Topics and discussions

[Juliet]

This is more feedback than anything esle.

The majority nationality on CY directly affect the kinds of thread topics and responses that are produced. While conversations that are centred around Jamaican life and culture are interesting, there are times when i would like to discuss those seemingly Trinidadian cultural phenomena like the consumption of alcohol among persons of East Indian Descent, Incest in rural areas, Is Carnival inherently good or bad, Panday, Manning, passing much needed traffic laws, are Hindu persons of East Indian decent more racial than anyone else? you get the idea. There are times when my view is taken out of context simply because there is a lack of understanding of where im comimg from; responses to certain issues follow the same trend at times (again, sometimes out of context). More than anything else I am learning about Jamaican culture which is good.
At any rate, I will keep on asking my fellow Trinis and others to take a look at this site- but I think a break is approaching soon for me. I look forward to the day when Carib Yard will truly be a Caribbean Yard.
To those who created and maintain this forum-Do keep up the good work:eusa_clap

[Juliet]

If you are a guest and reading the above, please take this opportunity to join Carib Yard and bring your views to the table. I think the members of CY would appreciate it!

[Chicokid]

At any rate, I will keep on asking my fellow Trinis and others to take a look at this site- but I think a break is approaching soon for me. I look forward to the day when Carib Yard will truly be a Caribbean Yard.
To those who created and maintain this forum-Do keep up the good work:eusa_clap

:icon_arro Juliet

I agree with you on the last couple lines. I am patiently waiting for the day when Caribyard be truly a Caribbean Site and not restricted to certain countries.

I think a break is approaching me as well. When I made a comment in the "Jamaicans Hijacking CY thread", I was treated with some hostility from a certain member (not calling name) in another tread. I'm guessing the general feeling by the members was that I'm against Jamaicans but that wasn't the case.

To Chris the founder of Caribyard, thank you for creating the site nearly two years ago. Keep up the good works :)

[Gillion]

To be honest ... the conservative rules does affect CY someways ( i know people who "left" because of the tightness in control)

Second ... we need to get banners up and such in the other islands and colleges overseas

but I see your point Juliet and this was comming as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.

CY is poor in reping the other islands and it doesn't help we don't have attractions like the other sites.

Secondly ... we Yawwdies are too damn hard to handle in our "agression" which to us seems normal.

[Bahama Mama]

To be honest ... the conservative rules does affect CY someways ( i know people who "left" because of the tightness in control)

I fully support the 'conservativeness' of this site. Its what keeps the conversations from evolving into sexually explicit, defamatory, and basically uncivil commentary. I have browsed through other Caribbean forums where they are very liberal in their moderation of the sites content. As a result alot of the content boils down to cussin matches (particularly between people from different islands and outside the region), a reservoir for soft porn, and alot of useless instant messaging like banter surrounding people's sexual escapades the night before for eg. I personally would exit CY permanently if it evolved into such a forum. I dont find any interest in discussions where they get overly explicit and uncivil in a medium such as this.




Second ... we need to get banners up and such in the other islands and colleges overseas

That could work for increasing regional traffic and participation to the site.

[Juliet]

I fully support the 'conservativeness' of this site. Its what keeps the conversations from evolving into sexually explicit, defamatory, and basically uncivil commentary.


I totally agree with you here BH. Conservativeness is a must. It should mean that members are now forced to be more creative in how we express ourselves without being the above- which is a good thing.
However there are times (albeit very few) when I would like to engage in mature conversation- not on a sexually explicit, defamatory or uncivil commentary level- but the kind of conversation an adult should be able to have with other adults; something that is real, civilized and honest; the "taboo" topics as it were. Unfortunately herein lies the problem- we cannot tell who is a mature adult from who is not in this forum. So as you say, the conservativeness will have to remain in order for it not to get out of control.

[nuhsenutten]

I fully support the 'conservativeness' of this site. Its what keeps the conversations from evolving into sexually explicit, defamatory, and basically uncivil commentary. I have browsed through other Caribbean forums where they are very liberal in their moderation of the sites content. As a result alot of the content boils down to cussin matches (particularly between people from different islands and outside the region), a reservoir for soft porn, and alot of useless instant messaging like banter surrounding people's sexual escapades the night before for eg. I personally would exit CY permanently if it evolved into such a forum. I dont find any interest in discussions where they get overly explicit and uncivil in a medium such as this.





That could work for increasing regional traffic and participation to the site.
:eusa_clap :eusa_clap

[Twinkie]

I am agressive.

But I still want to be friends with the people from Grenada. I'll try to behave myself. How we gone get our banner over there??

Is Chris gonna print off some bumper stickers and send to the spice king??

[Chicokid]

But I still want to be friends with the people from Grenada. I'll try to behave myself. How we gone get our banner over there??


People from Grenada are visiting the site but are not posting because of reason pointing out in this thread: http://www.caribyard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=69190#post69190

However certain member(s) have said that "those who complain about Jamaicans hijacking threads and speaking patois should live with it"...I guess there's really nothing more I can do to move the site forward with more non Jamaican members :eusa_snoo

Notice the Trini Posse are all staying away from the site.

[acidblade]

I agree with you on the last couple lines. I am patiently waiting for the day when Caribyard be truly a Caribbean Site and not restricted to certain countries.


what do u mean by that?

[Gillion]

People from Grenada are visiting the site but are not posting because of reason pointing out in this thread: http://www.caribyard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=69190#post69190

However certain member(s) have said that "those who complain about Jamaicans hijacking threads and speaking patois should live with it"...I guess there's really nothing more I can do to move the site forward with more non Jamaican members :eusa_snoo

Notice the Trini Posse are all staying away from the site.

Just a message to carry to the people you know Chico...

If you isolate yourselves from this site, you won't come to understand more about Jamaicans' and how to deal with them.

Isolation does not improve relationships and bring about positve change.

You will continue to think negative things because you think your ways are better than ours, and you may think we think our ways are better than yours.

[Chicokid]

what do u mean by that?

I meant restricted to Jamaica, Trinidad and Grenada. These are the three countries STRONGLY represented here and the Caribbean is more than three countries.

[Bahama Mama]

I meant restricted to Jamaica, Trinidad and Grenada. These are the three countries STRONGLY represented here and the Caribbean is more than three countries.


There is also STRONG representation by the Bahamas (on my part), and Guadeloupe on the part of Gwadinka. Unless the wider Caribbean and the French islands dont count :rolleyes:

[Gillion]

The strength of representation is not just about the numbers but about the individuals who post and make their face, voice and hearts known and do not isolate themselves because there is not enough "insert island" members here.

It can't be like that.

Pioneers are needed.

When a certain Japanese website was up and running I posted frequently even though I saw no other yardies, and I wanted to learn.

On IRC I am the only jamaican on the undernet #linux channel.

Xenophobia is not a way to go forward.

As for the patois, thats only an excuse ... people can learn it if they ask we can put a dictionary on the site.

[acidblade]

The strength of representation is not just about the numbers but about the individuals who post and make their face, voice and hearts known and do not isolate themselves because there is not enough "insert island" members here.


:eusa_clap

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[Chicokid]

There is also STRONG representation by the Bahamas (on my part), and Guadeloupe on the part of Gwadinka. Unless the wider Caribbean and the French islands dont count :rolleyes:

Sorry BM...guess I forgot :eusa_wall

[Gillion]

Sorry BM...guess I forgot :eusa_wall

You forget too YOU represent grenada.

So far, good job, you got "guts" sticking it out with such aggressive people.

so you know what that tells me ?

If your a cool Grendian, then there must be more, and I wonder how I could meet and greet them ?

you get what I am saying ?

[Foxy Kay]

In my opinion, everyone has made good point regarding the matter.

What we seem to forget is action.... I will agree that almost every member on this site are Jamaicans. Each one knows each other either meeting them on this site, or a friend of a friend who lives in different parishes introduce people to this site.

Chicokid mentioned that some of his Grenadian friends visit, but don't post because it is more Jamaican oriented, but if they took the time out to sign-up and get involve they will see that we Jamaicans aint that bad and they too will eventually make friends with one of us and introduce & compare their culture with ours... one great way to do this is to start new threads/post... this is a great way of integrating others.

How can the other Jamaican or Trinidadian members creat a thread to talk about Barbados, Grenada, St. Vincent etc... if we don't really know that much about their way of life.

How can we change things if no one is willing to speak up and take action!

Don't feel threatened by us... We talk about Jamaica because we live there or was born there.

The site is called Caribyard... not Jamdownyard or T&Tyard... come on guys take action- join and introduce us to your way of life. Keeping silent wont do any good.

Therefore, Chicokid don't leave... it won't solve anything and who ever pissed u off... forget-about-it... it is not like u go to school, work or church with that person .... it is a website :) and a wonderful one too ;).

I hope whatever i said makes sense to anyone.

Chow!

[acidblade]

In my opinion, everyone has made good point regarding the matter.

What we seem to forget is action.... I will agree that almost every member on this site are Jamaicans. Each one knows each other either meeting them on this site, or a friend of a friend who lives in different parishes introduce people to this site.

Chicokid mentioned that some of his Grenadian friends visit, but don't post because it is more Jamaican oriented, but if they took the time out to sign-up and get involve they will see that we Jamaicans aint that bad and they too will eventually make friends with one of us and introduce & compare their culture with ours... one great way to do this is to start new threads/post... this is a great way of integrating others.

How can the other Jamaican or Trinidadian members creat a thread to talk about Barbados, Grenada, St. Vincent etc... if we don't really know that much about their way of life.

How can we change things if no one is willing to speak up and take action!

Don't feel threatened by us... We talk about Jamaica because we live there or was born there.

The site is called Caribyard... not Jamdownyard or T&Tyard... come on guys take action- join and introduce us to your way of life. Keeping silent wont do any good.

Therefore, Chicokid don't leave... it won't solve anything and who ever pissed u off... forget-about-it... it is not like u go to school, work or church with that person .... it is a website :) and a wonderful one too ;).

I hope whatever i said makes sense to anyone.

Chow!
:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

[Chris]

bwoy Jamaicans can be trouble when dem ready :eusa_shif oops, did I just say that? :icon_redf

[Foxy Kay]

bwoy Jamaicans can be trouble when dem ready :eusa_shif oops, did I just say that? :icon_redf

u're still dreaming:icon_lol: ... go back to sleep little :eusa_ange

:D :D

[Chris]

u're still dreaming:icon_lol: ... go back to sleep little :eusa_ange

:D :Dfi real ... I must stop eating too much heavy food before taking a nap. :icon_mrgr

[Foxy Kay]

fi real ... I must stop eating too much heavy food before taking a nap. :icon_mrgr

:dwl: :dwl: yea u should....:D

[Juliet]

I meant restricted to Jamaica, Trinidad and Grenada. These are the three countries STRONGLY represented here and the Caribbean is more than three countries.

A multitude of postings from one person or even five persons of a certain nationality (be it Trinidad, Grenada, The Bahamas, or Guadeloupe) does not mean that they are strongly represented in any way. I wish we could to a survey and figure out the true ratio that exists between Jamaica and other islands that are represented here.

[acidblade]

A multitude of postings from one person or even five persons of a certain nationality (be it Trinidad, Grenada, The Bahamas, or Guadeloupe) does not mean that they are strongly represented in any way. I wish we could to a survey and figure out the true ratio that exists between Jamaica and other islands that are represented here.
we still on this? , get over it man :rolleyes:

[Chicokid]

A multitude of postings from one person or even five persons of a certain nationality (be it Trinidad, Grenada, The Bahamas, or Guadeloupe) does not mean that they are strongly represented in any way. I wish we could to a survey and figure out the true ratio that exists between Jamaica and other islands that are represented here.

:icon_arro Juliet

I still share your sentiments, however, posting about this subject over and over doesn't solve our problems.

With that being said, I AM PUBLICLY APOLOGISING TO ANY JAMAICANS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN IN ANYWAY OFFENDED BY ANY OF MY POSTS IN RELATION TO THIS SUBJECT. With respect to my suggestion that Jamaican language be restricted to Jamaican forum, FORGET THAT RULE. DO WHATEVER PLEASES YOU.


PS: It doesn't make sense arguing...CY is dominatly Jamaican and quoting a segment from a member's post in another thread: "I suppose those who complain about whether Jamaicans are hijacking the site or speaking patois should live with it"

[acidblade]

:icon_arro Juliet

posting about this subject over and over doesn't solve our problems.
:eusa_clap :eusa_clap

[Juliet]

:icon_arro Juliet

I still share your sentiments, however, posting about this subject over and over doesn't solve our problems.

With that being said, I AM PUBLICLY APOLOGISING TO ANY JAMAICANS WHO MAY HAVE BEEN IN ANYWAY OFFENDED BY ANY OF MY POSTS IN RELATION TO THIS SUBJECT. With respect to my suggestion that Jamaican language be restricted to Jamaican forum, FORGET THAT RULE. DO WHATEVER PLEASES YOU.


PS: It doesn't make sense arguing...CY is dominatly Jamaican and quoting a segment from a member's post in another thread: "I suppose those who complain about whether Jamaicans are hijacking the site or speaking patois should live with it"

:icon_arro Chico and AB- esp. to AB:eusa_naug
Who's arguing. Am I still allowed to post responses to whatever topic there is on this forum?
Anyways, -truth be told- I agree with you- "do as thou list and as thou please".
Big up unno self!!!!

[acidblade]

:icon_arro Chico and AB- esp. to AB:eusa_naug
Who's arguing. Am I still allowed to post responses to whatever topic there is on this forum?
Anyways, -truth be told- I agree with you- "do as thou list and as thou please".
Big up unno self!!!!
WTF! i said you were "Arguing"?

[Twinkie]

We act so tuff and blah blah blah! But we sensitive no raw!

What corn mashing and wound salting carrying on in here? Listen, when in Rome do as the Romans do. I am quite guilty of thinking this is a J'can site, so I speak J'can, act J'can, but at the end of the day it is all very innocent.

This should stand as encouragement to stand out. Brownsugar is predominantly NOT JAMAICAN! It's evident in her posts etc. Maybe one and two of us should take a page from her leaflet.

[AngelsKiss]

I can't understand why this is such an issue. I agree that this is suppose to be a Caribbean site, however, if more Caribbeaners from other islands are not willing to join or post there is very little that TPTB or the other users can do. There are enough English threads so I don't see what the problem is really. The most that I would suggest is that maybe we should leave the patios to specific threads, but to ask that it be stopped is like asking that Jamaicans deny who they are.

We shouldn't get too annoyed or upset if Jamaican's use patois on the site and I doubt anyone uses it to offend others. I know I certainly don't.

As for the issue of Jamaican's hijacking a thread, I am not sure what that is suppose to mean. Does it mean that too many Jamaicans are posting in specific threads? Aren't we allowed to post in any thread as much as we choose, whether we are Jamaicans or not? I am baffled by this hijacking argument, so if someone would like to elaborate I would be interested to hear.

As to the ratio of Jamaicans to non-Jamaicans, I am almost sure that there is a large percent of Jamaicans here compare to non-Jamaicans, unless they are lying which I doubt very much. We may not all be living on our rock but many of us are Jamaicans :)

[easyskanka]

Juliet mentioned some topics that she would like to see discussed on the site. I say go right ahead and post away. If you don't raise these issues they'll not/won't be debated. Try not to worry or be concerned about the response or lack of it, just go ahead and be a groundbreaker if that is what you are or might become.

I remember you (Juliet) becoming a little irate or possibly exasperated because you once thought that I was not seeing or understanding your point of view, possibly due (you thought at the time) to differences in culture etc. This might well have been the case but at the end of the day, the common denominator is that we are both members of CY and should strive to understand and appreciate our differences without the need to fall out about those differences.

Although Jamaicans make up the bulk of the members (and their population goes some way to account for this), I often think that it is restricted to only a few places within the Island, possibly totalling no more than about 7-8 places such as Kingston, Mo'bay, St Andrews, Mandeville? and no doubt a few other places. A similar case could be made for attempts to promote CY to far more rural locations within the JA community. Manchester, St Mary, St Thomas St Catherine etc. I'd love to hear from folks spead right across the width and breadth of this diverse Island for example.

Carib Yard is still quite young and it has to crawl before it can run. However with the technology at their disposal and the talent that they undoubtedly also have, progress in filtration and permeation correctly administered should see baby CY's growth breaking forth in leaps and bounds, hopefully all for the greater good of it's members. Go CY Go! :eusa_clap

[Juliet]

This is more feedback than anything esle.



To everyone, who will ever post anything in this thread, please read my very first comment in this thread which I created quite some time ago.

:icon_arro ES- I am raising issues, and this is one of them. Selah

Please people, feel free not to respond to comments I make if it doesnt appeal to you- I do it; this is afterall only my feedback.