Does looks matter?

[Cocoa]

I know this is one of the 'relationship' question, but it is something I want to know from y'all before I stray in the 'broken-heart' thread.


I know if a guy meets a size 4 he probably doesn't want to marry a size 14... but come on... doesn't love mean anything to people?

Does looks matter to you? :eusa_thin (male/female)

[Chris]

As they say, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What you're asking about "looks" is all relative to the individual looking on.

[MiTcHiE]

Well if ur asking if I would get with an ugly girl, then my answer would be yes. But if u asked if I would c her on the rd and approach her then my answer would be no.

But if its someone I know then looks shouldnt matter at all.

[Kitten]

Yes looks do matter to alot of people. But its individual preference and what you might like someone else may not. I dont really go for pretty boy type and I say that because im not lookin at a person just for looks. I have friends who are attractive and not so attractive and they all go through basically the same dating problems. So I guess it doesnt matter if your good looking.

[Xenocrates]

Yes it matters... and don't ever think that it doesn't. People won't become physically attracted to someone who is not physically attractive. All that "I don't care what you look like" is highly relative and usually counts for naught. People who say that are often hypocritical. They just don't want to hurt feelings. Cuz if you don't got it on the outside, you better damn well got it on the inside. So you bet your bank account that it matters.

One thing that I have noticed though:

People who got it on the outside take it for granted, and don't work on the inside.
People who ain't got it on the outside, work their *****es off on the inside, or else...

Ofcourse, every rule has its exceptions. When they occur (however rare), wow, the package itself is worth the price of admission alone.

[Cocoa]

I agree with what you all have said. Looks does matter or else I would not be attracted to GuyA over GuyB. I would not talk to someone who in my mind is not attractive and their personality is a no--no.
Ofcourse, every rule has its exceptions. When they occur (however rare), wow, the package itself is worth the price of admission alone.True words.....that queen is priceless!

[Greatis]

Of course looks matter. There is no question about that. As Xeno said if you deny that looks matter you're being hypocritical.

[Drew]

ok, so should i bother to say that it does matter. but it does.

[Bashment Girl]

Does looks matter to you? :eusa_thin (male/female)

To me they matter but they aren't all that counts. I think people should take care of them selves in general and look HEALTHY. I will admit that when it comes to men I have a weakness for FACE BWOYZ lol.. :rolleyes: How they treat me is more important though. I will also admit to being sort of image conscious in general though. Whether it's my car, clothes, or cell phone. I'm not obsessed with image but I like to "come correct".

[Gillion]

ohh admit it... YOU ALL LOOK FOR THE PRETTY PEOPLE.

[Xenocrates]

....and this ladies and gentlemen is the type of hypocritical commentry I've been talking about. G, you're talking as if pretty people have never caught your attention. :D

[Gillion]

i love pretty people :D

[Xenocrates]

I'm just messing with you G. :D

Beauty is an irresistable thing. When a beautiful person walks by, it's hard not to stare - no matter how composed you are.

[Drew]

what do you guys and gals consider good looking?? or pretty people as you're calling it.

[Gillion]

Pretty yes ? ?
http://imagesavers.com/040926/1096220375.jpg

this is standard in my book.

don't think you can handle beyond standard.

--my appetite is rich.
gillion

[Gillion]

she's a from trinidad..... now you know why I want to go there :D

[Xenocrates]

:eusa_droo yeeesss...Indian-Central...


...or could it be that they are strategically placed to receive no Hurricanes?

[Gillion]

i no care :) :) :)

http://s.a.cnn.net/si/features/2004_swimsuit/images/athletes/popups/serena02b.jpg

then there is florida... hurricane central.... serena lives there....

[Xenocrates]

Serena? What about Anna Kournikova?

[Bashment Girl]

i love pretty people :D

Me too! In general! You know what I love? I love going some where and me and my friends look BOOM! Memba dat! lol... For real though we roll up looking righteous and I love when everybody at the spot looks good too! Nice vibes lol... that's vanity isn't it lol :rolleyes: Oh well :cool:

[Gillion]

then there is japan
http://elt.cha.to/KaoriMochida001.jpg

kudasai !!!

[Gillion]

Serena? What about Anna Kournikova?


(1) I preffer non european women...
(2) She has no real skill in her claim to fame.
(3) I don't like blonds.... can't stand them.

[Xenocrates]

Dude, so what do you think of this Japanese super model?

http://www.cfnism.com/j_beauties/pix/girls/Rena_Tanaka_index.jpg

That's beauty right thur...

[Xenocrates]

(1) I preffer non european women...

- Dude... Russian chicks aren't standard issue european women. They (and the Swiss) are the purest form of caucasian you will find on earth! They're the Arryans!


(2) She has no real skill in her claim to fame.

- That has nothing to do with her ...well ...other blessings. Quite frankly I don't care either way. Would you have thought Serena was any good (beauty-wise) if she wasn't good @ Tennis? I think Serena is a little too muscular for my taste.


(3) I don't like blonds.... can't stand them.

- LMAO :icon_mrgr Fair enuff dude! To each his own! ;) (Curse you Pamela Anderson! A thousand Barneys upon thee!)

[Gillion]

yes.... but usually... they bony... I don't really like non-caribbean models... too bony...

you notice I am vocalising my prefferences of WHAT I LIKE and WHAT I DO NOT ?

everybody does this in the back of their minds

until maybe they get to know the person... and then the mind does an amazing warp

the person who doesn't fit your physical bill.. suddenly becomes visually satisfying.... you get me ?

Then there is the Yardie in me.... can't get enough of this one !

YUMMMY !!!

[Bashment Girl]

Dude, so what do you think of this Japanese super model?
...

Where's he Indan Miss Universe? You don't think she's pretty?

Anyway hot guys? hmmm let me think...

*pic removed *

I mean since you guys have something to look at I though it was only fair :D

[Gillion]

I Am A Caribbean Man !! Sue Me !!!

[Xenocrates]

Umm.... G... let's keep the pics a little less... umm... "wholistic" shall we? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Xenocrates/Smilies/riiight.gif

Bashment, spend a few seconds in Google's Image search and you should be able to come up with some good, clean hits. :)

[Gillion]

Darius of persia was an aryan which means aryans' were persians'. Which I doubt are anything like those bleach white people we see who claim to be aryan... as if it means anything. Arya, was another name for persia as stated by Darius himself.

[Gillion]

the male form is so boring... and hideous... except mine :)

[Bashment Girl]

Bashment, spend a few seconds in Google's Image search and you should be able to come up with some good, clean hits. :)

Is where ya tink mi get dat one fram eeh? lol... Anyway that one IS clean!!! What's the difference between the bikini girl there and my LL? G. That bikini girl looks sad, like somebody upset her.

Hey you know who else looks good? Boris Kodjoe from Soul Food the series. You'll also remember him in Love and Basketball.

[Xenocrates]

There are Aryan Indians (like Ramesh) Aryan Caucasians (like Anna & the Russians, Swiss, Dutch) Aryan Persians (Like the Saudi Arabians, Israelis, Palestinians) etc. It's an athropological term used to describe a race which has a distinctive subset which has a paler complexion. It's a lot more complicated than that (skull shapes come in play as well), because mulattoes are not Aryan Negroids. But you get the idea. ;) The term has since been adapted for modern anthropological classification.

[Zoley!]

I think it matters, but when you are in love with someone. You dont seem them as ugly or maybe even what maybe hideous to some people. I know that american men have a problem with fat women. My mom for instance is healthy and my dad loves her to death. But she has some single friends who are the same way and they are very lonely. Because no man wants them because they are to fat to american men. So it is hard for them to meet a man and they are not ugly. I think this is really a shame that people look at people a certain way and not look at who the person really is.

[Gillion]

her face... umm... did I notice her face ... hmmm let me think... yes... for a second or two

[Gillion]

the term aryan has also been balckened by hitler and his minions

I don't like it much...

I also tend to dislike anthropolgy into the races of man.... it is a waste of time... personally I am dying to see the day when no single person will be indentifiable racially... the caribbean is the first seed of this.

[Bashment Girl]

her face... umm... did I notice her face ... hmmm let me think... yes... for a second or two

lol... well she looks CROSSE, ANGRY, MISERABLE! lol :cool:


I think it matters, but when you are in love with someone. You dont seem them as ugly or maybe even what maybe hideous to some people. I know that american men have a problem with fat women. My mom for instance is healthy and my dad loves her to death. But she has some single friends who are the same way and they are very lonely. Because no man wants them because they are to fat to american men. So it is hard for them to meet a man and they are not ugly. I think this is really a shame that people look at people a certain way and not look at who the person really is.

I agree that once you have the opportunity to get to know a person, they can become attractive for different reasons apart from their physical apprearance. However... if a person is not attracted to someone who is less than the status quo's ideal woman.... then that opportunity may not arise.

I will say something about looks though! How a person looks CAN be an idication of their HABITS or traits. Not necessarily WHO they are. For example a guy that's fit, and enjoys being active wants a compatible mate that enjoys the same quality of life right? A woman that is big maybe a nice person, but doesn't reflect an interest in the same lifestyle.

[Xenocrates]

It's true Zoley. Americans have a serious thing against being round. And it's not even up to the genuinely overweight level. Why, up until J-Lo became famous, the distinctive round bottom was shooed by the press...

...now that's she has lost quite a bit of her fame (breaking up with Ben Affleck and remarrying Marc Anthony) round buttocks are not "in" anymore.

:icon_arro Bashment Girl

I can't see your pic @ all. In any event, I don't think men are "beautiful". Women are far more sophisticated creatures. It's kinda like comparing an 18-wheeler to a BMW 7-series. There's so much more class, and refined texture to a BMW. You get what I mean? Women are such beautiful creatures, that even other women (who are not gay) still admire the female form.

[Xenocrates]

the term aryan has also been balckened by hitler and his minions

I don't like it much...

- That's true. I can't argue with that.


... personally I am dying to see the day when no single person will be indentifiable racially... the caribbean is the first seed of this.

- Right you are. We will eventually generate a perfect example of what the first people looked like. :D

[Gillion]

lol... well she looks CROSSE, ANGRY, MISERABLE! lol

yep... true... and my chinese bredrins will say... that is oppertunity to make somebody happy.

[Bashment Girl]

:icon_arro Bashment Girl

I can't see your pic @ all. In any event, I don't think men are "beautiful". Women are far more sophisticated creatures. It's kinda like comparing an 18-wheeler to a BMW 7-series. There's so much more class, and refined texture to a BMW. You get what I mean? Women are such beautiful creatures, that even other women (who are not gay) still admire the female form.

Well let's see... I think it was for the ladies.... lol I'm happy that you find women more attractive than men though! lol.. :icon_lol:

[Kitten]

Well Bashment I guess you are right about the lifestyle thing. But I would say in general that not all men are into physical fitness. So I dont think that all of them are just looking at the women because of that. I think that alot of them will talk with a women but they tend to go along with what other people do and think. Thats one way to look at it.

[Gillion]

kitten hit the nail on di head !!!!!!!!!

some men are actually worried about the women they dat becuase of what their boys will think

[Xenocrates]

I agree that once you have the opportunity to get to know a person, they can become attractive for different reasons apart from their physical apprearance. However... if a person is not attracted to someone who is less than the status quo's ideal woman.... then that opportunity may not arise.

I will say something about looks though! How a person looks CAN be an idication of their HABITS or traits. Not necessarily WHO they are. For example a guy that's fit, and enjoys being active wants a compatible mate that enjoys the same quality of life right? A woman that is big maybe a nice person, but doesn't reflect an interest in the same lifestyle.

- I could not have said it better myself. That's why physical appearance is SOOO important! It should NEVER be underestimated.

It goes also into how you present yourself. Me for example, I'd never be caught dead talking to a girl who feels comfortable walking half naked on the road. I just feel that the female body is such a precious thing, even if you want to show it off, be modest about it. Show enough, but not too much. I don't want to be able to figure out what she looks like naked by just seeing her on the street. Nah. That's a no-no for me.

Women who lack modesty, will walk the street in the über-tiny miniskirt, ones with ridiculously high splits (up to the waistline?!?) or without a proper top (a stylish bra is not a top). Modesty attests to a certain type of personality. That kind of personality doesn't match with mine. On the other side, some girls will brush off a guy who is poorly attired. What I've found is that women often look at how you dress and extrapolate from there about what you're like. I'll let you ladies expand on that if you will. But in any event, looks are always crucial... unless you're blind...

...in which case you wouldn't be on a computer in the first place surfing this site...

[Bashment Girl]

Well Bashment I guess you are right about the lifestyle thing. But I would say in general that not all men are into physical fitness. So I dont think that all of them are just looking at the women because of that. .

No, not all but that was an example of how your appearance can cause people to assume certain things about you. An example.. not a generalization.


I think that alot of them will talk with a women but they tend to go along with what other people do and think. Thats one way to look at it.

You're right I've seen it. In the situation that I witnessed, the man in question was immature and didn't even know what he wanted. Therefore, he allowed others judgements of that person, sway him. In retrospect, he sees that he lost a good thing! It happens of course you're right about that.

[Xenocrates]

some men are actually worried about the women they dat becuase of what their boys will think

- That's true. That's VERY true. :icon_mrgr

I've also encountered situations where attractive women have complained that most guys don't approach them because they feel intimidated by their physical beauty. I've heard this complaint VERY frequently.

A hot chick walks into a club with her less-attractive friends. Her friends get hook ups and she's left alone. The reverse is also true, but only in situations where the one girl in the pack that stands out is not as or comparatively attractive as her peers. In each case, its a different type of guy that draws on the majority.

[Gillion]

my neighbour is running his buju collection loud loud loud... ohh the sunday church people are going to be mad...

[Bashment Girl]

It goes also into how you present yourself. Me for example, I'd never be caught dead talking to a girl who feels comfortable walking half naked on the road. I just feel that the female body is such a precious thing, even if you want to show it off, be modest about it. Show enough, but not too much. I don't want to be able to figure out what she looks like naked by just seeing her on the street. Nah. That's a no-no for me.

But in any event, looks are always crucial...



Sorry to cut that up X lol... anyway...here's another example of a different type of appearance that can cause people to make conclusions about your character!

Image isn't the ONLY thing however, but it is important in my opinion.

[Gillion]

a pretty woman is more likely to give a man bun... and more likely to look ugly when old... and more likely to have too big a sexal appetite... as such more sexperience... and have too many men after them... which means more "game time" and as such most men fear the GAME TIME that these woman MAY have under thier belt.

For example... a woman that is "pretty" and pretty is synonmous to most men with "sophisticated" means if he takes her out for lunch at golden dragon she might not be impressed. If he takes her to his 1million dollar portmore home she migh complain she not comfortable.

He may also have "job issues" she might be use to talking with Doctors' and Lawyers' and as such this "mechanic" won't have a chance with her...

sum it up: out of his league... or she MUST BE TAKEN BY SOME BIG MAN

Some men even go as far as to factor in the size of his *****.

I could go on and on...

[Xenocrates]

Sorry to cut that up X lol...

- anna nutt'n dat. I do it all the time. ;) In fact, I think it's excellent quoting practice for forums. I hate it when people quote the ENTIRE text of someone's long post and writes up only a tiny response to it. You never know which of their specific points they're responding to specifically. I like your style VERY much. I wish everyone quoted like that. :D

[Bashment Girl]

- That's true. That's VERY true. :icon_mrgr

I've also encountered situations where attractive women have complained that most guys don't approach them because they feel intimidated by their physical beauty. I've heard this complaint VERY frequently.

A hot chick walks into a club with her less-attractive friends. Her friends get hook ups and she's left alone. The reverse is also true, but only in situations where the one girl in the pack that stands out is not as or comparatively attractive as her peers. In each case, its a different type of guy that draws on the majority.

In this case I think the woman in question may be unapproachable! Sometimes people that are good looking, are used to hearing it, and can have heirs about them! It sound like I'm hating but I'm not because my own mother is like that! She was a model, knows she's attractive, is used to hearing it, and therefore... A lot of guys wouldn't approach her based on her countenance.

[Bashment Girl]

- I like your style VERY much. I wish everyone quoted like that. :D

Watch you gassing me up! Cool nuh! lol :cool: Thanks though.

[Gillion]

ooohhh

AND PRETTY WOMEN LOVE MONEY

[Bashment Girl]

a pretty woman is more likely to give a man bun...

I disagree with that! Sometimes a woman that is pretty and has a lot of choice where men are concerned, is a better woman to be with.. WHY?

She knows what's out there, she knows what she can have, but if she chooses you then that's exactly what it is! She's choosen you. She sees what you have to offer and values it. Therefore is more likely to make sure she doesn't put herself in a position to loose that!

Can I be honest though? The women I see that treat their men the worst, cheat, lie and are just not good people in relationships are actually not very pretty at all! Any woman who doesn't see her own value, may believe that you as a man can't see it either. Therefore, she is more likely cheat because she is less likely to realise a good thing when she has it! :cool:

[Bashment Girl]

ooohhh

AND PRETTY WOMEN LOVE MONEY

lol... your stereotypes of women, specifically attractive ones, may be the thing that holds you back brother! Keep your mind more open than that! If all the women in your area are like that then look else where! :cool:

I don't consider myself to be ugly, and I don't consider myself to fall into any of these negative depictions of women you've expressed! I'm sorry for you brother... there should be more Goody Goody's like me in you area who have their own money, car, and don't want to rob you! ;)

[MiTcHiE]

Any guy that is scared to approach a girl because she pretty is a punk. When I was in college and taking the bus I was approaching women in them big cars and whatnot. Y should I worry about who them used to date or what kinda guy them used to??

[Xenocrates]

sum it up: out of his league... or she MUST BE TAKEN BY SOME BIG MAN...I could go on and on...

True dat. All of that is true. Attractive girls draw a LOT of male attention. Some of it can be annoying. But there are some guys who don't defeat themselves like that before giving the girl an honest chance. Personally I've always believed three things when approaching women:

1. When you meet a girl for the first time, you don't really meet her, you meet her representative. She tries to put her best foot forward, even if she doesn't have one. That's ok. We always try to make the first impression count.

2. Most of the times, even the extremely gorgeous females are extremely down-to-earth and 90% of the time, they just want to meet an genuine dude who they can relate to.

3. Women can smell fear in a guy. Most of the time, they won't sympathize with you if you are too shy, because they'll either misconstrue it as your being suspicious, or they will just feel uncomfortable. Girls generally like it when guys are bold, assertive and self-confident (not necessarily 'cocky').

Once they become comfortable with you, and perceive you as non threatening, it really doesn't matter after that. It's always good to figure out what the woman is about before you even get to the part where you want to be friends in any way shape or form. Because there are some attractive women out there who are genuinely expecting a guy to bring some serious financial clout to the scene. They've been spoiled by previous encounters. I can think of two such examples. They are loosely referred to as "chicken heads" I think (ah so dem name Mitchie?). They tend to be mighty young lasses too. But those girls don't make up the majority of the more attractive type. At least not from my experience.

I guess that's where Gillion's preference for older women makes perfect sense. I can't argue with that at all.

[Bashment Girl]

Personally I've always believed three things when approaching women:

1. When you meet a girl for the first time, you don't really meet her, you meet her representative. She tries to put her best foot forward, even if she doesn't have one. That's ok. We always try to make the first impression count.

lol I love it! It's true. On our BEST behaviour for the first couple months actually. lol... but if you are good at reading people, then you can see throught that! ;)


2. Most of the times, even the extremely gorgeous females are extremely down-to-earth and 90% of the time, they just want to meet an genuine dude who they can relate to.

This is the truth! We just want to meet someone who we can be ourselves around, and not have to feel self-conscious around! Well I should speak for my self anyway.;)


3. Women can smell fear in a guy. Most of the time, they won't sympathize with you if you are too shy, because they'll either misconstrue it as your being suspicious, or they will just feel uncomfortable. Girls generally like it when guys are bold, assertive and self-confident (not necessarily 'cocky').
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I'll give you that part, but I don't see a shy guy as suspicious, nor do I feel uncomfortable! I feel him out and see if I can bring out a little bit of personality. I think maybe HE's uncomfortable, so I try to make him comfortable. If that doesn't work by date #3 I'm losing the faith for sure lol :rolleyes: :p

[Pondadat]

mi ave one ugly man locked up eena mi ouse he he. not going to let him out for some woman to take him (Joke me mek) lata guys