View Full Version : How security conscious are you?
BlackCryptoKnight
September 15, 2004, 08:07 PM
Do you feel safe? Do you think about security? Would you be able to cope if you found yourself in a dangerous situation?
Cocoa
September 15, 2004, 08:47 PM
Do I feel safe?
Physically: It depends on where I am at. ALthough I know that God walks we me. The area I work in is like a 'bad area' at night, killing, looting and shooting. I have to do massive prayers coming home late at night.
In general: I feel safe as long as Jesus walks with me BCk. This world is full up of so many different events and people that are disasterous that I can only trust in God for safety.
WHat do I think about security?
Physically: Good to have
In general: Not always effective but is a necessary precaution.
Would you be able to cope if you found yourself in a dangerous situation?
I have been in so many dangerous situations and now I know that I can cope. I always told myself that since/if I survived this one here, I can survive anything that comes my way.
If you have BAD HEART, don't read!
When I was in the military and these crazy Instructors in training chose to stimulate our 'war' experience by having us walk 15 miles in the dark with over 40 pounds on our bodies, only to hear the area was corrupted with possible 'ambushers' :rolleyes: with real weapons and grenades.
My M16 couldn't do much when you only have blanks working with here. After reaching the destination, only to be lost in the woods with a wet map in the dark and a group full of men trying to get out of this mess and also working together to fight, camouflage and hide from grenades and terrible gas that we may receive to cause injury and impair vision.
FInally getting out of that lost woods only to meet a high wall :eusa_wall that you have to learn how to 'scale' (thank God for Jamaica and fences with dogs). This was not the end of our misery knowing that we have to crawl on our faces and stomach and get our selves across a big football looking feild filled with, burnt tires, 'stimulated dead bodies', smell and sight of blood splashed everywhere (so it seemed). Smell of burnt vehicles, gun powder and gas. Colored smoke gas to impair vision, CS gas that causes muscles twitching, snooty noses, red running eyes, and stomach tightness disabling breathing. Then you crawling under barb wires only 1 foot high, back wards; crawling into mud and still doing a POW crawl and most of all, fearing your life and wishing you hadn't joined the army, because all this is scary crazy stuff. :icon_cry: Untop of all the commotion, they are firing with a tanker and a few machine guns at full speed LIVE rounds only 3-4 feet above your head as we were in formed.
If you dare walk and not crawl across this feild, or even lift up your head too high, then 'a dead yu dead'. :eusa_pray
Thank God for Jesus star or else it would not have been funny, pretty or nice, IF my mom had received a telegram of a dead soldier. Now this is one of my dangerous experiences...more than livin glife on the edge for a country and some college money.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 16, 2004, 06:21 AM
:o
Rock-stone!
Remind me not to get on your bad side :p
Drew
September 16, 2004, 08:56 AM
girl, i have to give you your props. thats is some serious sh!!.
Greatis
September 16, 2004, 10:00 AM
hmmm Jacocoabutter. I can honestly say you are one person I fear. I better put it in the things your afraid of thread.
But seriously i don't think about it too much. After all I went to Cornwall College.I endured enough wars and hold up at knife point and gun point not to be afraid of eny of the above.
Of course well least of all I was taking self defense classes.
Drew
September 16, 2004, 10:07 AM
you should post it greatis. write one for me also. :icon_mrgr
i've been held up with a knife by 2 guys once, they only got $50. ridiculous. :icon_twis
it seems i haven't been in any dangerous situations. i try to avoid trouble as best as i can. :icon_neut
AngelsKiss
September 16, 2004, 03:24 PM
Being a Jamaican I am security concious. I have been held up several times, and each time I did I fought back, stupid I know. However, when you are in the moment sometimes you just forget that it's best to just let them have whatever it is they are after, but usually my temper get the better of me. Lucky for me I have never gotten hurt. May be if they held me up with a gun instead of a knife it would be diff.
Living in Barbados and here in Canada where the crime is no where as bad as Jamaica I sometimes forget nut never for long.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 16, 2004, 04:04 PM
Would you/have you taken a self-defence class or bought weapons to make you feel safe? Do you think it would work if you were attacked?
Drew
September 16, 2004, 04:28 PM
self defence, did throughout prep school. thought about doing it again, but changed my mind. weapons, no way, i have no intentions of killing somone and ending up in prison.
Greatis
September 16, 2004, 06:13 PM
Well uhhmmm self defense has helped as recently as last week was it yeah last week. hmmm weapons mi caan badda wid too much police. There is always some weapon laying on the ground. Use your resources.
Cocoa
September 16, 2004, 06:59 PM
Would you/have you taken a self-defence class or bought weapons to make you feel safe? Do you think it would work if you were attacked?
Yes I learnt this class in military, but no form of class or security can protect you or stop the attack. May help but it bound to happen.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 16, 2004, 08:30 PM
Yes I learnt this class in military, but no form of class or security can protect you or stop the attack. May help but it bound to happen.
What style of hand-to-hand combat did they teach in the military?
Cocoa
September 16, 2004, 08:35 PM
What style of hand-to-hand combat did they teach in the military?
1. You ever seen a fowl-fight? Just like that. Woman and woman and rolling in the ground and mud, getting sweaty and ting. Choking, sitting on each other, grabbing the neck. Making legs weak behind the knee. Stopping breath. They basically taught us ways to kill with the hands. We had to use that too in the fight untill they say stop, she's dying.
2. We learnt to use the bayonet (big tick knief :0)...learning how to stab hard and good without the use of a gun and slash a yout quick to death.
This is all US Army btw.
AngelsKiss
September 16, 2004, 08:37 PM
1. You ever seen a fowl-fight? Just like that. Woman and woman and rolling in the grounds and they teach us ways how to kill with the hands. We had to use that too in the fight untill they say stop, she's dying.
2. We learnt to use the bayonet (big tick knief :0)...learning how to stab hard and good without the use of a gun and slash a yout quick to death.
This is all US Army btw.
LOL JCB...you are funny...fowl fight, omg:)
BlackCryptoKnight
September 16, 2004, 08:37 PM
1. You ever seen a fowl-fight? Just like that. Woman and woman and rolling in the grounds and they teach us ways how to kill with the hands. We had to use that too in the fight untill they say stop, she's dying.
2. We learnt to use the bayonet (big tick knief :0)...learning how to stab hard and good without the use of a gun and slash a yout quick to death.
This is all US Army btw.
Interesting... sorry fi your man if 'im stip outa line ;)
Cocoa
September 16, 2004, 08:41 PM
LOL, I had to be bad in the military. Now I am stern but nothing too serious
Interesting... sorry fi your man if 'im stip outa line
LOL.......I'm a lover not a fighter.
AngelsKiss
September 16, 2004, 08:42 PM
JCB are you still in the army?
Cocoa
September 16, 2004, 08:44 PM
NO ANgel, been out for almost a year this month.
AngelsKiss
September 16, 2004, 08:51 PM
Oh ok. Do you miss it? I am glad you are out, else you porbably would be in Iraq fighting bushs idiotic war.
Cocoa
September 16, 2004, 09:01 PM
I don't want to stray off topic, but yes I miss it sometimes. I miss days of not doing nothing but getting paid! (I learnt how to sham too)..And most of all, the genuine people you meet and their dedication to a thing. Lots of life lessons learnt.
Yes I would have been in Iraq on my unit rotation right now if it hadn't been for my injuries. But I did prepare them before they left by fixing the weapons.
Oh bother! (This is all for another thread).
BlackCryptoKnight
September 16, 2004, 09:10 PM
How safe do you all think it is for women out there today? I've noticed that ladies can't walk 2 steps down the street without some guy calling to them. Some of the guys are quite unsavory.
Cocoa
September 16, 2004, 09:22 PM
Safe? I already answered this question in the first post of this thread. I will say however, that women will be bellowed at or hissed at from now until we shrivel up.
Yes some of the guys are unsavory and so are the women too. Can't keep their eyes to themselves.
Greatis
September 17, 2004, 10:34 AM
mi tell yuh seh mi fraida Jacocoabutter.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 06:39 AM
The security industry is big business these days. Guard services, rapid response, alarm systems, roadside assistance, etc. are raking in plenty money in Ja today.
People seem to be more concerned about their security.
Cocoa
September 19, 2004, 06:43 AM
Hmm, true they are concerned, but how effective is it?
BCK, why you don't answer all the questions you asked? I would love to know what you think.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 07:02 AM
Hmm, true they are concerned, but how effective is it?
BCK, why you don't answer all the questions you asked? I would love to know what you think.
I'm sorry JCB...what were the questions again?
As for the effectiveness of those measures, I think it definitely makes some people feel safe. I know the car tracking services have yielded some well publicised results. But all this stuff is expensive. Only the rich can afford that.
Businesess will spend the money on the guards and stuff. It impacts greatly on their budgets.
Drew
September 19, 2004, 12:30 PM
it is very effective cocoa. a thief stole a car couple months ago with what one those high tech tracking devices, securty and police went to get back the car and they recovered 20 stolen vehicles. never put your eggs in one basket.
i know someone, a very rich biz man that has one of the personal bodyguards i think its guardsman elite or something like that. and because of my friends sidekick he has survived robberies and some other conflicts that he would need help to get out of.
they have been quite a few kidnappings of rich people earlier this year and these private security firms are really making some profits.
so yes its very effective, but like bck said only the rich can really afford it.
Bashment Girl
September 19, 2004, 02:13 PM
Do you feel safe? Do you think about security? Would you be able to cope if you found yourself in a dangerous situation?
I don't know because I've never been attacked yet. I will say however, I am VERY aware of my surroundings... so I guess that's how I keep myself prepared.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 06:46 PM
I don't know because I've never been attacked yet. I will say however, I am VERY aware of my surroundings... so I guess that's how I keep myself prepared.
Being aware is always a good thing. That'll help you avoid dangerous situations.
Bashment Girl
September 19, 2004, 06:52 PM
Being aware is always a good thing. That'll help you avoid dangerous situations.
For sure... maybe that's why I've lucked out in not having any. :eusa_pray Lawd kip it dat way LAWD :eusa_pray
Gillion
September 19, 2004, 07:09 PM
*gillion begins plotting on bashy *
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 07:18 PM
*gillion begins plotting on bashy *
You think she's a RoadRunner? Hope you have stock in ACME labs.
:icon_mrgr
Bashment Girl
September 19, 2004, 07:21 PM
You think she's a RoadRunner? Hope you have stock in ACME labs.
:icon_mrgr
lol hey my lawd an' saviour will kip mi safe lol...
Cocoa
September 19, 2004, 08:27 PM
I'm sorry JCB...what were the questions again?
Here they are BCK.......
Do you feel safe? Do you think about security? Would you be able to cope if you found yourself in a dangerous situation?
Would you/have you taken a self-defence class or bought weapons to make you feel safe? Do you think it would work if you were attacked?
How safe do you all think it is for women out there today? I've noticed that ladies can't walk 2 steps down the street without some guy calling to them. Some of the guys are quite unsavory. So let us hear what you think.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 08:52 PM
Ok... you meant for me to answer my own questions :icon_mrgr
duh... :p
Ok:
Do I feel safe?
For the most part yes. For me, safety comes from avoiding high risk situations and places. That plus I pray daily for the Lord to keep me safe (that helps).
Do I think about security?
Yes I do. I try to be aware of my surroundings and to know what vulnerabilities I am prone, what threats are around and what I would could do to mitigate the risks (avoid the situation, escape, manage etc.).
Would I be able to cope if I found myself in a dangerous situation?
I sure hope so, but that's one of those things you don't really know until it happens. Which is why I tend to try and avoid dangerous situations so I don't have to find out. I've been in sticky situations (fights and bullies in school) but nothing life threatening. Sometimes I came out ok, sometimes I didn't. I guess it would depend on the nature of the situation.
Would I/have I taken self defence classes?
I used to formally study martial arts (not for very long though) and I watch plenty of kickers :icon_mrgr
Have I bought weapons?
Do kitchen knives count? When I was a kid I bought one of those "Rambo" survival knives. I also have a boken (wooden Samurai training sword) and one day I hope to get a real katana. I don't walk around with any of these though, they all stay at home.
Would self defence techniques or weapons work if I was attacked?
It depends on the situation. If someone really wants to harm me, I doubt there's a lot I could do to stop them. If the opportunity presented itself, I may be able to do something. But first thing on my mind would be getting away as quickly and as safely as possible.
How safe do I think it is for women today?
Not very. I'm concerned when I here my sister or wife tell me about the amount of men calling to them and following them whenever they walk alone on the road in broad daylight. I've seen the way men stalk women on the road. It's not safe at all. But then, it's not completely safe for men today either.
Cocoa
September 19, 2004, 08:58 PM
Have I bought weapons?Yes kitchen knieves count. LOL
I had a whole bunch of weapons once. That is my area of speciality in the army as an armor. From M16s, M9, MK19, M240, M203, arms, ammunition and explosives. I have knieves now and a mitlipurpose knief I walk with in my purse. Honestly, not to use it but just to be on guard cause as you say, crazy men hollering at your wife and sister (women), and they will attack if needs be.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 09:10 PM
Yes kitchen knieves count. LOL
I had a whole bunch of weapons once. That is my area of speciality in the army as an armor. From M16s, M9, MK19, M240, M203, arms, ammunition and explosives. I have knieves now and a mitlipurpose knief I walk with in my purse. Honestly, not to use it but just to be on guard cause as you say, crazy men hollering at your wife and sister (women), and they will attack if needs be.
:icon_eek: You're a walking munitions depot :eusa_shif
Cocoa
September 19, 2004, 09:14 PM
You're a walking munitions depot LOL your funny. No I am not.
What about protection in every aspect of our lives, isn't this important?
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 09:17 PM
LOL your funny. No I am not.
What about protection in every aspect of our lives, isn't this important?
Yeah but bwoy... it's not like you one at war with a nation :rolleyes:
:icon_mrgr
Cocoa
September 19, 2004, 09:23 PM
Don't understand, I am Slowisha sometimes.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 09:26 PM
Don't understand, I am Slowisha sometimes.
I just meant that if you one had to stock up on all those weapons,the only reason would be to defend yourself against another country.
But I know you only had those as part of your military duties
:)
Cocoa
September 19, 2004, 09:31 PM
Had is a good word. Now I do not have any personal guns but just a knief. Kitchen knieves count also as well as rock stones.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 19, 2004, 09:51 PM
Kitchen knieves count also as well as rock stones and spit.
Spit...eeeuwww :eusa_sick
BlackCryptoKnight
March 5, 2009, 08:08 AM
Security Tip:
At home, keep your keys away from windows and out of sight. Thieves can use a stick or something like that to get at keys they see through the window, then open your doors and come in and rob you or worse. Same thing for any valuables (cell phones, handbag, wallet, money). Keep valuables away from windows.
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