Aristide and stuff

[kilaj1]

I dont really like to watch local news too much, at times it very depressing... :? but I am wondering whats up with Arastead, Hati's former Priminister, he still in Jamaica? Whats he going to do? and what really sparked the "revolt"?will, should, it happen in JA

[Greatis]

Well he is still in Jamaica, last thing in the news is that he will be leaving Jamaica soon for South Africa casue they have granted him asylum. Not sure what sparked the revolt though, maybe the fact that the country has not grown since his rise to leadership.

[kilaj1]

did'nt africa deny him asylem b4?

[Nastro]

:Nastro Serious:

I have heard many qualms about Mr. Aristide's Stay in Jamaica as well as the other Haitians.

Frankly the our Prime Minister has an obligation assist Haiti as he is The President of CARICOM.

For Humanitarian reason he is obligated in assisting them. Mark you he is going about it all wrong.

:End Nastro Serious:

Mi hear seh dem a "Close" friend still :lol:

[NirVana]

:Nastro Serious:

I have hear many qualms about Mr. Aristide's Stay in Jamaica as well as the other Haitians.

Frankly the our Prime Minister has an obligation assist Haiti as he is The President of CARICOM.

For Humanitarian reason he is obligated in assisting them. Mark you he is going about it all wrong.

:End Nastro Serious:

Mi hear seh dem a "Close" friend still :lol:

Why do you say he's going about this all wrong? What makes it wrong? Now don't misunderstand my questions. I'm not indirectly speaking about all that humanitarian, helping your caribbean neighbours stuff. But, are we going to condem a man to hell because he sees the world diffrently and unfortuately has the power to impose his view upon others? If so, then that sounds allot like "Bush" to me.

And even if our PM was not the president of CARICOM, I still think he'd have stepped in, because we all do some crap in our lives, and yet still people give us a chance. I think the international humiliation Aristead is currently facing as a result of this happening to him a SECOND time, plus, not having anywhere to go, is good enough punishment for the man. Besides, he ain't go stay here forever. Then again, why quarell about we providing assylum for our fellow West Indian who has obviously fallen on hard times, when we have Asians taking over our towns and small businesses, shopping at Lees Fifth Avenue when I can barely afford clothes from Maxi?

You want something to be unconfortable about, be uncomfortable about that, cuz heaven knows it's burning me up :x (that's kinda like an oxymoron :D)

Anyways, as for what caused the revolt, I figure more or less it's constantly taking from the people and not giving anything in return. We haven't gotten there yet, cuz although taxi fare is $50, I (figuratively speaking) have a DSS pan mi zink roof, nyam KFC every weeken' and have 2 cell phone pan mi hip.

How much is a cell phone nowadays btw? $4000...? :rolleyes:

[F.L.E.X]

Personally I can't believe what happened in Haiti. It's a bad president that was set and I am appalled that it's not being called a coup. If it can happen in Haiti it can happen anywhere. It's unbelievable that the USA would help to over throw a democratically elected government. We should not be surprised still because they tried to overthrow Chavez in Venezuela recently.

If you look at the similarities between Aristide and Chavez you would notice that they are out spoken about the interest of the poor. This runs counter to the aims of the elites who want to keep the status quo in place where few people belly full and the majority a hungry.

Want to see why the French wanted to get rid of Aristide?

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/haiti/7518665.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp&1c

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1159809,00.html

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2082

Former President Soekarno of Indonesia coined the term "neo-colonialism"

Read this speech by former Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad of Malaysia - he could be talking about the situation in Jamaica, Haiti and many developing countries

http://www.southcentre.org/info/southbulletin/bulletin37/bulletin37-01.htm

[F.L.E.X]

http://www.afbis.com/analysis/neo-colonialism.html

[deakie]

excellent links......particularly loved Tunde Obadina

The myth of Neo-colonialism


nice read and the malaysian pm's read was also brilliant....


we are waking up gradually....slow no rahtid doe....

[Nastro]

Why do you say he's going about this all wrong? What makes it wrong? Now don't misunderstand my questions. I'm not indirectly speaking about all that humanitarian, helping your caribbean neighbours stuff. But, are we going to condem a man to hell because he sees the world diffrently and unfortuately has the power to impose his view upon others? If so, then that sounds allot like "Bush" to me.

And even if our PM was not the president of CARICOM, I still think he'd have stepped in, because we all do some crap in our lives, and yet still people give us a chance. I think the international humiliation Aristead is currently facing as a result of this happening to him a SECOND time, plus, not having anywhere to go, is good enough punishment for the man. Besides, he ain't go stay here forever. Then again, why quarell about we providing assylum for our fellow West Indian who has obviously fallen on hard times, when we have Asians taking over our towns and small businesses, shopping at Lees Fifth Avenue when I can barely afford clothes from Maxi?

You want something to be unconfortable about, be uncomfortable about that, cuz heaven knows it's burning me up :x (that's kinda like an oxymoron :D)

Anyways, as for what caused the revolt, I figure more or less it's constantly taking from the people and not giving anything in return. We haven't gotten there yet, cuz although taxi fare is $50, I (figuratively speaking) have a DSS pan mi zink roof, nyam KFC every weeken' and have 2 cell phone pan mi hip.

How much is a cell phone nowadays btw? $4000...? :rolleyes:


Did you ever stop to question where the funds is coming from to provide for these Haitians - Nirvana? The old barracks by Montpelier is being renovate for those this side of the island, how do you think it is being financed?

Have you ever noticed the deployment of local forces (non-military) for the protection of these aliens? Yet there are some communities here that have no easy access to policing and emergency services or any form of communication to getting to one.

I am not against them being here, they the way it is being handled and the social implications to the poor set of Jamaicans.

[kilaj1]

our Prime Minister has an obligation assist Haiti as he is The President of CARICOM really did not know that...

I dont really like the way the JA gov is actually going about this situation. Yes there is the humanitarian side of it but yes look at the money them claim to be spending, these people come here with less than nothing and yet PJ and company getting them jobs and place to live?! do they even have a screening process for them? this just reminds me or the movie Scarface :eusa_wall

[Chris]

Unless I'm mistaken, I recall reading/hearing in the news that they will only be accomodated here until July at which time they will be sent back to Haiti. After they've left, the rennovated "barracks" will be handed over to several local agencies such as the The Office of Disaster Prevention & Emergency Management (ODPEM).

[Greatis]

you know one of the things I hate about this country? things only get done when we have Visitors. take montego bay for example. The fountain in Sam Sharpe Square had not worked for 1yr going two yrs, but as soon as di queen deh come dem mek the fountain wuk. now it nah wuk again, wat a calamity.

:eusa_wall

[kilaj1]

See now this is just getting out of hand. 190 Hatians arrived in the island yesterday!, close to 500?! why do I have the feeling that the ones here are calling home and "inviting" the rest of them over?

[Nastro]

See now this is just getting out of hand. 190 Hatians arrived in the island yesterday!, close to 500?! why do I have the feeling that the ones here are calling home and "inviting" the rest of them over?

When I heard I just smiled knowingly dude. People just don't listen to me...

There is more to come just watch and see.