Do You Believe Jesus Was Black?

[InkyP1]

Do You Believe Jesus Was a Black Man? There are so many different images of Jesus and most of them are not as he is described in the Bible. So do you believe that he was not white and some other race?


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[AngelsKiss]

The Bible clearly states that Jesus is a Jew. Based on what we know of today's world, it would suggest that he was not white since Jews are not considered to be white, even if they are from Europe.

Now on a personal level, I couldn't careless if Jesus is white, black, blue green or pink. What counts for me is what he represents, the Son of God and the Saviour of mankind!

[Nastro]

Revelation (I think ;) ), describes him has having bronze skin.

I just have to work with the bible.

[Drew]

no matter what colour He is, He is still Jesus.
does it really matter what He looks like?? i know it doesn't for me.

[Cocoa]

Like the song says...."doesn't matter what colour He was, just as long as His blood (that He shed) was red). :D

[Nastro]

To some extent it does matter. If something as simple as his race can be purely misrepresented (wether intentional or otherwise), what say his teachings?

There are races still currently at war because of religion and they worship the same God!!!

[BlackCryptoKnight]

To some extent it does matter. If something as simple as his race can be purely misrepresented (wether intentional or otherwise), what say his teachings?

There are races still currently at war because of religion and they worship the same God!!!

This may be so, but the colour of His skin bears no impact on the message He preached or His status as the Son of God. If people chose to focus on something as insignificant (whether it is misrepresented or not) then they are missing the point. Satan likes to throw distractions around so people lose focus on those things which are really important.

[Nastro]

Let me prove something....

what is important?

[Kitten]

Everyone is kind of straying away from the question and not really answering it. And given other opinions about your feelings and religious beliefs. But the point of the matter is. Is your Jesus black or white. Jewish, Arab. ect. I believe he was not a pure white man. A bronze an the type of hair would me some ethnicity to me. For me to say I dont care to me is saying that Im not really interested in knowing who Jesus was. Of course, looking at accepting him as who he is wether he be black, white, yellow is right. But I still would like to understand how people visualize him. And get a reasoning behind that outlook. I think that was the basis of the question. Why do you believe he is a certain way.

[Nastro]

hhmmm..... Kitten if I said black couldn't that also suggest ethnicity?

I opt to stick with the color that I have read. This will give you my view on how I view him and that is BRONZE.....the color ;)

[AngelsKiss]

Everyone is kind of straying away from the question and not really answering it. And given other opinions about your feelings and religious beliefs. But the point of the matter is. Is your Jesus black or white. Jewish, Arab. ect. I believe he was not a pure white man. A bronze an the type of hair would me some ethnicity to me. For me to say I dont care to me is saying that Im not really interested in knowing who Jesus was. Of course, looking at accepting him as who he is wether he be black, white, yellow is right. But I still would like to understand how people visualize him. And get a reasoning behind that outlook. I think that was the basis of the question. Why do you believe he is a certain way.

Some one saying that they don't care about Jesus' colour is not about not caring about his ethnicity. It's about accepting him for what he represents irrespective of his race.

When God decides to talk to us about our sins, I doubt he will be interested in having a conversation about Jesus' racial background. :)

[Zoley!]

I think he may be brown and Im not trying to get into a debate. Just answering the question. Its a good question. I have no facts to base it on im only going by what was in the Bible. May I ask was this a topic at church Inky.

[Kitten]

Nastro you are the winner! out of all the people who answered the question. You answered the question. You read it and gave your answer. I think if this was a test alot of people would have failed. And you would have gotten 100% because you just gave the answer like the question asked. I just goes to show you how people listen and think.(lol) that includes me too. :eusa_thin

[Bashment Girl]

Because of his place of birth Jesus could not have been white! :cool:

[Drew]

sounds like its a problem for you guys if Jesus is white.

[Bashment Girl]

sounds like its a problem for you guys if Jesus is white.

Not a problem... rather an impossibility! Look at what the people who where born there... a white guy? That doesn't make sense!

[Xenocrates]

It's true.

The early Jews were not caucasian. Thing is they were not black either. The early eqyptians were a subtle mix closely resembling the negro and pseudo-caucasians. When the Jews went and lived down there in Goshen, there was a lot of intermingling before they were made into slaves. Hence if there was any kind of caucasian blood running in their veins then (which I doubt), it was severely watered down.

The Jews of today which are not living in Israel have remingled with the arryan race of caucasians (Germans, Swiss, Russian, Polish, Dutch etc.) and those within whichever country they currently abide.

The Jews currently in Israel are NOT caucasians. They are what are pseudo-caucasians - not quite the same thing as the British and American peoples. Their skull structure and skin pigmentations are quite different. The growth of the hair, eyes, ears and nose is also very different.

Therefore, Jesus was not white, but he wasn't quite black either.

Either way, this type of question is presumptious in nature, and only serves to provoke unnecessary discussion about his heritage on earth - which means nothing really, since Jesus is actually a spirit that took on the appearance of sinful man to save the world. His ethnic background does nothing to make any particular race any more significant than another. Which is why this question was originally concocted (I'm not referring to the thread starter, I'm referring to the person who came up with this idea in the first place, hundreds of years ago).

[Bashment Girl]

Maybe some people think he was white with blonde hair and blue eyes because they feel that THAT is perfection... therefore, when the son of GOD was delivered to the virgin Mary, her race was irrelevant. He was born white skin, blonde hair, blue eyes.

I don't know any other explanation for believing he could have been born white.

[Cocoa]

Now its a color issue?
*JCB sings..."doesn't matter what color you are, as long as your blood was red".....tune fades out in the background. :D

[Kitten]

Some one saying that they don't care about Jesus' colour is not about not caring about his ethnicity. It's about accepting him for what he represents irrespective of his race.

When God decides to talk to us about our sins, I doubt he will be interested in having a conversation about Jesus' racial background. :)


LMAO!! :icon_mrgr

[Xenocrates]

I don't know any other explanation for believing he could have been born white.

- The same reason why everyone thinks that Egyptians were also white:

The Renaissance people.

Michaelangelo's depiction of Jesus Christ (the one you see on those older calendars and in Catholic churches) with the long hair and the blue eyes has popularized everyone's notion of what he might have looked like. The painting has nothing to do with actuality. It was merely an artist's impression.

It's also the same way we have come to think of Angels with wings. That was Raphael's fault. When he decorated the grand cathedral in the Vatican of Rome, he conceptualised angels as baby-like creatures, all feminine in nature, and with wings. That was over half a century ago. The painting was such a fantastic work of art, that everyone started copying it, eventually maturing the angels into tall men with a feminine face. Again, angels don't need wings and they never had them to begin with - and I sincerely doubt that even if angels had a sex, that they'd seem female... and I seriously doubt that angels were baby-like in appearance either. The notion was popularised by Raphael's artistic impression.

[Bashment Girl]

Now its a color issue?
*JCB sings..."doesn't matter what color you are, as long as your blood was red".....tune fades out in the background.

No it isn't all about colour but I think this is a very interesting conversation to hold. I see people worship Jesus, know his place of birth, but have trouble accepting the fact that he had to have been at least olive or brown because of his lace of birth and nationality.

Why is that?


- The same reason why everyone thinks that Egyptians were also white:

The Renaissance people.

I like your point about the Egyptian because if you look at pop culture they're never dispicted the way they look when you see a real Egyptian person. I mean the most popular image of Cleopatra is Elizabeth Taylor :eusa_thin

Yes you are right about how it became popular I just wonder why, in 2004 people are still in denial about something that should be common knowlage.

Scientist have examined the "Adam & Eve" theory and say that there actually was. In Africa... so why do people have trouble seeing religious ICONS as people of colour?

[Xenocrates]

Well, to put it as shortly as possible:

1. The world was relatively one continent in the beginning.

2. The atmosphere was temperate all around the world

3. The races of mankind today are a disemination of the first race of mankind.

When you separate a biological sample from it's original specie in a new environment, over several generations of interbreeding, the dominant genes in that group will rise to the top and become ubiquitous for all members of that group. The end result is a new species.

In the beginning, mankind was one race. When the incident at the tower of Babel occurred, mankind was separated into several groups which wandered into different regions of the earth. As these groups interbred over several generations, the same principle described in the above paragraph occurred. That produced a single race for each group of people in the different regions of the earth.

Therefore, the first people on earth, were neither black, nor white, nor asian nor indian. The first race encompassed every single race that now exists on earth. If you can imagine what a man or woman would look like if he was a mix of Indian, Chinese, Black, and White races, then you will have a very good idea of what the first people looked like.

What's funny, is that all around the world (especially in Jamaica) we're slowly going back to the first race of mankind.

That's why people of mixed races seem so pleasing to the eyes. ;)

[Bashment Girl]

That's why people of mixed races seem so pleasing to the eyes. ;)

Maybe for some but I tend to be attracted to dark men. WHY? I just think they're gogeous. Especially if they're cut. Built.. mmm well I will not corrupt this thread BUT you know what I'm saying lol :p

[Xenocrates]

I've seen some girls bout the place for whom I could not put a finger on whether they're black, white, chinese or what...

...and believe me, they are some of the most gorgeous females I've ever seen. I'm not alone. But every rule must have its exceptions as we are not all created alike.

Thank God. :D

[Bahama Mama]

THREE PROOFS THAT :

JESUS WAS MEXICAN:
1. His first name was Jesus (Mexican Version)
2. He was bilingual
3. He was always being harassed by the authorities

JESUS WAS BLACK:
1. He called everybody "brother"
2. He liked Gospel
3. He couldn't get a fair trial

JESUS WAS JEWISH:
1. He went into His Father's business
2. He lived at home until he was 33
3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin, and his Mother was sure he was
God

JESUS WAS ITALIAN:
1. He talked with his hands
2. He had wine with every meal
3. He used olive oil

JESUS WAS A CALIFORNIAN:
1. He never cut his hair
2. He walked around barefoot
3. He started a new religion

JESUS WAS IRISH:
1. He never got married
2. He was always telling stories
3. He loved green pastures

[Drew]

lol, that was a good post bahama mama.

[AngelsKiss]

JESUS WAS A CALIFORNIAN:
1. He never cut his hair
2. He walked around barefoot
3. He started a new religion


LOL...Rastafarians would probably say he was one of them http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_30_2v.gif

[little warchief]

hmmmmm jesus was a jew yes and i never heard of a black jew ! so most likely he would'nt be less than light brown.....unless Mary was a black woman.... hmmmmmm unless mary was white but then God would be a errrrrrrr......***sighs*** nope unless mary was a black lady !

[Malloc-X]

he was a jew and jews aren't black

[Chicokid]

he was a jew and jews aren't black

Someone told me an interesting theory to support that Jesus was black.

Remember when Jesus was born, King Herod tried to have him killed because the Three wise men told him that they saw a star from the East and were looking for a King. Now, Mary and Joseph took baby Jesus to Egypt to hide baby Jesus. Egypt is a land of black persons.

Therefore, if Jesus was white, it would have been impossible to hide him in a black country without anyone noticing the "white" stranger

Just my pennies :)

[duster]

hmmmmm jesus was a jew yes and i never heard of a black jew ! so most likely he would'nt be less than light brown.....unless Mary was a black woman.... hmmmmmm unless mary was white but then God would be a errrrrrrr......***sighs*** nope unless mary was a black lady !

Check ethiopia nuff falasian jews, south african have one whole heap of black jews. read up on it. enlighten yourself. read up on operation solomon.

[duster]

here is my take on this. color of Christ no really matter. hIs purpose on earth was more important than the color of his skin. If you were drowning would you care if a white man or a black man try fi save you? no! but if you search history you will see that christ had nuff mix blood inna him. the region in which he was born would suggest that he is dark skinned; his migration to egypt also suggest him dark. the prophet ezekel saw a vision of christ having the features of an african male so did john in revelations. look at jesus relatives also. Haile sellasie is a decendant of david check how him look he should look a little like christ. sellasie wasnt jet black neither was he white but dark. dont let the pic of christ mek you view him as white read the word of God and have your own image. if you want to see jesus look in the mirror thats him. dont reduce the messiah to a 8.5 by 11 false pic. so that said christ wasnt "jet" black but he wasnt white that for sure so dash way unnu false jesus off the wall.

[tiffany]

He may be black, because It may be possible that the Jews is Israel didn't resemble the ones living there now- due to migration and such. Also, there are black jews i.e. the black hebrews Bobby n Whitney visited few years ago.. He may or may not be black..

P.S., notice how certain whites view the images of a white Jesus, or a white God, and in turn feel a sense of supremecy. ......

one!

[duster]

The Bible clearly states that Jesus is a Jew. Based on what we know of today's world, it would suggest that he was not white since Jews are not considered to be white, even if they are from Europe.



Being a Jew in Bible days was your religion not your Color. Jesus was a Jew not a Christian!