same benefit can be had from grape juice, without the risks to health posed by alcohol. Check it.
Why even think to try smoking marijuana? What was the motivation? If you know you can go through life just fine without these things, why take the risk and use them? You may feel you have control now, but you never know how you will handle things later on. Why take the risk that you can lose control?
Manu
January 29, 2006, 10:00 AM
smoke weed and drink to spice up sex? zeen :rolleyes:
Some man have it...and some don't acid:cool:
Them have to get artificial stimulation.
Anyways, I don't smoke. Never will smoke. I don't see the sense. I don't care about the medical side effects of lung cancer. That's just more reason not to. Puffing smoke discolours your teeth, and makes your breath stink so why? After some man smoke weed...dem green.....their BO is excruciating man. Why must you guys do that yourself? You get a high any other way? Find a hobbby man....geez.
About Alcohol, I sip a smirnoff or rum cream like 1-3 times per year. I don't like the mix up and binge drinking of alochol. As you all should know, alcohol brings out the taste of drinks and food...and plus it sort of relaxes you so that's why I may sip a little now and then. I hate to see people go and gulp down 5 beers at a party(which tastes awful IMHO). No flavour....just bitter. To each their own I suppose....
nester-san
January 29, 2006, 10:01 AM
You know, addicts usually start out thinking that they can't get addicted, and that they are in control of their habbit. They are usually proven wrong in the long run. Watch yourself.
You have no idea the depths of boredom my mind is capable of reaching, also remember my big thing about religious independence ?
That independence applies to my body as well, while I can truely enjoy the feelings (X is really the best), I would rather die than allow myself to be dependent on anything, plus the "high" is not normal, and I cannot deal with feeling not normal for any length of time.
There really are addictive personalities, and there are personalities where they can even do crack and it is nothing.
There is a site I go to where they have scientific, and social and personal studies/reports of misc drugs, even some 99% of people have never heard about.
This guy had an intriguing article on about 8 types of drugs and the effect they had on his sex life. He and his Gf tried them togther then compared notes, and he was very specific about cocaine, he said he did it once or twice over last 5 years, did not like how it made him feel (chatty), so he had no craving whatsoever. He said in experiment his GF refused to take it, cause she cannot control urges to continue using. He said he could literally see her drooling watching him do the lines.
Btw for the curious weed was only drug he found that gave them both enhanced sexual pleasure. :)
Why even think to try smoking marijuana? What was the motivation? If you know you can go through life just fine without these things, why take the risk and use them? You may feel you have control now, but you never know how you will handle things later on. Why take the risk that you can lose control?
Risk is a part of life, and at 20+ I know myself enough to know what I can take. I do not recommend drugs(including alchol) for everyone. I have several friends who I know should never try weed, or X, because of the personalities they have.
Weed also makes stuff very funny, a very small group of friends (GF and 2 other girls) and I watched the "Ali-G Movie" on some Ice Weed, and we laughed till we cried/rolling aorund on the ground.
"Harold and Kumar go to White Castle" is also 50 times funnier when you are high.
Plus I wanted to see what the hubbub was about :D :eusa_whis
People can get addicted to anything, Mountain climbing, Illegal street racing, Sex, all of which are as destructive and fatal!
Drugs are just cheaper and more easily available.
nester-san
January 29, 2006, 10:05 AM
Some man have it...and some don't acid:cool:
Them have to get artificial stimulation.
About Alcohol, I sip a smirnoff or rum cream like 1-3 times per year. I don't like the mix up and binge drinking of alochol. As you all should know, alcohol brings out the taste of drinks and food...and plus it sort of relaxes you so that's why I may sip a little now and then. I hate to see people go and gulp down 5 beers at a party(which tastes awful IMHO). No flavour....just bitter. To each their own I suppose....
What does that have to do with sex, I never said I need it for sex, did I ?
"spice up" Like vibrating condoms, or Trojan Twisted Pleasure condoms.
"Sort of relaxes you", sounds like artificial stimulation to me :icon_lol:
btw, what is the diff. between sipping a smirnoff and the 5 beer drinking fellas? No same alchohol ?
one line of cocaine vs. five lines LOL ?
Remember I said modereration!!
BlackCryptoKnight
January 29, 2006, 10:10 AM
You have no idea the depths of boredom my mind is capable of reaching, also remember my big thing about religious independence ?
That independence applies to my body as well, while I can truely enjoy the feelings (X is really the best), I would rather die than allow myself to be dependent on anything, plus the "high" is not normal, and I cannot deal with feeling not normal for any length of time.
There really are addictive personalities, and there are personalities where they can even do crack and it is nothing.
There is a site I go to where they have scientific, and social and personal studies/reports of misc drugs, even some 99% of people have never heard about.
This guy had an intriguing article on about 8 types of drugs and the effect they had on his sex life. He and his Gf tried them togther then compared notes, and he was very specific about cocaine, he said he did it once or twice over last 5 years, did not like how it made him feel (chatty), so he had no craving whatsoever. He said in experiment his GF refused to take it, cause she cannot control urges to continue using. He said he could literally see her drooling watching him do the lines.
Btw for the curious weed was only drug he found that gave them both enhanced sexual pleasure. :)
Risk is a part of life, and at 20+ I know myself enough to know what I can take. I do not recommend drugs(including alchol) for everyone. I have several friends who I know should never try weed, or X, because of the personalities they have.
Weed also makes stuff very funny, a very small group of friends (GF and 2 other girls) and I watched the "Ali-G Movie" on some Ice Weed, and we laughed till we cried/rolling aorund on the ground.
"Harold and Kumar go to White Castle" is also 50 times funnier when you are high.
Plus I wanted to see what the hubbub was about :D :eusa_whis
People can get addicted to anything, Mountain climbing, Illegal street racing, Sex, all of which are as destructive and fatal!
Drugs are just cheaper and more easily available.
Dude, you can talk about moderation, and your ability to control etc. etc. all you want. Everytime you partake of those things, you damage your body. Scientific fact. From killing braincells, to damaging lungs, to putting strain on the internal organs (liver, kidney). Yes, there are many risky things in life, some of which definitely need to be avoided - including things like alcohol and tobacco/marijuana/other drugs.
The question is whether it is sensible to do something which is unhealthy, regardless of the amount of "moderation" one thinks one can impose on usage.
At the root of it is something you spoke of, the need to feel something or escape from something. It points to some deeper psychological condition which in fact, does indicate dependence. You may think you "can't allow yourself to be dependent" but in reality you are. Those deeper issues need to be resolved so you can be healthy.
nester-san
January 29, 2006, 10:41 AM
At the root of it is something you spoke of, the need to feel something or escape from something.
What about the people who are addicted to other dangerous pursuits ?
People who feel the need to drive at 250 miles an hour?
(A friend's father had to give up street racing, because the constant adrenaline high contributed to his heart attacks)
Or free-climb up a mountain with NO SAFETY GEAR
or sail around the South pacific facing 60 Ft waves for 8 months by themsleves?
Or free-dive off cliffs ?
Or bungie-jump ?
What are they escaping from ?
It points to some deeper psychological condition which in fact, does indicate dependence. You may think you "can't allow yourself to be dependent" but in reality you are. Those deeper issues need to be resolved so you can be healthy.
Why are you always so quick to tell me how I am feeling, or what I am lacking ?
What the hell is healthy ?
You asked, and I am telling you, please do not turn this into a I need this, I am missing that debate. If you ask me questions I will answer you, as best I can.
What am I dependent on ?
Which deeper psychological condition is that ?
Manu
January 29, 2006, 10:42 AM
5 beers is over doing it Nester-san. And beers don't taste good. Justify it all you want though. To each their own. When you have a child, I hope you'll be just as liberal and if you are....I hope her body is just as tolerant as yours.
So you're saying in essence,everyone is doing it so what's the big deal right? You remind me of that dude in the commercial that stuck his hand in his mouth and couldn't get it out. His friend's told him to try pot and he did. Today they told him to stick his fist in his mouth and now it's stuck. Really funny ad. :)
nester-san
January 29, 2006, 10:48 AM
I do have a child.
Who I expect to be mature enough to make choices about her body before she actually does do anything.
Beers are quite nasty, but alcohol is alcohol !
Only a teetolaer can criticise a drinker without being a hypocrite.
"I sip rum cream, so I am fine, while the 5 beer drinkers are bad" LOL
I do not drink or smoke more, simply because I have no wish to. When I wish to I do. Simple
Manu
January 29, 2006, 11:00 AM
I do have a child.
Who I expect to be mature enough to make choices about her body before she actually does do anything.
Beers are quite nasty, but alcohol is alcohol !
Only a teetolaer can criticise a drinker without being a hypocrite.
"I sip rum cream, so I am fine, while the 5 beer drinkers are bad" LOL
I do not drink or smoke more, simply because I have no wish to. When I wish to I do. Simple
No Nester....we going back and forth and we agree on one pivotal point : "Moderation"!
I say I drink Alcoholic beverages from time to time...like 1-3 times per year. I don't even drink much....because I like how the alocohol brings out the taste of the cream. I just don't see how some one can chug down 5 beers in a row. It doesn't taste good...so it must just be for the sheer exhileration of "getting hammered". That's what I was talking about. As for the smoking...I see no sense in it what's so ever.....but as I said before...and will continue to say...to each his own. Afterall, if we all were alike, this world would be even MORE boring ;)
BlackCryptoKnight
January 29, 2006, 11:11 AM
What about the people who are addicted to other dangerous pursuits ?
People who feel the need to drive at 250 miles an hour?
(A friend's father had to give up street racing, because the constant adrenaline high contributed to his heart attacks)
Or free-climb up a mountain with NO SAFETY GEAR
or sail around the South pacific facing 60 Ft waves for 8 months by themsleves?
Or free-dive off cliffs ?
Or bungie-jump ?
What are they escaping from ?
Maybe the same thing those who do drugs are. But we aren't talking about them. We can always make another thread for that.
Why are you always so quick to tell me how I am feeling, or what I am lacking ?
You put yourself and your feelings out there. Read your posts again.
What the hell is healthy ?
Not doing anything that is self-destructive.
Not taking unnecessary risks with your life.
Having a balanced, stable and wholesome mind, body and spirit.
What am I dependent on ?
Which deeper psychological condition is that ?
That's for you to figure out and to deal with.
nester-san
January 29, 2006, 11:29 AM
You do know those people are referred to as "adrenaline junkies" because they crave the high that you get when you get an adrenaline rush ?
Friends dad when telling stories of his driving exploits used to say when he came out of the car his hands and body would be trembling all over coming down off adrenaline rush ?
Adrenaline junkie is a colloquialism used to describe somebody who is presumably addicted to adrenaline and its effects on the body. The adrenaline in question comes from an endogenous source (i.e., the adrenal gland) and does not imply the use of exogenous adrenaline (e.g., injection).
Adrenaline junkies enjoy engaging in activities that stimulate the adrenal glands, which are responsible for producing a broad spectrum of hormones which cause the stress response, also known as the fight-or-flight response. Adrenaline is the most well-known hormone in this family, although each of the hormones, which include noradrenaline, cortisol, and various other catecholamines and corticosteroids, play a part in the stress response. The effects include hyperarousal, increased blood flow, heightened pulse rate, and increased physical performance, which adrenaline junkies find an enjoyable and invigorating state of mind and body.
Sounds druggie to me !
You put yourself and your feelings out there. Read your posts again."
You asked a question, I answered personally, I was not aware that this would involve a psychiatric evaluation
You started from "but this is bad for you, what do you get out of it", which is fine to
At the root of it is something you spoke of, the need to feel something or escape from something. It points to some deeper psychological condition which in fact, does indicate dependence. You may think you "can't allow yourself to be dependent" but in reality you are. Those deeper issues need to be resolved so you can be healthy.
About Alcohol, I sip a smirnoff or rum cream like 1-3 times per year. I don't like the mix up and binge drinking of alochol. As you all should know, alcohol brings out the taste of drinks and food...and plus it sort of relaxes you so that's why I may sip a little now and then. I hate to see people go and gulp down 5 beers at a party(which tastes awful IMHO). No flavour....just bitter. To each their own I suppose....
Where is Manu's critique as an part time alcohol user?
btw. Manu, I do not even like how alcohol burns/tastes, I hate rum cream for that reason, I prefer very fuity drinks where you can't taste it, or mixed stuff where it is almost completely masked.
Bahama Mama
January 29, 2006, 01:46 PM
With all the scientific evidence which exists proving the harmful effects of smoking (whether tobacco, or marijuana) and alcohol consumption, why do people continue to start to smoke and drink alcohol? Why do people start in the first place?
-Curiosity
-Peer Pressure
Why is there so much promotion of these unhealthy habbits?
$$$$$$$
Alcohol is probably the most sought after commodity in the world behind oil and coffee. Tobacco may be in the top ten.
acidblade
January 29, 2006, 04:08 PM
to fit in
Chicokid
January 29, 2006, 06:01 PM
With all the scientific evidence which exists proving the harmful effects of smoking (whether tobacco, or marijuana) and alcohol consumption, why do people continue to start to smoke and drink alcohol? Why do people start in the first place? Why is there so much promotion of these unhealthy habbits?
There are person doing medicine at the university here and they smoking everyday :icon_eek: :rolleyes:
Manu
January 29, 2006, 07:43 PM
Manu, I do not even like how alcohol burns/tastes, I hate rum cream for that reason, I prefer very fuity drinks where you can't taste it, or mixed stuff where it is almost completely masked.
Yeah...I'm not too fond of that either...but rum cream is simply delish.....
I do prefer the fruity drinks....the alcohol brings out the fruit. I hear champagne only tastes good with fruit...like strawberries...for that very reason...
Jae
January 29, 2006, 08:11 PM
Because we all wanna shave a couple of years off of our already short lives.
pogi_2nr
January 30, 2006, 09:04 AM
I drink every now and then but I dont smoke.
alcohol is bad for you?
nuhsenutten
January 30, 2006, 09:52 AM
i used to smoke ....but it was more of a fitting in thing so after awhile i just stopped....but damn the cigars smell sweet::D........i still drink occasionally when i go out .....rum cream and ice mostly ...not into the hard stuff
i agree with manu.....no beer nuh taste good
Twinkie
January 30, 2006, 12:21 PM
I used to drink to get that buzz that helps you to enjoy the party oh so much more.
Not into the smoking. I was a social drinker. Only at parties.
Don't drink anymore, jus realise my body is a temple, gots to take care of it. Plus I wanna have uncomplicated births.
pogi_2nr
January 30, 2006, 02:08 PM
Some people drink it to losen up, over the recent holidays my friend said she
wanted to drink coz she was bored so I introduced her to Mr. Walker lol it was
all downhill from there. The girl black out about one hour later, if she wasnt my
best friend I would have taken advantage of that situation :eusa_shif. Her teenyboper
cousin and her mother got in the drinking action too. My eyes were on the young
one.. yes :icon_twis
nuhsenutten
January 30, 2006, 02:12 PM
u coulda b my bredgrin likkle more u naw meet none a my sister dem :D....
Manu
January 30, 2006, 02:48 PM
Some people drink it to losen up, over the recent holidays my friend said she
wanted to drink coz she was bored so I introduced her to Mr. Walker lol it was
all downhill from there. The girl black out about one hour later, if she wasnt my
best friend I would have taken advantage of that situation :eusa_shif. Her teenyboper
cousin and her mother got in the drinking action too. My eyes were on the young
one.. yes :icon_twis
I see Pogi is suffering from the R. Kelly Syndrome....yes...:eusa_naug
BlackCryptoKnight
January 30, 2006, 02:52 PM
How many people seriously consider the health risks associated with consuming alcohol and smoking? Does it make any difference in your decision?
Twinkie
January 30, 2006, 03:04 PM
Pogi....more and more I stop wondering about you, it's obvious you are "special"
Twinkie
January 30, 2006, 03:21 PM
Read more here (http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/dementia/a/blacer030617.htm)Research has shown that heavy alcohol use clearly damages retrospective memory, that is, the learning, retention and retrieval of previously presented materials. Less is known about the effects of alcohol on day-to-day memory function, specifically, prospective memory, remembering to do things at some future point in time, and everyday memory, remembering to complete daily activities.
A study in the June 2003 issue of Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research uses internet-based methodology to find that heavy alcohol consumption has a negative impact on day-to-day memory.
Another reason I no longer indulge...jus a few of the many negative side effects.
Pogi on a serious note, you young my yute, watch the habit yo!
Twinkie
January 30, 2006, 03:35 PM
Read more here http://bnccpa.com/alcoholics.htm?gclid=CIigrOGT84ICFTSJLAodCT2JsQThe problem, really, is that most people who have a compulsively excessive drinking habit do not realize that they are already suffering from alcohol addiction. Some of them, in fact, are of the belief that their inveterate alcohol intake is but normal, with complete disregard of the tumultuous effects it has brought to their lives.
just a tad more....... .
Twinkie
January 30, 2006, 03:36 PM
Short-term effects
Alcohol suppresses the part of the brain that controls judgement, resulting in a loss of inhibitions. It also affects physical co-ordination, causing blurred vision, slurred speech and loss of balance. Drinking a very large amount at one time (binge drinking) can lead to unconsciousness, coma, and even death. Vomiting while unconscious can lead to death by asphyxiation (suffocation). Alcohol is implicated in a large proportion of fatal road accidents, assaults and incidents of domestic violence.
Long-term effects
Alcohol can be a dangerous drug. Drinking too much too often will cause physical damage, increase the risk of getting some diseases, and make other diseases worse. Excessive drinking over time is associated with:
loss of brain cells,
liver failure,
irritated stomac lining and bleeding from stomach ulcers,
high blood pressure (which can lead to stroke),
certain types of cancer,
nerve damage,
heart failure,
epilepsy.
Excessive drinking has also been linked to:
vitamin deficiency,
obesity,
sexual problems,
infertility,
muscle disease,
skin problems,
inflammation of the pancreas.
Read more here (http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/mosby_factsheets/alcohol_abuse.html)
Manu
January 30, 2006, 03:42 PM
Smoking....not really...I decided against before knowing the dangers. As for alocohol, I would say that yes, that is really why I don't consume on a regular basis.
pogi_2nr
January 31, 2006, 09:29 AM
My drinking doesnt concern me much.. as I said I drink every now and then.
The last time I had something to drink was on 2nd of Jan I think..
damned alcohol makes you forget :)
In my defense, the teenybopers where all past the age of consent so no R. kelly
right here. I may have given my friend alcohol poisoning that night but it was for
the best, she now hates the smell and taste of alcohol(part of my big plan) :cool:.
Liquid Bunny
January 31, 2006, 12:55 PM
I use to get nuff outta drinking...i was really dependent. (when i was mad, it calmed me. sad it made me not think about it, shy it made me outgoing..etc). It helped me a lot ... or so i thought... but i almost killed ma self so i gave it up.
Now i can actually remember stuff... its a pretty nice feeling. Its a wonder ive made it this far in life given where i'm comming from.
Smoking now... I really dont know what ppl get outta dat... Ive tried it but it was very short lived.
pogi_2nr
January 31, 2006, 04:06 PM
smoking is supposed to calm you down. what I dont get is why people smoke
after doing the horizontal polka dance.
Liquid Bunny
January 31, 2006, 04:40 PM
smoking is supposed to calm you down. what I dont get is why people smoke
after doing the horizontal polka dance.
lol ok Pog...DWL
crack head:eusa_wall
acidblade
January 31, 2006, 04:53 PM
i don't drink or smoke...........ok carry on
Liquid Bunny
January 31, 2006, 05:09 PM
i don't drink or smoke...........ok carry on
Thanks for ur irrelevant input AB :)
jk
Chicokid
January 31, 2006, 05:12 PM
People say Beer most times make people get fat..anyone know about that :icon_ques :icon_ques
Bahama Mama
January 31, 2006, 07:11 PM
People say Beer most times make people get fat..anyone know about that :icon_ques :icon_ques
Yes it does. Beer is laden with calories and sugar. In men, excessive consumption of beer gives them that disgusting beer belly. You know the type that looks like some of them are ready to drop twins. :eusa_naug
Chicokid
January 31, 2006, 09:50 PM
Yes it does. Beer is laden with calories and sugar.
I am fully aware of that..but what I don't understand is why that happens with only beer and not stouts like Guinness, Mackerson, Royal Stout, etc....
Stouts and Beer basically go through the same process so that leaves me clueless :confused:
bernie
January 31, 2006, 10:06 PM
i only drank because of peer pressure. i didn't want my friends thinking i was a wuss. its the same reason i tried smoking. i took a draw and puffed....
...then when i came back to i was on the ground laughing like crazy.
man i never touched those things from that day...
Bahama Mama
January 31, 2006, 10:24 PM
I am fully aware of that..but what I don't understand is why that happens with only beer and not stouts like Guinness, Mackerson, Royal Stout, etc....
Stouts and Beer basically go through the same process so that leaves me clueless :confused:
Arent stouts like Guinness classified under the general group 'beers'?
The difference may be in the type of yeast used in the fermentation process, the temperature, etc.
pogi_2nr
February 1, 2006, 08:50 AM
I think it makes you fat due to the amount of carbs it has.
drinking beer is like eating rice :) I think coconut water is supposed to have the same result too.
nester-san
February 1, 2006, 10:44 AM
So how most countries in asia that are large consumers of rice no have the "big-belly man" problem ?
nuhsenutten
February 1, 2006, 10:58 AM
cause they have to do everything themselves no machinery to harvest the rice ......excercise
Brownsugar
February 1, 2006, 11:02 AM
So how most countries in asia that are large consumers of rice no have the "big-belly man" problem ?
They consume very little rice along with other things! hint-hint, no such word as ******ists there!
nester-san
February 1, 2006, 11:41 AM
NO, they consume HUGE quantities of rice, in Japan rice was used to pay warlords to show you how valuable it is. Japanese rice is not even exported out of Japan.
"More than 90 percent of the world's rice is grown and consumed in Asia."
http://www.asiarice.org/
AngelsKiss
February 1, 2006, 12:09 PM
NO, they consume HUGE quantities of rice, in Japan rice was used to pay warlords to show you how valuable it is. Japanese rice is not even exported out of Japan.
"More than 90 percent of the world's rice is grown and consumed in Asia."
http://www.asiarice.org/
They consume hugh portions meaning they comsume is a staple diet there. However, they don't eat a lot all at once hence the weight factor. Rice is used a lot for many of their cuisines along with vegetables, and various fish kinds.
Chinese too consume lots of rice but not all at once and includes a lot of vegetables.
BTW the problem with the western world and weight issues primarily the USA is that they snack a lot. If my memory serves me right the US snack industry is over a $billion each year.
Brownsugar
February 1, 2006, 12:20 PM
NO, they consume HUGE quantities of rice, in Japan rice was used to pay warlords to show you how valuable it is. Japanese rice is not even exported out of Japan.
"More than 90 percent of the world's rice is grown and consumed in Asia."
http://www.asiarice.org/
"So how most countries in asia that are large consumers of rice no have the "big-belly man" problem ?"
You really cant compare over populated areas such as Asia to esle where. Rice in these countries are necessary!
"ah mean wah else is theres to eat?" They really wouldnt be affect by such thing "beer belly"! Due to they dont feast junk etc, so as soon as its digested it turns into well need energy.
"cause they have to do everything themselves no machinery to harvest the rice ......excercise"
Reasons why they eat it twice sometimes three times ah day. Rice fill in as their daily staple, fats, carobohydrate etc!
"Not all beers are alike. Some contain more calories, some more carbohydrates, etc."http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/good-bad.php
BlackCryptoKnight
February 16, 2006, 05:00 PM
Just a little info on the drug Ecstasy
Are there long-term consequences to taking Ecstasy?
Although further studies are needed, more and more research suggests that Ecstasy causes serotonin levels to drop below normal, which impairs the brain's ability to learn, retain information and regulate mood. It appears that Ecstasy causes serotonin receptors, which allow the serotonin to fire in the brain, to shrink from overuse. Some evidence shows that restoration of serotonin receptors is possible with continued abstinence from the drug, but that people who have never taken Ecstasy have more functioning serotonin receptors than those who have.
Other studies suggest that regular or heavy Ecstasy use has long-term negative effects on memory and brain function which go well beyond the last pill taken (and seem to continue to increase in spite of long-term abstinence from the drug). One study found that women are particularly vulnerable to damage to the serotonin system by MDMA.
Taken from here. (http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/atod/od_ecstasy.htm)
Here is an additional resource on the effects of Ecstasy on the brain. (http://www.drugabuse.gov/pubs/teaching/teaching4/Teaching2.html)
AngelsKiss
February 21, 2006, 06:30 PM
I did X on my own, after researching the good/bad for about 5 years.
What is X, I don't think I ever heard of that drug?
BlackCryptoKnight
February 21, 2006, 06:33 PM
What is X, I don't think I ever heard of that drug?
See my post above yours. X= Ecstacy
AngelsKiss
February 21, 2006, 06:40 PM
Actually Nester is right, the people who become addicts are people with dependency problems, they take drugs as a way of escaping their problems.
I know a few persons (mostly Europeans) who use to dabble in drugs and they were never addicted. They just tried various types of drugs. The people who have dabbled in drugs and don't become addicts are usually people who do it for fun and to experiment. I spoke to this one guy and he told me of all the drugs he experimented with. I was shock and asked him if he was every addicted, he said no, they (his university friends) just mess around.
Many of us many not find fun that way and think it's silly to even try drugs but what the heck, there will always be people who will try stuff like that. It doesn't make them bad, just silly I suppose:)
I agree that people shouldn't experiment even if it is for fun but what the heck some people will. In any event life is a risk, we can walk out the door and get hit by a bus:)
BlackCryptoKnight
February 21, 2006, 06:48 PM
Actually Nester is right, the people who become addicts are people with dependency problems, they take drugs as a way of escaping their problems.
I know a few persons (mostly Europeans) who use to dabble in drugs and they were never addicted. They just tried various types of drugs. The people who have dabbled in drugs and don't become addicts are usually people who do it for fun and to experiment. I spoke to this one guy and he told me of all the drugs he experimented with. I was shock and asked him if he was every addicted, he said no, they (his university friends) just mess around.
Many of us many not find fun that way and think it's silly to even try drugs but what the heck, there will always be people who will try stuff like that. It doesn't make them bad, just silly I suppose:)
I agree that people shouldn't experiment even if it is for fun but what the heck some people will. In any event life is a risk, we can walk out the door and get hit by a bus:)
Wifey MD says that one of the first major red flags physicians see when dealing with drug addicts, is when the addicts try and prove that they're not addicted. :icon_mrgr
AngelsKiss
February 21, 2006, 06:56 PM
Wifey MD says that one of the first major red flags physicians see when dealing with drug addicts, is when the addicts try and prove that they're not addicted. :icon_mrgr
LOL...true...like right now am feeling for some Coffee but I know am not addicted.
Anyway, its really true am not addicted.
Really I am not.
You believe me right?
BlackCryptoKnight
February 21, 2006, 06:58 PM
LOL...true...like right now am feeling for some Coffee but I know am not addicted.
Anyway, its really true am not addicted.
Really I am not.
You believe me right?
Riiiiight... sure I do ... ;)
AngelsKiss
February 21, 2006, 07:02 PM
Riiiiight... sure I do ... ;)
Ok don't believe me then. I just made some and I ain't giving you any.
Ramie...even though you are an old lady I will offer you some of my coffee...so ya want some? It's Hazelnut coffee with hazelnut creamer :)
LOL...man we sure can corrupt a thread :dwl:
BlackCryptoKnight
February 21, 2006, 07:05 PM
Ok don't believe me then. I just made some and I ain't giving you any.
Ramie...even though you are an old lady I will offer you some of my coffee...so ya want some? It's Hazelnut coffee with hazelnut creamer :)
LOL...man we sure can corrupt a thread :dwl:
Methinks the caffine hath made thee exceedingly high. :eusa_thin
AngelsKiss
February 21, 2006, 07:08 PM
Methinks the caffine hath made thee exceedingly high. :eusa_thin
LOL...wrong, I only have 1 cup of caffeinated coffee per day (so what if the cup is a soup mug).
The rest of the time I drink decaf:)
Яedz
February 21, 2006, 07:12 PM
I like to drink :icon_redf
acidblade
February 21, 2006, 07:35 PM
I like to drink :icon_redf
why ?
Яedz
February 21, 2006, 09:12 PM
why ?
Because I like how it feels when I'm tipsy... I don't usually drink a lot, but when I go to parties and stuff I like to drink...
BlackCryptoKnight
April 23, 2006, 12:09 PM
Personality traits and mental disorders are major conditioning factors in drug addiction. Risk-taking or novelty-seeking traits favor the use of addictive drugs. Polydrug use is frequent among those with drug addiction, and many fulfill the criteria for dependence on or abuse of (or both) more than one substance. Psychiatric disorders, particularly schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression, and attention-deficit–hyperactivity disorder, are associated with an increased risk of abuse. A dual diagnosis (substance abuse and mental disorder) has unfavorable implications for management and outcome.
New England Journal of Medicine (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/349/10/975?andorexacttitleabs=and&search_tab=articles&tocsectionid=Original+Articles&tocsectionid=Special+Reports&tocsectionid=Special+Articles&tocsectionid=Videos+in+Clinical+Medicine&tocsectionid=Clinical+Practice&tocsectionid=Review+ArticlesAORBClinical+PracticeA ORBClinical+Implications+of+Basic+ResearchAORBMole cular+Medicine&tocsectionid=EditorialsAORBPerspectiveAORBOutlookA ORBBehind+the+Research&tocsectionid=Sounding+BoardAORBClinical+Debate&tocsectionid=Clinical+Implications+of+Basic+Resear ch&tocsectionid=Health+Policy+ReportsAORBHealth+Polic y+2001AORBQuality+of+Health+Care&tmonth=Apr&searchtitle=Articles&excludeflag=TWEEK_element&sortspec=Score+desc+PUBDATE_SORTDATE+desc&hits=20&where=fulltext&tyear=2006&andorexactfulltext=and&fyear=1996&fmonth=Apr&sendit=GO&searchterm=Methylenedioxymethamphetamine&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT)
Interesting ... :eusa_thin
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tascy
April 23, 2006, 12:42 PM
well I've never drink too much alcohol to get tipsy, but I never smoked. It's not that I'm miss perfect or anything I just choose not to. Most of my friends that I hang out with they get high, and get drunk, but at the end of the day the decison is all your either you want to smoke and get high or drink and get drunk :)
easyskanka
May 2, 2006, 03:49 PM
The first recorded drunkard in the bible was Noah. He ended up unwittingly exposing himself so that his sons (two of them) had to respectfully and discreetly cover him up. The third son laughed his head off while seeing his father exposed and got cursed for his disrespect.
The old testement according to Solomon I think :eusa_thin , said: the one who has a lot of problems weighing him down, should by all means have a few beverages (alchoholic) and forget their woes. It didn't say 'make it a habit'. Also in the new testement it says a little wine is good for the stomach. Let's also not forget that Jesus turned the water into wine, and I have a feeling it would have been alchoholic wine.
Alchoholic beverages, like good sex in it's rightful place and moderation can be extremely beneficial to our overall well-being.
BlackCryptoKnight
May 2, 2006, 04:31 PM
The first recorded drunkard in the bible was Noah. He ended up unwittingly exposing himself so that his sons (two of them) had to respectfully and discreetly cover him up. The third son laughed his head off while seeing his father exposed and got cursed for his disrespect.
The old testement according to Solomon I think :eusa_thin , said: the one who has a lot of problems weighing him down, should by all means have a few beverages (alchoholic) and forget their woes. It didn't say 'make it a habit'. Also in the new testement it says a little wine is good for the stomach. Let's also not forget that Jesus turned the water into wine, and I have a feeling it would have been alchoholic wine.
Alchoholic beverages, like good sex in it's rightful place and moderation can be extremely beneficial to our overall well-being.
Read here. (http://en.bibleinfo.com/questions/question.html?id=715)
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nuhsenutten
May 2, 2006, 04:44 PM
this begs the question .....If the bible so staunchly warns against the drinking of wine why did jesus convert water into this vilest of substances ...why not juice or something ?
BlackCryptoKnight
May 2, 2006, 04:47 PM
this begs the question .....If the bible so staunchly warns against the drinking of wine why did jesus convert water into this vilest of substances ...why not juice or something ?
Did you read the page linked to in the post above?
The argument is put forward that the "wine" referred to in the Bible which Jesus made from water was unfermented ie. non-alcoholic grape juice or such the like.
flirt
May 2, 2006, 06:47 PM
Why do people continue to have unprotected sex, even though there are numerous STDs?
cause it brings them instant gratification...why do u think they smoke and drink? its da same reason...
:icon_eek:
With all the scientific evidence which exists proving the harmful effects of smoking (whether tobacco, or marijuana) and alcohol consumption, why do people continue to start to smoke and drink alcohol? Why do people start in the first place? Why is there so much promotion of these unhealthy habbits?
Liquid Bunny
May 2, 2006, 06:52 PM
right about now i sorry i stopped drinking... unhealthy or not ppl will always do things that comfort them... most of which we wont be able to understand nor might we agree... but we all have our little bad habits... some are harmful to our health... some are harmful to our social life... some are harmful to our financial stability... some are harmful to our spirituality...but we get kicks out of it so we will forever continue to do it.
Drinking for me slows down my thought processes when i'm mad so i have time to reflect and act rationally....makes me think less about stuff that depress me. it loosens me up when i feel uptight... drinking even thought it hurt me in a lot of ways (such as... my memory got terrible... i didnt realize how bad it was until i stopped).. but helped me as well... it was a comfort.
BlackCryptoKnight
May 2, 2006, 07:22 PM
Drinking for me slows down my thought processes when i'm mad so i have time to reflect and act rationally....makes me think less about stuff that depress me. it loosens me up when i feel uptight... drinking even thought it hurt me in a lot of ways (such as... my memory got terrible... i didnt realize how bad it was until i stopped).. but helped me as well... it was a comfort.
So based on what you said, that "help" was an illusion. When your mind is in such a state that your memory is faulty, how can you be so sure that it actually "helped" you? Yes, dulling the sense may have comforted you in that you were able to forget about problems or just feel a buzz, but that only masked the greater damage it was doing to you. Anyhoo, it's good you stopped. Clarity of thought is always better. Good for you.
BlackCryptoKnight
May 2, 2006, 07:24 PM
Why do people continue to have unprotected sex, even though there are numerous STDs?
cause it brings them instant gratification...why do u think they smoke and drink? its da same reason...
:icon_eek:
So why so much hype about instant gratification? Are people going to die if they don't get it? Is instant gratification really worth all the risk, hurt and damage that comes with those activities?
Liquid Bunny
May 2, 2006, 07:26 PM
Anyhoo, it's good you stopped. Clarity of thought is always better. Good for you.
if u say so.
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root_gal
May 3, 2006, 01:41 AM
The answer is simple: It feels good. Imagine a world without alcohol and drugs. Then the term "sex, drugs and rock and roll" would be utterly meaningless. I think that more people should be allowed to drink. Maybe Gerber should come out with a "guiness and redbull" fruit juice just for the kiddies. Nothing would be more adorable that to see some seven year olds with bottles of 40's :)
Smoking calms ur nerves though. I don't smoke cos I don't have a death wish but most ppl seem to
As for drugs.............well..............don't do them either...........don't see why people do
BUT.......alcohol has it's rightful place in the world.
easyskanka
May 3, 2006, 04:36 PM
On balance it would be advisable not to drink. However if one has self control and a taste for alchohol, then as responsible adults I do not regard it has a sin when consumed in moderation. Jesus did not condone or condemn the use of alchohol. Those who had consumed the old wine before Jesus' arrival at the wedding celebration merely commented on how superior the new wine tasted.
easyskanka
May 3, 2006, 05:09 PM
Apologies are due for calling Noah a drunkard. For all I know he might not have indulged in alchohol after his first drunken bout. Or that could have been his first and last experience of being drunk.
Twinkie
May 3, 2006, 05:20 PM
I do not think all inclusive parties are for recovering addicts such as myself.
flirt
May 4, 2006, 04:26 PM
"Instant" Gratification..whos is thinking about the future....right then and there it feels good...dude...u can think for yourself..dont ask questions you know the answers to
:eusa_wall
So why so much hype about instant gratification? Are people going to die if they don't get it? Is instant gratification really worth all the risk, hurt and damage that comes with those activities?
BlackCryptoKnight
May 4, 2006, 04:29 PM
"Instant" Gratification..whos is thinking about the future....right then and there it feels good...dude...u can think for yourself..dont ask questions you know the answers to
:eusa_wall
And is it a smart thing to seek to just feel good in the moment despite the negative consequences which will affect you in the future?
flirt
May 4, 2006, 04:33 PM
Dude, who cares..the surgeon general tell people dont smoke they still do it..jeez who cares...as long as they allow me to treat them...I can make more $$$..thats life...
And is it a smart thing to seek to just feel good in the moment despite the negative consequences which will affect you in the future?
BlackCryptoKnight
May 4, 2006, 04:36 PM
Dude, who cares..the surgeon general tell people dont smoke they still do it..jeez who cares...as long as they allow me to treat them...I can make more $$$..thats life...
You don't/won't care about your patients? Would you care if a loved one of yours got hit by a drunk driver or robbed by a crack head?
flirt
May 4, 2006, 05:11 PM
I would care..Im human...but I cant stop the inevitable
Ya I would care about my patients...but dude, seriously...if someone wants to smoke they would regardless...its up 2 them 2 stop...
nuhsenutten
May 4, 2006, 05:50 PM
I would care..Im human...but I cant stop the inevitable
Ya I would care about my patients...but dude, seriously...if someone wants to smoke they would regardless...its up 2 them 2 stop...
are u reading what u r typing if u are planning on being a doctor .......u would be the last one i'd go to.
that is possibly the worst attitude a doctor can take ....next thing u kno u druggin the patients
easyskanka
May 4, 2006, 06:42 PM
People are allowed to have children under the correct circumstances. They do not have the right to abuse those children. They also have a right to drink responsibly and to not abuse that right.
Because there is the possibility of parents and potential parents abusing children we cannot outlaw folks from becoming parents, just like we cannot outlaw alchohol because people go too far with it's usage.
A question that I would like to ask is this: If the wine had not run out at the marriage feast/celebration that Jesus attended, would he and his mother have partaken of the wine that was already there. I think I know the answer to that question.
Drink is an easy target because of the inherent side effects of it's misuse but the truth of the matter is that it has been a part of our diet since the begining of the plantation of vineyards and is one among many items that is fermented in order to achieve it's unique qualities. Many people are obese because of over eating or too much of the wrong type of foods with a lack of excercise. Food of itself cannot be blamed for obesity and all of it's associated implications. Responsibility rests with those who indulge in food and drink.
There exists good food, and good food can be further enjoyed and improved with an equally good wine. Enjoy both but be moderate in the consumption of them.
flirt
May 4, 2006, 07:39 PM
can only advise people....
are u reading what u r typing if u are planning on being a doctor .......u would be the last one i'd go to.
that is possibly the worst attitude a doctor can take ....next thing u kno u druggin the patients
root_gal
May 5, 2006, 06:09 PM
Let's all drink, smoke, have sex, do drugs and be merry cos if all of that doesn't kill us.....................some murderer or some idiot in a car will..............we r all gonna die anyway so does it matter how?
easyskanka
May 5, 2006, 07:00 PM
Let's all drink, smoke, have sex, do drugs and be merry cos if all of that doesn't kill us.....................some murderer or some idiot in a car will..............we r all gonna die anyway so does it matter how?
Are you really that naive rooty? I'm sure that you don't believe half the stuff you're saying but just in case you do...most things that are good in life takes some effort, therefore make the effort to re-evaluate your present stance and come again in a positve style. :)
root_gal
May 5, 2006, 07:28 PM
Are you really that naive rooty? I'm sure that you don't believe half the stuff you're saying but just in case you do...most things that are good in life takes some effort, therefore make the effort to re-evaluate your present stance and come again in a positve style. :)
It's called a joke man. n nothing is wrong with doing whatever u wanna do either
pogi_2nr
May 8, 2006, 10:58 AM
Let's all drink, smoke, have sex, do drugs and be merry cos if all of that doesn't kill us.....................some murderer or some idiot in a car will..............we r all gonna die anyway so does it matter how?
i'll drink to that http://www.wheelsjamaica.com/wheels_forum/Smileys/default/drunk.gif
Twinkie
May 8, 2006, 11:06 AM
i'll drink to that http://www.wheelsjamaica.com/wheels_forum/Smileys/default/drunk.gif
A M E N :eusa_pray
flirt
May 18, 2006, 04:52 PM
Next weekend Ima bout to be drunk..no wait I cant..
Im da driver
Яedz
May 18, 2006, 09:38 PM
Memorial Weekend!!!!! Nuf Alcohol!!! LAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!
Brownsugar
May 19, 2006, 07:36 PM
Memorial Weekend!!!!! Nuf Alcohol!!! LAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!
EENERGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGYYYYYYYYYYYY bullet bullet bullet............. Lawdd meh cyah wait......... yuh ready?
flirt
May 20, 2006, 06:13 PM
WEY YU GOING..LMAO....TO WORK...
:eusa_whis
Memorial Weekend!!!!! Nuf Alcohol!!! LAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!
Jae
May 20, 2006, 09:59 PM
Anybody in here live in Fla???, big Memorial Day stage show next sunday in Miami, Bicentennial Park. Nice line-up.
Brownsugar
May 20, 2006, 10:16 PM
Jae ah heard bout dat is $100 fuh tickets worth it thou! Rumors bout ah afta party ...how tru yuh know??
Jae
May 20, 2006, 10:25 PM
the 100 is VIP, 40 advance an 50 at the gate. I never went b4 but i hear the after party always wicked, so I heard dunno how tru.
http://www.memorialfest.com/
Brownsugar
May 20, 2006, 11:07 PM
Maybe yuh should go and see jus how wicked......was told, with VIP afta party is free.
flirt
May 22, 2006, 12:25 AM
THREE DAYS TILL ALCOHOL..... ;)
MEMORIAL WEEKEND...OH YES
easyskanka
May 22, 2006, 03:23 AM
Too much alcohol can lead to date rapes etc. As well as being a pleasurable and recreational past-time enlivener, drink does have it's obvious drawbacks. CONSUME WITH CAUTION AND SOBRIETY.
Nikolev
July 13, 2006, 08:40 PM
Alcohol has some really good benefits these indlude:good for socialising with other drinking friends, as a truth serum, it heightens sexual drive and sensory pleasures, it release inhibitions and its downright fun.
Smoking also is quite good for socialising, after all we are all social creatures.
Marijuana (better for you than tobacco) heightens sensory pleasures of the body, keeps you mellow and happy. Have you ever seen people smoking marijuana and fighting...no they share and are happy.
I have tried to understand the stigma associated with the so called drugs of alcohol, marijuana and tobacco. In the days when alcohol was a drug it took money and political might to have it leagalised. When the poor man used to make his moonshine it was scorned on and made illegal. Damm, Ameica has an ongoing war the 'WAR ON DRUGS'. The war is mainly on crack, heorine, cocaine, meth, E, ganja etc etc.
When the big man realised the amount of money to be made from this moonshine thing, it was legalised and called alcohol (its scientific came). Back then there was no internet, telephone and barely letters and telegrapgh for the transmission of information. So these stories and facts are unkonwn. Look at the big names involved in the alcohol trade..... even here in Jamaica.
There are some men i really love Jim (Bean), Johnny (Walker), Jack (Daniels), Jose (Cuervo), Edwin (Charley) to name a few.....and Edwin is Jamaican. My personal favourite drinks are Absolut, Ciroc, Grey Goose and dependable Smirnoff. So to my fellow drinkers, enjoy the high but expect the low... no wonder some people are always drunk....keep the high going.
Why do i drink?
BlackCryptoKnight
July 13, 2006, 09:12 PM
I have tried to understand the stigma associated with the so called drugs of alcohol, marijuana and tobacco.
When you develop some alcohol related disease or disorder, or get lung cancer, brain damage, lose your friends, family, job etc. because of anti-social behaviour, you will understand the "stigma" associated with the drugs alcohol, marijuana and tobacco.
acidblade
July 13, 2006, 09:15 PM
When you develop some alcohol related disease or disorder, or get lung cancer, brain damage, lose your friends, family, job etc. because of anti-social behaviour, you will understand the "stigma" associated with the drugs alcohol, marijuana and tobacco.
mek she know BCK :eusa_clap
Waseemah
July 14, 2006, 10:47 PM
Alcohol has some really good benefits these indlude:good for socialising with other drinking friends, as a truth serum, it heightens sexual drive and sensory pleasures, it release inhibitions and its downright fun.
Smoking also is quite good for socialising, after all we are all social creatures.
Marijuana (better for you than tobacco) heightens sensory pleasures of the body, keeps you mellow and happy. Have you ever seen people smoking marijuana and fighting...no they share and are happy.
I have tried to understand the stigma associated with the so called drugs of alcohol, marijuana and tobacco. In the days when alcohol was a drug it took money and political might to have it leagalised. When the poor man used to make his moonshine it was scorned on and made illegal. Damm, Ameica has an ongoing war the 'WAR ON DRUGS'. The war is mainly on crack, heorine, cocaine, meth, E, ganja etc etc.
When the big man realised the amount of money to be made from this moonshine thing, it was legalised and called alcohol (its scientific came). Back then there was no internet, telephone and barely letters and telegrapgh for the transmission of information. So these stories and facts are unkonwn. Look at the big names involved in the alcohol trade..... even here in Jamaica.
There are some men i really love Jim (Bean), Johnny (Walker), Jack (Daniels), Jose (Cuervo), Edwin (Charley) to name a few.....and Edwin is Jamaican. My personal favourite drinks are Absolut, Ciroc, Grey Goose and dependable Smirnoff. So to my fellow drinkers, enjoy the high but expect the low... no wonder some people are always drunk....keep the high going.
Why do i drink?
My girl yuh a living kruff.......
Nikolev
July 14, 2006, 10:52 PM
i just got to live in the moment. No time to be self righteous or inhibited. I just love the booze. I know all the effects and scientific studies and propoganda. I got a damm PhD in some damm thing from the UWI.
But i got to have my fix. For some its sexs, sports., going to the beach, partying, whatever... got to live in the momemt.
I have a high risk job, too much Jamaicans a dead round me...Who nuh get shot, dead ina car crash, bun up, stress out, whatever....
me just a gwann live my life..
By the way..i am also a strict vegetarian, exercise 4 to 5 times per week and have 2 black belts from two martial arts disciplines .. so i do take some care and i do care about my health.. but you got to have a vice..
Some of we (including my damm self) watching too much TV, we become deluded by the American influence of self righteousness, while in the back and front door all kind a perversions a gwaann.....
Inna Jamaica big chruch man a pervert pan likkle pickney long time....open church secret....i just had to bring it up....
Anyway let me pick the beam out of my eye before i pick the tiny speck out of someonelses....
I need to stop drinking... i have known this from i have sense....and that's the sad part...We all know...
Waseemah
July 14, 2006, 10:55 PM
i just got to live in the moment. No time to be self righteous or inhibited. I just love the booze. I know all the effects and scientific studies and propoganda. I got a damm PhD in some damm thing from the UWI.
But i got to have my fix. For some its sexs, sports., going to the beach, partying, whatever... got to live in the momemt.
I have a high risk job, too much Jamaicans a dead round me...Who nuh get shot, dead ina car crash, bun up, stress out, whatever....
me just a gwann live my life..
By the way..i am also a strict vegetarian, exercise 4 to 5 times per week and have 2 black belts from two martial arts disciplines .. so i do take some care and i do care about my health.. but you got to have a vice..
Some of we (including my damm self) watching too much TV, we become deluded by the American influence of self righteousness, while in the back and front door all kind a perversions a gwaann.....
Inna Jamaica big chruch man a pervert pan likkle pickney long time....open church secret....i just had to bring it up....
Anyway let me pick the beam out of my eye before i pick the tiny speck out of someonelses....
I need to stop drinking... i have known this from i have sense....and that's the sad part...We all know...
:snoring: :snoring: :snoring: good good
acidblade
July 14, 2006, 10:57 PM
I need to stop drinking
:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap yuh never say a better thing.... welcume to caribyard.cum
Bahama Mama
July 15, 2006, 03:37 PM
Is this 'Confessions parrt 2'?
ramesh
July 15, 2006, 04:37 PM
Is this 'Confessions parrt 2'?Personally speaking, I cannot see why people smoke, drink or do drugs. I have never smoked or ever did any drugs and the most I ever imbibed was a beer a month when I started working. Even that has been cut out since I've been on medication.
flirt
July 16, 2006, 11:12 AM
Is this 'Confessions parrt 2'?
hey i am flirt.. i confess the past month i had a $10US sour apple martini @ the cheesecake factory, a $10US orange mango martini @ some up scale restaurant, a glass of str8 malibu coconut rum, a sample of malibu pineapple rum....:eusa_ange
Nikolev
July 16, 2006, 06:00 PM
sweet....:icon_evil apple martini's....could have one right now..:icon_lol:
flirt
July 16, 2006, 07:46 PM
im a martini kinda girl :)
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 10:09 AM
Personally speaking, I cannot see why people smoke, drink or do drugs. I have never smoked or ever did any drugs and the most I ever imbibed was a beer a month when I started working. Even that has been cut out since I've been on medication.
:eusa_sile
I agree with the above statement!
Allergic to smoke, to broke/cheap to up-keep with the drugs intake ordeal, buh Im confessin to drinkin!
Know someone with couple drinks in her system, wonderin why her arse was captured hangin from the "Golden Arches" with a multi colored wig on, askin can she have the #6 with apple pies!:dwl: :dwl:
Manu
July 17, 2006, 10:30 AM
Define drinking! The social or binge drinker...or both?
bernie
July 17, 2006, 11:20 AM
Define drinking! The social or binge drinker...or both?
well BS and flirt are good buds and flirt gets drunk every now and again..:eusa_thin
Manu
July 17, 2006, 11:37 AM
Mi did tinks dem did related.....isn't dey?
bernie
July 17, 2006, 11:39 AM
Mi did tinks dem did related.....isn't dey?
well by homeland at least....:icon_mrgr
Manu
July 17, 2006, 11:47 AM
Mi did tinks dem a sister........ oh well.....
flirt
July 17, 2006, 12:51 PM
Mi did tinks dem a sister........ oh well.....
yes!! my family adopted BS @ birth...She was left at our doorstep and we were forced to raise her...
:jestera:
flirt
July 17, 2006, 12:53 PM
well BS and flirt are good buds and flirt gets drunk every now and again..:eusa_thin
Yes..I drink now and again! Im a social drinker, I have martinis when I go out to dinner...or Ill have Malibu str8 on Sunday while laying out in da sun! I dont drink to get drunk! Occasionally I will when Im with my Redz&BS...:eusa_whis
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 12:58 PM
yes!! my family adopted BS @ birth...She was left at our doorstep and we were forced to raise her...
:jestera:
LMFCO!!!!!!!
Still dont explain yuh adventures at the drive-thru thou sis!
Are yuh really dat LAME???!! And yuh doh see me here biggin up mehself to be related to yuh!:eusa_whis Dat must explain why.....everything the way it is?! :eusa_thin
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 01:01 PM
Yes..I drink Im a social drinker:eusa_liar
I dont drink to get drunk! :eusa_liar
I fixed it for yuh hun!
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:02 PM
LMFCO!!!!!!!
Still dont explain yuh adventures at the drive-thru thou sis!
Are yuh really dat LAME???!! And yuh doh see me here biggin up mehself to be related to yuh!:eusa_whis Dat must explain why.....everything the way it is?! :eusa_thin
we arent related...you were left at the doorstep...BS ur delusional nobody knows wat ur talking about...wats that word bernie n xeno called u:eusa_whis
bernie
July 17, 2006, 01:04 PM
look here, mi nuh want nubady mix me up!
tek unnu drinking outside, there are kids here **cough>>>acide>>>cough**
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 01:05 PM
meh nah cater wah him seh bout me, yuh actually think ah cudda been bother?
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:06 PM
I fixed it for yuh hun!
I am a social drinker...you on the other hand a secret alko....
i leave my rum in the wine cooler..come back...it half way done
always want arbor mist...drink a whole bottle n fall off d bed with yu drunkness:rolleyes:
Bernie, difference between me and BS
I know when to stop...I know when I had enough liquor
BS...just a little sip more....who be the one with a hangover at 4pm in the day...remember that time me u n redz was drinkin...:eusa_wall
Manu
July 17, 2006, 01:07 PM
look here, mi nuh want nubady mix me up!
tek unnu drinking outside, there are kids here **cough>>>acide>>>cough**
:no_spam: :no_spam: :no_spam:
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 01:10 PM
Delete dat oh else pics with yuh on them arches will soon be on there enuh?
:eusa_booh Dont test me......yuh better.....!
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:12 PM
Delete dat oh else pics with yuh on them arches will soon be on there enuh?
:eusa_booh Dont test me......yuh better.....!
:eusa_hand
:no_spam:
:no_spam:
:no_spam:
bernie
July 17, 2006, 01:13 PM
Bernie, difference between me and BS
I know when to stop...I know when I had enough liquor
BS...just a little sip more....who be the one with a hangover at 4pm in the day...remember that time me u n redz was drinkin...:eusa_wall
lol
so you are a drunk in control?! :haha: you never cease to crack me up:haha:
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:15 PM
lol
so you are a drunk in control?! :haha: you never cease to crack me up:haha:
i dont drink to get drunk....occasionally when im with bs or redz..n that was like last summer:rolleyes:
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 01:16 PM
I dont drink to get drunk liccle dutty gal! steups w.e oui!
bernie
July 17, 2006, 01:16 PM
i dont drink to get drunk....occasionally when im with bs or redz..n that was like last summer:rolleyes:
so they are the bad influenzes? I C SO....:eusa_whis
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:18 PM
so they are the bad influenzes? I C SO....:eusa_whis
more or less im an :eusa_ange
Manu
July 17, 2006, 01:20 PM
Kidz.........
:rolleyes:
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:21 PM
I dont drink to get drunk liccle dutty gal! steups w.e oui!
MUAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
flirt=:eusa_ange
BS=:eusa_ange
BS+flirt=:eusa_ange
BS+Redz=:icon_twis
flirt+Redz=:icon_twis
:eusa_shhh
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:21 PM
Kidz.........
:rolleyes:
youre only 23..two yrs older than me so...STFU:jestera:
Manu
July 17, 2006, 01:23 PM
youre only 23..two yrs older than me so...STFU:jestera:
I threw my corn...I never call nuh fowl yu chicken head!!
Besides....maturity goes far beyond age. Maybe when you're fourty..you'll grow up. :rolleyes:
bernie
July 17, 2006, 01:23 PM
see it manu? it nuh nice fill tell ppl yuh age sometime yuh nuh....
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 01:23 PM
MUAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
flirt=:eusa_ange
BS=:eusa_ange
BS+flirt=:eusa_ange
BS+Redz=:icon_twis
flirt+Redz=:icon_twis
yuh drinkin @wuk??:eusa_naug And please leave me outta yuh equation!
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:24 PM
I threw my corn...I never call nuh fowl yu chicken head!!
Besides....maturity goes far beyond age. Maybe when you're fourty..you'll grow up. :rolleyes:
STFU you claffy!! Im more mature than you....trust me...I have a sense of humor...something you are missing:eusa_whis
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:25 PM
yuh drinkin @wuk??:eusa_naug And please leave me outta yuh equation!
GO DO UR RESUME...:eusa_whis
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 01:27 PM
I done with liccle gals oui includin B! callin meh jinaal! steups!
bernie
July 17, 2006, 01:30 PM
did she jus call me a liccle gal? naw she wuddnt....
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:31 PM
I done with liccle gals oui includin B! callin meh jinaal! steups!
should i add him to the claffy list:dwl:
Brownsugar
July 17, 2006, 01:32 PM
No disrespect still hun! Typo!
bernie
July 17, 2006, 01:35 PM
should i add him to the claffy list:dwl:
you jus love me don't yah?! ;)
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:39 PM
you jus love me don't yah?! ;)
:jestera: :jestera:
yea i do:eusa_whis
Manu
July 17, 2006, 01:52 PM
STFU you claffy!! Im more mature than you....trust me...I have a sense of humor...something you are missing:eusa_whis
I'm sorry...were you trying to be funny? :eusa_eh:
flirt
July 17, 2006, 01:54 PM
I'm sorry...were you trying to be funny? :eusa_eh:
catching feelings...:dwl: :dwl: :dwl:
Manu
July 17, 2006, 02:10 PM
Look at your sig. Real mature. How old are you again? Anywas...I done talking to you. Pointless!
flirt
July 17, 2006, 02:23 PM
I love my sig..why?
:haha:
BlackCryptoKnight
July 28, 2007, 09:02 PM
Using marijuana increases the risk of one day developing a psychotic illness such as schizophrenia, according to a study that provides some of the strongest evidence yet linking the drug to a mental disorder.
Read more ... (http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20070728/talk/talk3.html)
Weed smokers beware.
gravyflex
July 28, 2007, 09:51 PM
Weed smokers beware.
My 2cents.
While I don't advocate the use of any drugs I find that there is a lot of propaganda about weed. Many things out there cause are dangerious if not used in moderation. I think that the key thing for people is to know what there limits are.
I been around many a friend who while falling over from too much to drink are still insisting that they are still in control.
What upsets me is when is hearing people say that weed makes them wiser, smarter etc.
Fact is that weed messes you up. Therefore it's foolish to to use weed if you have somthing improtant to do like and exam or a job interview.
I have a cousin that when to a job interview very high :D. A lot of persons allow alcohal, gambiling, go-go clubs and other vices to control there lives.
I know many persons who use weed daily and you would not be able to tell. Bottom line is that people should not take up what they can't manage.
To answer your quuestion however I would say that A lot of people look at life as many part to the same destination.
One of the path is rocky and hard to traverse. Some people opt to take the scenic route as death is assured so why not go out with a bang? To each is own I like to say.
BlackCryptoKnight
July 31, 2007, 06:48 PM
It still bogles my mind as to how/when drug use became something that was perceived to be so "cool" that mainstream media is promoting it. :eusa_eh:
Bye bye brain cells.
Manu
August 1, 2007, 02:49 PM
I mean the bloody thing comes with own warning label.... and yet people still smoke.
Lady_Jade
August 1, 2007, 03:23 PM
Well to add my piece- some people smoke to be with the crowd. Some drink or take drugs because of depression or stress. Then they become hooked... So they have to be constantly filling their need.
duster
February 13, 2008, 03:57 PM
I hate when people refer to ganja as drugs... people GOD no mek drugs... man does. ganja is a plant not a drug. its becomes drugs when human being change the form and add artificial things 2 it. coke & crack is drugs. ganja is a plant just like roses!
BlackCryptoKnight
February 13, 2008, 08:50 PM
I hate when people refer to ganja as drugs... people GOD no mek drugs... man does. ganja is a plant not a drug. its becomes drugs when human being change the form and add artificial things 2 it. coke & crack is drugs. ganja is a plant just like roses!
Roses are flowers, not plants.
See the definition of drug. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=drug)
a habit-forming medicinal or illicit substance, esp. a narcotic.
Ganja qualifies.
God also made rocks, but He didn't intend for people to burst people's heads with them.
Master E
February 15, 2008, 01:56 PM
Peer pressure. And the need to fit in with the crowd
duster
February 19, 2008, 09:39 AM
Roses are flowers, not plants.
See the definition of drug. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=drug)
Ganja qualifies.
God also made rocks, but He didn't intend for people to burst people's heads with them.
you just proved my point.. nothing that God makes is Bad is how you use it.
Nika_869
February 19, 2008, 11:35 AM
Oui papa. hypocrite mode : I see nothing wrong with someone who smokes Ganja, but I cannot stand cigarette smokers.
Real mode: Smoking to me makes no sense. All that smoking to calm you, you can find something else to do. Most ppl smoke and because of peer pressure or what they grew up around and found nothing wrong with either. Like one dude from S. Carolina told me, "its my culture to smoke. My momma smoked, my daddy smoked, my whole family smoked. **smh**
root_gal
February 19, 2008, 03:13 PM
Roses are flowers, not plants.
What? Sorry, but the correction nazi in me couldn't ignore this. That is similar saying a girl is not an animal, but a human.
Everything on earth was traditionally classied in two kingdoms - Plant or Animal. Other forms of classification have evolved in an attempt to further classify life forms that do not fit so easily into one of the two categories. However, I'm 100% sure that no group is making a consideration for a new kingdom known as "flower".
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