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Greatis
September 21, 2004, 03:22 PM
Do you guys feel that hitting a female can be justified? :eusa_thin
philben
September 21, 2004, 03:26 PM
I am waiting for the honest replies.......
Bashment Girl
September 21, 2004, 03:26 PM
Do you guys feel that hitting a female can be justified? :eusa_thin
The way I look at it is no one really has the right to hit ANYONE else. To victimize a woman is WRONG for sure!
HOWEVER!!!!!!
If I, as a female, step to a man LIKE a man, in other words I decide to attack him... he had the right to come back at me with EQUAL force....
In THAT case.. it is justified. :cool:
Chris
September 21, 2004, 03:27 PM
If she's a gunwoman assaulting you then of course - it's called self-defense. Otherwise - nope.
Cocoa
September 21, 2004, 03:28 PM
If I, as a female, step to a man LIKE a man, in other words I decide to attack him... he had the right to come back at me with EQUAL force....
In THAT case.. it is justified. Yep I agree....but on no other occassion should his hand be raised.
Bashment Girl
September 21, 2004, 03:32 PM
If she's a gunwoman assaulting you then of course - it's called self-defense. Otherwise - nope.
Got my Smith and Wesson right here gun woman to the core :cool:
lol...I'm playing :p
BlackCryptoKnight
September 21, 2004, 03:45 PM
Do you guys feel that hitting a female can be justified? :eusa_thin
Do you feel that hitting anybody can be justified?
Greatis
September 21, 2004, 03:59 PM
Do you feel that hitting anybody can be justified?
Well hmmm I was reading a joke in the funny bone section and hmmm it rang a bell in the head. In primary school I had a friend who was picked on a lot by the ladies yeah cause because was rather humble. I remember distinctly this girl deciding that he was just a nerd who knew too much and she could beat him up cause he never responds when you throw insults. So she proceeded to hmmm kick him in his [censored].
he retaliated by damaging her severly. he had a cricket bat in hand. hmmm won't say anything else. decided it was a good topic.
Drew
September 21, 2004, 04:39 PM
there is no justification for one individual to hurt another (male or female). if the possibility to turn your back on a confrontation can't be avoided then and only then it is acceptable to hurt the other party so you can go your merry way.
perfect example are dogs who aren't trained to be bad. they only attack as a last resort.
for the men out there who hurt women for their own amusement, they should be beaten.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 21, 2004, 04:51 PM
for the men out there who hurt women for their own amusement, they should be beaten.
What about the women who hurt men for their own amusement?
Drew
September 21, 2004, 04:52 PM
lol, sorry wasn't thinking about that part. yea they should be beaten also.
Chris
September 21, 2004, 08:08 PM
So we beat those who beat others? Hmmm ... sounds like someone would then find a reason to justify beating us for beating others :)
Drew
September 21, 2004, 08:10 PM
so they know what it feels like on the receiving end. and hopefully they won't like it so they won't do it.
thats just wat i think.
Cocoa
September 21, 2004, 08:16 PM
Who is 'they"? Females? Well I don't play the lick for lick thing. Play fights are cool but all this abuse over nothign is un called for. I almost got kicked out of high school years ago because this C-bar youth wanted to bax me.
Hmm wouldn't have it so I retaliated....almost got kicked. But I am fine. I woul dnever raise my hand at a man and the day he chooses to do that to me, he has lost his screw and is smelling himself and therefore, this is big grounds for us to part.
Drew
September 21, 2004, 08:28 PM
@ cocoa - play fights are not cool.
y do people find it hard to walk away??
Xenocrates
September 21, 2004, 10:54 PM
:icon_arro Drew
Everyone has a breaking point. When you're pushed to that point, no matter how restrained or reserved you think you are, your id will overpower your superego and things will get nasty.
According the the Passion of the Christ, Jesus was subjected to what seemed like no end of persecution for the better portion of a day before they decided to hang him out to dry. Yet, prior to that, when he walked into a temple which had been turned into a house of merchandise, He went ballistic on their hides, and kicked butt like a shaolin priest. Now what does that tell us?
Everyone has a threshold of tolerance and a particular point at which that tolerance is weakest.
It doesn't matter how saved you think you are, or restrained, or moral, or respectful of women. When someone has managed to break your spirit to pure wrath, only God can deliver either of you from that position. Because let it be known, there's no telling what capacity you have in you, until someone has managed to break you. God forbid that someone should be a woman. Because at that point in time, it will make no difference what sex they are.
Arch_Angel
September 21, 2004, 11:37 PM
Xeno, that is quite true. I wouldn't have thought that I, Arch_Angel, would think it was ok to beat a man to a bloody pulp, until one day I got news that one of my best friends (a female and church sister) was raped by a so call "friend". Never have I felt so much anger in me. I had visions of beating this guy to death, over and over, with my bare hands. It's only God's grace that I never met him. I think God wanted to beat him Himself instead of me.
But I find myself to be a protector of women, as I hear there are waay too many men out there who beat women, for no good reason.
I can't see or understand, why these idiots would consider hitting such beautiful creatures that God has given us to keep us company on this planet. What if God took away all the women of the planet, because of the way we are treating them? I don't even want to imagine what that would be like.
MiTcHiE
September 22, 2004, 01:45 AM
Well in High school I once witnessed a guy completely whooping a lady at a bus terminus. I mean uppercuts and fists to the jaw like he was fighting for his life, he then proceeded to drag her into the bus to go who knows where. That image is stuck into my head. To hit a woman is probably the lowest a guy can go. Funny enough most of the people at the terminus just looked in awe while some laughed.
But then again there r some women that think if a guy doesnt hit them then he doesnt love them. Yep its true. This is somewhat silly to me but to each his own.
Drew
September 22, 2004, 09:09 AM
@ mitchie - thats another thing, how can people take pleasure in seeing someone beat someone else up. how can people watch wrestling and boxing.
@ xeno - well, i guess i haven't done much to anyone in my short life for anyone to cause me harm.
@ AA - a good friend of mine was raped also, i did not feel to do him any harm what so ever, because i know God will take care of the victim and the culprit. i am a little surprised at reading what you posted give how strong you are in church. but then again, you are human with feelings.
Nastro
September 22, 2004, 09:21 AM
Touchy Touchy topic. Xeno is right though. Everyone has a breaking point, a straw that breaks the Camels back so to speak.
Personally, I wouldn't hit a woman first under NO circumstance.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 09:24 AM
Personally, I wouldn't hit a woman first under NO circumstance.
Would you beat your daughter for misbehaving? That counts as hitting first
;)
Nastro
September 22, 2004, 09:32 AM
Would you beat your daughter for misbehaving? That counts as hitting first
;)
heeeheehheee ok you got me there.... wait no you didn't get me.
I said "hit a woman" , Abi a likkle pickney!!! :p
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 09:35 AM
heeeheehheee ok you got me there.... wait no you didn't get me.
I said "hit a woman" , Abi a likkle pickney!!! :p
:icon_mrgr
I should then change the title of the thread to "Hitting Females..."
:p
Kitten
September 22, 2004, 10:07 AM
you can hug me, touch me, feel me, cuddle me. :) But no hitting. No I dont like this at all. To me that man is a Punk. Plan an simple. And he must be simple if he puts his hand on a woman. NO NO! :eusa_snoo
Nastro
September 22, 2004, 10:17 AM
Kitten .... would you hit a man ?
Xenocrates
September 22, 2004, 10:19 AM
A_A - I know EXACTLY how you feel, because I was in a similar circumstance. It seems a number of us have had such experiences with people in the church eh?
For me it was much closer than just a female friend. She was my cousin. She was practically my sister, the way how we were close. The good thing is that she's not the type of girl to take anything lying down (no pun intended). Let's just say that the pastor can no longer father any children, nor can he service any women for as long as he lives.... unless he can get another organ surgically re-constructed....
But I like the way you ended your piece A_A. You touched on something EXTREMELY important. Let NONE of us as men EVER say that we would NEVER beat a woman. You don't know what your breaking point is. You don't know what deep dark hidden monster lies inside your id. You simply don't know. We as God fearing people should first say: "If not for the Grace of God..." before we disclaim any probability that we could commit any wrong-doing. No matter how opposed to it we are.
Women can be VERY provoking. Most men would simply walk away or go hang out with his brejins. But what if she WON'T let you walk away to cool off your head? What if EVERYWHERE you go, she followed you around and provoked the living sanity out of you? What if she followed you to the very ends of the earth and broke you like a little girl, not giving you a moment's rest? What would you do then? Walk away?
I will bring one name to you: Orenthal James Simpson.
O.J. was not known as a woman beater. In fact, O.J. in his early life was known as the gentle giant. Whenever he and his first wife had issues, he simply walked away. He would NEVER lay a hand on her. His peers called him a Gentle Giant for a very good reason: His personality was that of a passive-reclusive, until he was on the football field. He and his wife had kids. But throughout their marriage, it was VERY rocky. In all the years he was married to her, he NEVER lay a hand on her. Not ONCE. Not EVER. NEVER. Woman beating was just NOT him.... or so he thought...
When he divorced her and married Nicole Brown, he had taken upon himself a monster of biblical proportions. Nicole Brown had many clashes with O.J. throughout their marriage. But one thing Nicole Brown was known for, is her insatiable tenacity. She just WOULD NOT QUIT.
If O.J. walked out of the house to get a smoke after an argument, she followed him outside, and continued it out there.
If O.J. went to a friend's house to get away from the argument, she called the friend's wife, THEN came over, and continued it there.
If O.J. flew to Japan and sat in the mineral bath there to cool off, she flew to Japan and found out where he was staying, and continued it there.
If she couldn't find him, she messaged him, she called repeatedly, she left messages with his agent, she became the most annoying thing in the universe.
Then in one of their arguments, she called him a N*gger......
.....that was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.
Xenocrates
September 22, 2004, 10:22 AM
O.J. was forsaken by the black community because he had more white friends than black. In fact, at the time, he was the ONLY black person to live in the white communities in California. White people of america LOVED O.J., because he was a "gentle giant", a humble, respectful, non-ignorant, highly intelligent, well-spoken black man. But NONE of them had EVER called him a N*gger...
...that was the first time he EVER hit a woman. That was the first time ANYONE had ever pushed O.J. over the edge. When his ex-wife (who is black btw) heard that O.J. beat Nicole, she was SHOCKED, because she said, and I quote:
"...that's not the O.J. I married. That's not the O.J. that I know. I bet it's because of that white b*tch he took up onto himself - trying to be some god damned Oreo..."
Can you imagine being a black man living in white america, married to a white woman who calls you a N*gger in a heated argument? :icon_eek:
How would YOU react especially after all that she had done?!
Now let me ask you a simple question:
Given that O.J. simpson was nicked named "The Gentle Giant" by his peers because of his personality, do you think it would have been possible that O.J. could have beat a woman? NO ONE EVER THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE! Not even O.J.!!
But it happened!
Now I'm not advocating that Nicole be beaten to a pulp, nor am I advocating his murdering her (or being responsible for her murder at least)...
...but there is a moral to this story:
NEVER say that "I would NEVER beat a woman... EVER". You don't know what your breaking point is. As reclusive and reserved as you think you are, as holy and saved you think you are... you are STILL HUMAN.
Instead we should say: "By the Grace of God, I would NEVER hit a woman". That is why we have the following scripture:
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast.
You can't disclaim any sin or wrong doing by your own will. It is by the Grace of God. Thank you Arch_Angel for making that known.
Kitten
September 22, 2004, 10:33 AM
Kitten .... would you hit a man ?
I dont like this hitting bizness. I dont hit unless I have to defend myself. :eusa_snoo
Kitten
September 22, 2004, 10:39 AM
Thats nice you went to the bible with the scriptures. We all no that it is humanly possible. Because we are not perfect human beings and we are capable of anything, because of that. So that is why people should not be surprised, when they hear about these things happening. But they always are because they always look at that person in that way. They always look at that person as being perfect. Its just like the pastors and priest. People always look at these people like they are perfect. Dont they?
Xenocrates
September 22, 2004, 10:44 AM
Yes they do. It's a narrowminded human fault we are all guilty of. These people are under a great deal of pressure to live a certain type of life, exemplified for all to see. But we have to bear up these people in prayer all the time, because human nature is a terrible, TERRIBLE thing. No one is exempt from falling under the strain of human nature. The will of one's id is almost impossible to suppress under extreme circumstances. That's why Christ died people. Cuz he knows the limitations of human nature.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 10:46 AM
Sure we're all capable of doing terrible things, but the question posed was whether hitting a woman could be justified - meaning are there situations in which it is ok. The scenarios Xeno layed out to me don't necessarily justify hitting a woman. Sure the man may be provoked verbally, and nagged, and annoyed, but violence is still not justified.
The only time violence is justified is in situations where you are defending yourself or the lives of others from an attacker.
If someone is annoying, harrassing, verbally abusing you, you still have the choice to deal with it without resorting to violence. Can you snap and hit someone out of anger? Sure it's possible. But it isn't justified unless you were defending yourself or someone else from a physical attack.
TRUBBLE
September 22, 2004, 10:48 AM
Oh boy...all i can say is that some women are very rude and fiesty, and they do do alot or things to get a man agitated even to the point that they will also hit the men first...so in my opinion yes!!!...A man should try to avoid hitting a woman, but some women just like to get up in your face..so yes!!
Xenocrates
September 22, 2004, 10:57 AM
:icon_arro BCK
No violence is justifiable. But there is always a provocateur. Always.
:icon_arro Trubble
I concur.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 11:00 AM
:icon_arro BCK
No violence is justifiable. But there is always a provocateur. Always.
Indeed. And the person who provokes anger and violence is definitely in the wrong.
philben
September 22, 2004, 11:23 AM
I like the honest answers that I've seen. However there are men who beat women, what would be going on in those situations?
Xenocrates
September 22, 2004, 11:50 AM
:icon_arro philben
Some men are just bullies. Plain and simple. Men have an over active ego. Some of these men are so ignorant, that if a woman threatens their self-delusive "dominant" position in the equation, they figure she requires beating. This is the case about 70% of the time. Usually it happens after being in a drunken stupor.
Other men have psychopathic disorders. They simply cannot co-exist with females. Their fuse is extremely short, and personally, I think these men are demon-possessed. A good example is Tommy Lee (ex-husband of Pamela Anderson). He beat her whenever she disagreed with him on some issue. Period. Thankfully, Pamela Anderson is not a dumb-blonde (as exemplified by Nick Lasché's wife, Jessica Simpson). Pamela left him en-pronto, almost the instant he became abusive.
The second type of woman-beating man is rarer, but more dangerous. It is this type of male who usually ends up killing their wife - usually, but not always. This type of male is usually extremely promiscuous. Being the rock star that Tommy Lee is, women have formed lines in front of his trailer when on tour just to have sex with him. So his mentality has denegrated to a point where he has little to no respect for women.
(This is part of the reason why I am a firm believer that some things are best reserved for marriage.)
But anyway, I sincerely believe that in these cases, it's merely a factor of abuse of power.
Real power, is not the ability to use it wantonly and indiscriminately, but the ability to restrain such usage, even when it seems most fitting.
The trick is, real strength can only be found in God. If only most men could realise that.
That's why I believe any union between a man and a woman should first start with God. It's hard to go wrong when you start from above. Nuh true BCK?
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 11:54 AM
It's hard to go wrong when you start from above. Nuh true BCK?
True dat :eusa_clap
philben
September 22, 2004, 11:57 AM
What about those in the church who exibit this behaviour?
Greatis
September 22, 2004, 11:57 AM
hmmm Xeno I almost about to say you stole my words. I was about to write the same thing about OJ a while ago. oh well great minds think alike.
but anywayz I like the way this thread has moved. Ok so let's ask this question? What do you think about my friend that got hit in the nuts and almost mauled that girl thereafter. (pls keep in mind that all the time he was doing that he was crying and saying "I can't take this anymore" over and over again.).
Now what do you think of me who stood there and watch him almost beat her to pulp while drinking an orange juice? Yes I did nothing until it reached a point where I thought he was getting out of control.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 12:00 PM
What about those in the church who exibit this behaviour?
People are people. Nobody is perfect, even in the Church. It's no secret that there are people in the Church who are not of God. They don't really have God in their hearts, but keep up the facade. When you truly have God as the focus in your life, it's much harder for evil thoughts and actions to be a part of you.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 12:05 PM
hmmm Xeno I almost about to say you stole my words. I was about to write the same thing about OJ a while ago. oh well great minds think alike.
but anywayz I like the way this thread has moved. Ok so let's ask this question? What do you think about my friend that got hit in the nuts and almost mauled that girl thereafter. (pls keep in mind that all the time he was doing that he was crying and saying "I can't take this anymore" over and over again.).
Now what do you think of me who stood there and watch him almost beat her to pulp while drinking an orange juice? Yes I did nothing until it reached a point where I thought he was getting out of control.
The girl had no right to pick on him that way. The poor guy snapped. I feel sympathy for him. Like I said before, once people start getting physical with you, you have a right to defend yourself. If she hit him where it hurt, and felt she could get away with it, she'd do it again. I bet she won't be trying that stunt with him anymore. :eusa_snoo
I can relate to that, having experienced a similar event in my childhood.
philben
September 22, 2004, 12:07 PM
BCK,
Xenocrates said "It's hard to go wrong when you start from above" , assuming these men did that - what is the gurantee I have that a man like that wont try to beat/abuse?
Greatis
September 22, 2004, 12:10 PM
BCK,
Xenocrates said "It's hard to go wrong when you start from above" , assuming these men did that - what is the gurantee I have that a man like that wont try to beat/abuse?
You have no gaurantee at all philben. It's a matter of getting to know your partner well.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 12:16 PM
BCK,
Xenocrates said "It's hard to go wrong when you start from above" , assuming these men did that - what is the gurantee I have that a man like that wont try to beat/abuse?
Everybody gets tempted at some time with something. I can't give any guarantees as to how anyone is going to deal with the temptation that comes their way. What I do know, is that the Bible says:
James 4:7 KJV
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jesus, by coming to earth as a human like us, showed that it was possible, with God's grace, to resist temptation. It's up to us individually to have that relationship with God that would give us the strength to resist the temptation to do wrong.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 12:18 PM
Remember also, that everybody makes mistakes. Which is why forgiveness is so important. The difference between couples who have God as a focus and those which don't is that when mistakes are made, and things are rough, those with God as the focus have the strength to better weather the storm.
philben
September 22, 2004, 12:20 PM
I see your point, thanks. There are other questions , but I'll leave it there for now.
BlackCryptoKnight
September 22, 2004, 12:21 PM
I see your point, thanks. There are other questions , but I'll leave it there for now.
No prob. :)
Xenocrates
September 22, 2004, 12:24 PM
BCK,
Xenocrates said "It's hard to go wrong when you start from above" , assuming these men did that - what is the gurantee I have that a man like that wont try to beat/abuse?
I never said it was impossible to go wrong. People start off with God and people DO loose focus. The trick is not starting the race, it's finishing it. Because as BCK has already eloquently put it:
People are people. Nobody is perfect, even in the Church. It's no secret that there are people in the Church who are not of God. They don't really have God in their hearts, but keep up the facade.
The important part is where where they keep up the facade. In the church I used to worship, there was a married deacon in there who had over ten women in his life - simultaneously. There's no doubt that he started in the church. But if your focus is lost, there's no telling what you can be capable of. I did say earlier that a pastor almost raped my cousin.
The dude was a pastor for heaven's sake. :eusa_eh:
This deacon did everything from speak in tongues to preach. So you see, the cover of holiness doesn't necessarily mean that you will be holy, or that you won't beat a woman. It's the focus on God that will prevent that - and it goes for both men and women.
A woman in a marriage built on God won't provoke her husband to wrath.
A man in a marraige built on God won't hurt his wife, or beat her at all.
The man in the marriage is SPECIFICALLY commanded to love his wife like he would love himself. If a man beats his wife, then by extension, he has no self-respect. That is the reason why I said earlier, that if the union begins with God, it is difficult for it to go wrong; so long as the marriage continues to remain on the same infallible premises on which it is built.
philben
September 22, 2004, 12:36 PM
Good words Xenocrates, thanks again
Greatis
July 9, 2005, 01:09 PM
With all this hitting female talk I believe this thread needs to be revived.
Manu
July 9, 2005, 02:48 PM
You all know my stance on it. If you want, you can bring the posts here and direct the discussion here!
Gwadinka
July 10, 2005, 12:55 PM
Of Course and why not rape her, or force her to sell her body?
It's simple the only man who ever hit me was my dad and he stopped doing so for ten years. Trf I don't see why a man who didn't raised me, who didn't help me/make me who I am should have the right to act as if he was responsible for the person I am by hitting me.
babyj
July 12, 2005, 04:37 PM
Men who hit women probably did not take their medication because obviously they are on something.
Nastro
July 12, 2005, 11:30 PM
I tell my lady friends.....
"You know me, and you know I am not fond of breaking promises. I do promise never ever to hit a woman........................................first ."
Trickster
July 12, 2005, 11:45 PM
Of Course and why not rape her, or force her to sell her body?
It's simple the only man who ever hit me was my dad and he stopped doing so for ten years. Trf I don't see why a man who didn't raised me, who didn't help me/make me who I am should have the right to act as if he was responsible for the person I am by hitting me.
I more than agree with you and seeing that my dad has never hit me, I dont see y any man should
Bahama Mama
July 13, 2005, 04:10 PM
hmmm Xeno I almost about to say you stole my words. I was about to write the same thing about OJ a while ago. oh well great minds think alike.
but anywayz I like the way this thread has moved. Ok so let's ask this question? What do you think about my friend that got hit in the nuts and almost mauled that girl thereafter. (pls keep in mind that all the time he was doing that he was crying and saying "I can't take this anymore" over and over again.).
Now what do you think of me who stood there and watch him almost beat her to pulp while drinking an orange juice? Yes I did nothing until it reached a point where I thought he was getting out of control.
If woman is going to hit a man in his crotch, she will have the time to run, becasuse he will be doubled over in pain, and probably cant move. But woe onto the woman that stays, she has just unleashed the devil. Some of my male friends say that is just the worst place to take a blow, and the perpetrator will get more than they bargained. Though I must say that it is the perfect place to aim your blow if it is in self defense.
nuhsenutten
July 13, 2005, 04:44 PM
think most guys who fight with girls expect them to go for that spot and take a step back just in case....seeing as they normally have longer arms
Manu
July 13, 2005, 06:04 PM
hmmm Xeno I almost about to say you stole my words. I was about to write the same thing about OJ a while ago. oh well great minds think alike.
but anywayz I like the way this thread has moved. Ok so let's ask this question? What do you think about my friend that got hit in the nuts and almost mauled that girl thereafter. (pls keep in mind that all the time he was doing that he was crying and saying "I can't take this anymore" over and over again.).
Now what do you think of me who stood there and watch him almost beat her to pulp while drinking an orange juice? Yes I did nothinguntil it reached a point where I thought he was getting out of control.
LOL....yute....until he was getting out of control? So what was he doing before? :eusa_eh:
Anyways....I've been hit in the nuts several times (playing sports) and trust mi...it is probably only rivaled by labour. When you get hit in the nuts, it's not only your nuts that hurt. Your head, your tummy, you groin, your butt....the whole works. Everything just clenches and pulses. My sister does karate. She fired a front kick at me once... so I just blocked it....but I thought she would've pulled the kick. When I felt the impact of her leg on my hand I ondered...suppose I didn't block. Suppose I was slow? Suppose I didn't have a little training myself so that I even knew how to block a front kick?
If I snap and mauled the girl then it's not my fault. I have no conscious thought whatsoever. Ladies, I emplore you, unless it is self-defence....like you're going to be raped.....NEVER HIT A MAN IN THE JEWELS. If he ever catches you, I doubt if even your dental records can identify you :icon_eek:
g2cris
July 13, 2005, 08:33 PM
To the question posed. YES.
Liquid Bunny
August 8, 2005, 03:31 AM
confession : :icon_cry:
i hit women ....... :eusa_shif :rolleyes:
Jae
August 8, 2005, 08:57 AM
I've had personal experience with the whole 'hitting women' scenario. Let's just say I'm extremely bitter about the issue, and woe unto the man who believes he can put his hand on me and get away with it, instant death or even worse grievious bodily harm (cuz he will suffer for the rest of his life-I'll make sure of that). :icon_evil :icon_twis :mad:
acidblade
August 8, 2005, 09:06 AM
I've had personal experience with the whole 'hitting women' scenario. Let's just say I'm extremely bitter about the issue, and woe unto the man who believes he can put his hand on me and get away with it, instant death or even worse grievious bodily harm (cuz he will suffer for the rest of his life-I'll make sure of that). :icon_evil :icon_twis :mad:
well in that case i hope you not a man beater
Jae
August 8, 2005, 09:15 AM
well in that case i hope you not a man beater
HELLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I'd never put my hand on anyone unless it's necessary(self defense or disciplining a wayward child :icon_arro even that I don't like to do).
virus_ncu
August 8, 2005, 09:35 AM
Good thing i know self defense. I can defend myself agains women like you who trying to defend themself from me. :D
rreky
August 8, 2005, 09:54 AM
You know... most people will say "If that happens to me I will do this..." and you'll just never really know until it does happen. Chances are you could be so scared you don't know how to react especially if being hit is something you were never exposed to. The first time, chances are you prolly will be so much more emotionally scarred than physically hurt.
Jae
August 8, 2005, 10:09 AM
Good thing i know self defense. I can defend myself agains women like you who trying to defend themself from me. :D
U better recognize!!!!!!!!!! :icon_mrgr :icon_mrgr
Xenocrates
August 8, 2005, 10:54 AM
Note to self: Don't play Mortal Kombat™ with Jae. End Note
Jae
August 8, 2005, 10:57 AM
:icon_mrgr :icon_mrgr AWWWW GUYS C'MON I'M THE SWEETEST NON-VIOLENT PERSON YOU COULD FIND :icon_mrgr (WITHIN REASON OF COURSE!!! :icon_evil )
Xenocrates
August 8, 2005, 10:59 AM
Note to Self: Let Jae win. :End Note
Jae
August 8, 2005, 11:01 AM
LOL LOL LOL :icon_mrgr :eusa_shhh
Cocoa
August 9, 2005, 11:43 AM
Note to Self: Let Jae win. :End Note :rotflm:
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Madhacker
August 9, 2005, 01:50 PM
nah lie still if a smaddy kick me in ma nuts male/female better run run very very far I will kill u no seriously :)
No man shouldnt beat a woman I think its wrong but some woman just damn provoking.
I had a friend his girl is one of the worst kind likkle loose girl go around having sex with any guy that can give her money. she even had sex and tell everybody about her exploit even when she has her boy friend ( ma bredrin). She was at another guys house having sex ma bredrin went where she was she sent him home ( this dude make guys look bad). Ok she beats him almost every week she even beat him with her panties (wet panty)which I beleive is very humiliating
One day she hit him he snaped he grab dat skank and beat the crap out of her she got the first lick she frighten she in shock when she done cry she crying how him wicked trust that was streight up redemtion I say she should a get dat whooping loooooooooooong time
Liquid Bunny
August 9, 2005, 04:26 PM
She deserved that still... bet u she stop dat bull now
gucci man
August 11, 2005, 09:57 AM
dont hit and stab har wid a knife, ram and bang her...like u wife!~!!!
some woman too bright though, more time when them a cuss u athem way bax bax and lick lick you.
Try to walk away might work some time, but some other time u haffi run!!
Xenocrates
August 11, 2005, 02:49 PM
Or you can study Tai Chi Kwan. That way, you can block her attacks, and redirect her forward energy. She'll think twice before hitting you, since she will fall down most of the times. :D
Liquid Bunny
August 11, 2005, 02:59 PM
Or you can study Tai Chi Kwan. That way, you can block her attacks, and redirect her forward energy. She'll think twice before hitting you, since she will fall down most of the times. :D
yea or he could do that... :rolleyes:, thats a much better approach i suppose
only Xeno :eusa_wall
gucci man
August 12, 2005, 07:52 AM
lol .
nuhsenutten
August 12, 2005, 11:08 PM
this raises the topic of women abusing men ......hard to believe but it happens ......wonder y we dont hear of many instances thou ?
acidblade
August 12, 2005, 11:16 PM
cause men can't report it to the police because of fear of being laughed at
Liquid Bunny
August 13, 2005, 12:50 AM
Thats sad tho caz u have some real vicious women out there man .... take Jae for example :)
i just felt like botherin u a lil Jae... i'm done now
virus_ncu
August 13, 2005, 08:31 AM
Yea, Cat Fight!
remeber bunny says she hits women. :D
nuhsenutten
August 13, 2005, 08:51 AM
lol...................... virus u turn instigator now ?
Brownsugar
July 21, 2006, 11:56 PM
Good thing i know self defense. I can defend myself agains women like you who trying to defend themself from me. :D
:eusa_thin
this is ah rather crazy statement!:eusa_snoo I dont agree with it!
BlackCryptoKnight
September 14, 2008, 05:53 AM
Can't we all all just get along?
Manu
September 14, 2008, 08:46 AM
I read through this thread and there are some interesting points. I reiterate that a man should never hit a woman. I've hit a woman once in my life. When I was younger. She boxed... pretty hard and I smacked her back. She started crying and I felt like ****. A little later... when she recovered... upon entering the class... she let me have one... so much so... my ears rang. I looked at her... me all getting all teary... and smiled and walked away. We became good friends after and even had a little "boyfriend-girlfriend" thing for a while. I was 7 years old. When I was about 18 years old... I had a real provoking girlfriend. She did not know when to quit. One day while were playing a round... it got a bit serious. I noticed it and tried to stop it. She wouldn't. She got a police baton and kept hitting me with it. Each time she increased the force she used. Then started hitting me on my knee... and just wouldn't stop. I got my stuff and was leaving... she came outside and started hitting me even more. I got so upset I grabbed her throat. She grabbed mine... and started to squeeze.... cutting off my air... so I squeezed hers even more... till she started to gag and it was ONLY then I realized what I was doing. I try my very best not to hit a woman because I don't know what I'll do. I've been guys to pulps and bloodied my knuckles. I've had broken fingers over it. I know how to break a face well. I can also take a lot of hits so if you pass the threshold... you're really asking for it. I even had a girlfriend bite once... so hard that it lasted for 3 weeks. The pain and the marks. I try to live by the code to never hit a woman. Run if I can... just avoid it because I may seriously harm her or worse. Thank God I have a woman who doesn't resign herself to hitting men.
Under most circumstances, women only hit men because they know the man won't hit them back. Very few hit because they lose control. Some women really deserve it but if we all got what we deserve, most of us wouldn't even be alive.
gucci man
September 16, 2008, 07:25 PM
I read through this thread and there are some interesting points. I reiterate that a man should never hit a woman. I've hit a woman once in my life. When I was younger. She boxed... pretty hard and I smacked her back. She started crying and I felt like ****. A little later... when she recovered... upon entering the class... she let me have one... so much so... my ears rang. I looked at her... me all getting all teary... and smiled and walked away. We became good friends after and even had a little "boyfriend-girlfriend" thing for a while. I was 7 years old. When I was about 18 years old... I had a real provoking girlfriend. She did not know when to quit. One day while were playing a round... it got a bit serious. I noticed it and tried to stop it. She wouldn't. She got a police baton and kept hitting me with it. Each time she increased the force she used. Then started hitting me on my knee... and just wouldn't stop. I got my stuff and was leaving... she came outside and started hitting me even more. I got so upset I grabbed her throat. She grabbed mine... and started to squeeze.... cutting off my air... so I squeezed hers even more... till she started to gag and it was ONLY then I realized what I was doing. I try my very best not to hit a woman because I don't know what I'll do. I've been guys to pulps and bloodied my knuckles. I've had broken fingers over it. I know how to break a face well. I can also take a lot of hits so if you pass the threshold... you're really asking for it. I even had a girlfriend bite once... so hard that it lasted for 3 weeks. The pain and the marks. I try to live by the code to never hit a woman. Run if I can... just avoid it because I may seriously harm her or worse. Thank God I have a woman who doesn't resign herself to hitting men.
Under most circumstances, women only hit men because they know the man won't hit them back. Very few hit because they lose control. Some women really deserve it but if we all got what we deserve, most of us wouldn't even be alive.
Hats off to you. But some women could beat some men to a pulp before they even get to walk away/run
http://www.womenswrestlingxposed.com/photos/2impact091108.jpg
mead
October 8, 2008, 03:52 PM
I have a thing about anybody putting dem hand inna my face. So if a gal box me, I'm going to box har back. Simple as that.
j_anno
October 12, 2008, 10:53 AM
Well for one I will never hit a woman, but to tell you the truth some women deserve to be hit.
Trust me.....
As in s_e_xually...hmm if they like it i am in for it...LOL
gucci man
October 13, 2008, 02:01 PM
Well for one I will never hit a woman, but to tell you the truth some women deserve to be hit.
Trust me.....
As in s_e_xually...hmm if they like it i am in for it...LOL
yeah, i generally do it once across the butt cheeks and if they say do it again i know... they like it
mystiqueone
December 4, 2008, 07:51 PM
Athough some women deserve it. its just best to walk away
Manu
December 4, 2008, 08:42 PM
Oh yes... walk away. I've now resorted to form of reprimand. Not even grabbing a woman. It can be just as traumatic to a woman's psyche. Only difference from beating or hitting is the scars.
mystiqueone
December 5, 2008, 11:14 AM
well that good I agree with you
BlackCryptoKnight
May 2, 2009, 08:29 PM
According to the police, during a heated exchange of words, the boy was slapped in the face.
It is said that the boy walked away but was reportedly attacked a second time and was stabbed in his back.
Read more. (http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20090502/news/news1.html)
Never turn your back to an attacker (unless you are executing a self-defence technique like ippon seio nage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoeSFLNeEPE))
Male or female, an attacker is an attacker. Nuh mek nobaddy stab yuh eena yuh back! Defend yuhself!
I said it before, and I'll say it again, if a woman attacks me, I will defend myself. She will get hit if the opportunity presents itself.
mead
May 3, 2009, 09:41 AM
Read more. (http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20090502/news/news1.html)
I said it before, and I'll say it again, if a woman attacks me, I will defend myself. She will get hit if the opportunity presents itself.
Well said, for some reason I thought Christians were woosies who would do a manu and turn the other cheek or run away, now I know better :)
I'm not sure if manu is trying to impress anybody 'round here with his "man should never hit a woman" and "Run if I can..." argument, it's all bull*.
Man should learn to control their anger and be able to defend themselves at the same time, instead of making excuses about fear of losing control, if anybody, woman or otherwise hit you should be able to defend yourself and not run like a punk and give excuses...
You're not been a gentleman if you refuse to hit a woman if she's attacking you. You're just been a idiot, especially in these dangerous times when people are using guns, acid and knife when attacking people.
BlackCryptoKnight
May 3, 2009, 01:34 PM
Well said, for some reason I thought Christians were woosies who would do a manu and turn the other cheek or run away, now I know better :)
2 "If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; 3 but if it happens [a] after sunrise, he is guilty of bloodshed ... Exodus 22 v2-3 NIV
Man run een 'pon yuh, and yuh sort him out, that's self defence - yuh good. Man do you something, an run weh, den yuh hunt him down lata, and sort him out, dat's pre-meditated murder - straight prison/judgement.
I'm not sure if manu is trying to impress anybody 'round here with his "man should never hit a woman" and "Run if I can..." argument, it's all bull*.
Man should learn to control their anger and be able to defend themselves at the same time, instead of making excuses about fear of losing control, if anybody, woman or otherwise hit you should be able to defend yourself and not run like a punk and give excuses...
You're not been a gentleman if you refuse to hit a woman if she's attacking you. You're just been a idiot, especially in these dangerous times when people are using guns, acid and knife when attacking people.
Nobody should be violent toward anyone - male or female. But, if someone attacks you or somebody else, you have the right to defend yourself and others. What you do to defend yourself will depend on the nature of the threat. You should use only the necessary force appropriate for dealing with the attack.
Some people act as if women are incapable of hurting a man. Rubbish. Women can be lethal. They may use different tactics, but they are just as capable of causing physical harm as men. So never underestimate a woman. They will use the "don't hit a woman" thing to their advantage and kill you if you are not careful.
Running is a valid self-defence technique. If you can run and avoid confrontation, that's often the best option. But if that's not feasible, make sure you're the last man/woman standing.
Manu
May 6, 2009, 12:13 AM
Well Mead, it is a testament to the type of person I am and the type of company I keep. Still will not hit a woman. If I'm die by being stabbed in the back by a woman, it's God's will and I'd rather die like that than live in shame for hitting a woman. Whatever works for you. Not impressing a soul. You must be able to defend yourself without striking a woman or physically harming her. Even if you call me an idiot when I'm stabbed in back and die, how would that affect me? I know at least 3 persons who would be proud of me, my loving mother, sister and my girlfriend. That's all that matters.
Cheers!
mead
May 6, 2009, 02:21 PM
Well Mead, it is a testament to the type of person I am and the type of company I keep. Still will not hit a woman. If I'm die by being stabbed in the back by a woman, it's God's will and I'd rather die like that than live in shame for hitting a woman...
Seriously now, you really believe what you just typed above?
Dude, your thinking on this issue is really bizarre, are you telling us that you would rather die than to hit a woman in self defense? If you truly believe that then your mind is more warped than I originally thought. Furthermore if you feel that hitting a woman in the act of defending your OWN life is somehow shameful, then clearly you don’t place much value in your own life.
Also I don't think this has anything to do with "God's will", it's all about your own choice. You choose not to defend yuh self and get stab up.
Anyway if you would rather get beaten, stabbed or worst yet killed like a punk because you want to uphold some old value system that has no place in modern day, then a your business that still.
BlackCryptoKnight
May 6, 2009, 06:50 PM
There is no shame in defending yourself or others.
If a woman attacks my family I will defend my family appropriately, without apology or shame. If I stand by and allow somebody, be it woman or man, to harm my family, when I could have done something to defend them, then I would be ashamed.
CyberCat
May 7, 2009, 12:21 PM
Hmmmmmm..........
I am starting to wonder about Manu and his sanity.
Manu
May 8, 2009, 03:52 PM
Still say there is a way to defend yourself without HITTING a woman. And so what if I value that one piece of value that was taught to me and live by it? Compromises are what break societies. When you forget basic principles and laws because "they have no place in the modern world". Makes you wonder if modernization is a way forward or a step backward.
To each their own.
BlackCryptoKnight
May 9, 2009, 08:34 PM
There are other self-defence techinques other than hitting. You can throw, apply joint locks, or chokes. But hitting is usually faster, and easier to do. In some situations it is the most appropriate response. When you are fighting for your life, limiting your toolset puts you at greater risk.
Scenario:
Woman walks up to man, pulls knife and attacks man with knife. They're in room and she's blocking the only exit. He can't run away. How should he defend himself?
Scenario:
Woman grabs a machette and attacks a man. They're in a room with 1 exit, and she's blocking the exit. The machette is well sharp. How should he defend himself?
Scenario:
Woman pulls a gun and moves to takes aim at a man. He too has a gun. He sees her intent. He has a chance to act in his defence. Running won't help though, as it's clear line of sight all round, and he will get shot in the back if he tries. How should he defend himself?
Scenario:
Woman is a 3rd degree blackbelt in <insert martial art here> and is 5ft 10" and about 160 lbs. She launches an attack on a man, and she well vexed. They're in a room with 1 exit and she's blocking the exit. How should he defend himself?
Scenario:
A woman picks up a 2x4 and moves to hit your 5 year old child in the head with it. The child can't run or defend him/herself. You have a chance to stop the attack. What do you do?
Arch_Angel
May 10, 2009, 01:08 AM
I'll take the manu route...and go to heaven. :eusa_ange
ramesh
May 10, 2009, 01:37 AM
I'll take the manu route...and go to heaven. :eusa_ange
Hopefully not earlier than should have been......
http://www.doubleactionchl.com/images/GunWoman450pxlorez.jpg
BlackCryptoKnight
May 10, 2009, 10:22 AM
I'll take the manu route...and go to heaven. :eusa_ange
Who says that route will take you to Heaven?
Arch_Angel
May 10, 2009, 01:25 PM
Who says that route will take you to Heaven?So what's the point of going manu route if I not going to Heaven?
strewps :eusa_snoo
Manu
May 10, 2009, 09:17 PM
Don't find your self in either scenario BCK. God will never give you more than you can bear. So far, I have not been a situation where my life depended on hitting a woman and to that I say thank God.
Malloc-X
May 11, 2009, 07:38 AM
u guys over thinking this. if ur life or safety is in danger, doesnt matter if its a man, woman or dog. u have to defend urself. and if i have to defend my self by hittin a woman i would do it and i wont feel bad after, i might even enjoy it.
CyberCat
May 11, 2009, 03:38 PM
u guys over thinking this. if ur life or safety is in danger, doesnt matter if its a man, woman or dog. u have to defend urself. and if i have to defend my self by hittin a woman i would do it and i wont feel bad after, i might even enjoy it.
That's what i keep thinking.
I wonder if Manu would react the same way towards a man
BlackCryptoKnight
May 11, 2009, 11:07 PM
u guys over thinking this. if ur life or safety is in danger, doesnt matter if its a man, woman or dog. u have to defend urself. and if i have to defend my self by hittin a woman i would do it and i wont feel bad after, i might even enjoy it.
You come een like seh yuh nuh need no excuse ...
Dat nuh right. :eusa_naug
Manu
May 12, 2009, 11:16 AM
Yute... I nuh romp fi kick a man's ***. Man try rob me already and get him beat down. I don't play with them. I'll die fighting than let them exploit me.
A woman would not come up to me and just shoot me unless is mistaken identity or robbery. If I have a chance to clear my name saying I'm not the person then I wouldn't need to fight. If it's robbery, then she's obviously desperate and I'd try and talk to her. If she is hellbent on killing me even after I give her my money then I try and subdue her but I can't hit her. I just can't because I will kill her. I am sure of it. So I try my best to refrain from hitting.
I don't mix with bad company, male or female so really and truly, I don't get myself in those situations. It all boils down to the company you keep and your faith in God. I'm not the most christian person but I pray and ask for protection and I'm still here so until that day, I'll keep praying and keep sticking to my convictions. Nah lick nuh ooman. If she cum fi beat mi girl...still nah lick har. Mi get in between and protect my girl and even hold her mek my girl do the licking but I won't. If you're a guy or girl, if it reaches a point where I'm going to hit you, I'm not going to hold back and very few women can take a hit from me.... very few dudes too.
CyberCat
May 12, 2009, 04:41 PM
Me woulda call you a racist, fascist, sexist or somthn......
But me nuh feel dat dems words is enuff to describe you.
BlackCryptoKnight
May 12, 2009, 07:54 PM
What's the difference between hitting somebody, and immobilizing somebody so someone else can hit them? :eusa_thin
ramesh
May 12, 2009, 09:52 PM
Every time I see this thread, I remember the movie "Romeo must Die" where Jet Li refused to directly hit a woman so he used Aliyah instead. :D
Arch_Angel
May 12, 2009, 10:33 PM
Every time I see this thread, I remember the movie "Romeo must Die" where Jet Li refused to directly hit a woman so he used Aliyah instead. :Dlol yeah I remembered that specific fight scene too.
Manu
May 13, 2009, 09:02 AM
Cos it's not the hitting of a woman I'm against.... I'm against cowardly men (if you hit a woman u are weak and a coward) hitting women. If a girl hits my girl... I will allow to beat the **** out of the other woman but I won't lay a finger on her. Just my psyche. Just my way of doing things. Besides, seriously.... me hitting a woman is unfair. I'd have to gauge my punches... and as long as I have control to limit the force... I feel I should have enough to not hit at all!
crushed@caribyard.com
July 23, 2009, 03:50 PM
I believe hitting a woman is wrong, however if a woman hits a man i dont see anything wrong with him defending himself
muga
September 8, 2009, 12:27 PM
Lol this is a real funny post. If man beat woman him a abuser,if woman beat man and him no do nothing him a sissy lol. Woman c man wid next woman she fi box him cause him wrong now man see woman wid next man and box har prison him gone. As long as no woman no touch me she cris cause even neuton's law states that for every acting There's an equal but opposite reaction. Arguement close!!!
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