Music, its effects and trends.

[silentburn]

Ok, in this thread we'll discuss everything about entertainment and its effects.

Feel free to talk about the trends that you have noticed, also feel free to highlight anything weird or note worthy that has happened to you while listening to music or while you were at a club, concert, rave or whatever.

Music does have effects, some are positive while some are negative. It is argued that some music styles are synonymous with negativity while other genres are consistently positive.

If you say that music has no effect and is merely entertainment then I think some denial may be involved in such an opinion.

What say you?

[ChrystalC]

I am often times told that I need to expand my listening and give other music a chance.

Truth is, I gave almost all areas their fair share of listening, but alot of them I just cant go for more than a cuppla seconds.

Eg. Rave, what's there to listen, solo noise.
Metal...aye sah.
Dance hall reggae...violence, non-sense, violence, gal dis, violence, gal dat, nonsense, and more violence (both in the lyrics and the entertainers' actions).

Meanwhile, listening to soul makes me relax, some of which makes me reminisce on cherished times spent with a loved one. Even though I admit, some of the love songs never fail to make me depress from situations I can relate to or know someone who have been through the situation thats in the song. Nontheless, the end/story line is almost alway positive, and put a smile on the face or put the heart at ease....LOVE SONGS, OH PRECIOUS LOVE SONGS!!!

I listen to a bit of conscious reggae and lovers rock (reggae). Man like Greggory Issacs, Dennis Brown, Beres Hammon and some of Luciano.

Those kind of music just put you in a mood unexplainable by me, but I guess its juss cool and deadly feelings which I truly enjoy everytime I listen and rock to the sweet melodious sound of the artistes mixed with the music.

Country, I just listen mainly for the laughter, as most of the times the ones I listen are funny stories told by the artistes. Like Lorretta Lyn, Shanai Twain, Dolly Parton, Kenny Rogers, I just put them in my soul segment.

Nice topic.

[silentburn]

Maybe I should just open up the topic to ''the effects of audio/visual entertainment'' focusing on movies and music.

Yes, its a very interesting topic, it has been avoided..... until now. Is dancehall music influencing the general culture of Jamaica? Or maybe it has already influenced it.

They say music merely reflects the general atmosphere in society but doesn't the repetition of that general atmosphere just cause the same attitudes and values to be spread more widely across the strata of the society?

I don't know what anyone else thinks but I certainly see the music slowly grasping the whole society.

I think Plato or Socrates something to the effect of ''You can tell the mettle of a government by the music in society.'' (paraphrased quote)

Remember also, this is not an overnight process, the music has evolved and changed slowly over the years but the momentum is really picking up now.

[ChrystalC]

Very much so. The music of Jamaica and Jamacians have alot to do with our general culture and such of the entire Caribbean and other parts of the world who listen and understand the message that is being sent out in the music.

Dancehall reggae is aggressive, and I see where in people who would "die for" the music are most times agressive people (all the ones I know). The artistes alike are aggressive, take for example, Christmas weekend show in Jamaica, when Spice did her piece onstage about Beenie's life (dat a lyrics) and Beenie's friends slapped her in her face after he (beenie) confronted her about her lyrics. Dat shudden dey happen atall. Same thing can and will happen to friends who take sides with what ever artiste they "prefer" so their entire behavior branches out to society.

Bounty preach gun and call himself war lord...a wha dat him a tell people? Cho!

It didnt start here or now, but its getting worse. Things and time really really change. Bob Marley suppose to dey spin like gig inna him grave every day some news come out bout dem funny artiste guys.

[BlackCryptoKnight]

I need to understand something. Why do some women literally feint and lose conciousness when they hear certain persons sing? What is that about? For crying out loud, IT'S JUST A SONG!

And what's with this silly rubbish about going to "war" over an entertainer? This one says something about that one, that one says something about this one, the fans of both go out and beat each other over what 2 entertainers said. Wha dat? People don't have anything better to do with their time?

<sigh>

[ChrystalC]

I need to understand something. Why do some women literally feint and lose conciousness when they hear certain persons sing? What is that about? For crying out loud, IT'S JUST A SONG!

And what's with this silly rubbish about going to "war" over an entertainer? This one says something about that one, that one says something about this one, the fans of both go out and beat each other over what 2 entertainers said. Wha dat? People don't have anything better to do with their time?

<sigh>Either they have an overflow of emotions or they are overly bad actresses. Mi nuh si through it needa BCK. But I have to add, sometimes when listening to certain songs that is lovely I most times cant help but to slip in the said mood...watta bill-up inna mi yie when mi listen to most of Celine Dion songs. But I will not fall in a trance.

[silentburn]

Are we saying then that music has an effect on people? Or is the effect relative?

Are some types of music bad for us or can we just listen to anything without any of it wiping off on us?

Do the beats matter?

[ChrystalC]

Are we saying then that music has an effect on people? Or is the effect relative?

Are some types of music bad for us or can we just listen to anything without any of it wiping off on us?

Do the beats matter?This question should have been asked in the silly question thread. :dwl:
Just kidding.

But to answer your question. Yes music does have effect on people. You may not be the one to follow what the entertainer is saying, but there is a whole lot of people out there being "slaves" to the songs they listen. Nuff nuff man use lines from songs from their favorite artistes, some of them even give it their own meaning.

Eg. #1 I dont really know the intension of Bounty Killer's Anytime mi hungry yuh aggo si mi 9, but I personally hear people use that line cause dem claim "dem pickney nah guh hungry an rich bwoy gat money an him nuh tekki".

Eg. #2 The matey matey songs back in the late 80ies to mid 90ies created war between women who were sharing men. In the news I can clearly remember, a nuff women were stabbed, got burnt by acid, or went down fatally because a some song and dem "maggle pan dem matey" an guh chue inna di dance.

Now to comment on the beats, ask the fans of Sean Paul. Nat even mi as a yawd sumaddy understand wha him a sey more while. :rotflm: :dwl:

[silentburn]

Even, if you don't do what the music says I think it still affects you. It has to affect you subconsciously. Music does not need to be processed by the cerebrum. The brain automatically understands it.

Modern genres, can cause you to anticipate the next beat in the arrangement, which in turn causes u to want to move/rock/shake. Heavy beats, call for heavy dancing and gyrating, its natural. Heavy gyrating and dancing cause other things to happen. ;)

Music can also alter the state of your mind. It can place one in an alpha state. This is the same state our brain is in when we are dreaming. In the alpha state the brain waves slow down, normally our brain waves are moving rapidly and there are a million things running through our minds at any one time. In the alpha state you are basically open to anything, your brain is easily influenced in this state. This is also the same state that hypnosis brings about. That's why hypnotist are able to manipulate ones mind, simply because they slow down brain waves.

Music can do this, well, some music. The type of music that usually accomplishes this is music with rhythms that are highly repetitive or music that lacks a climax, the same rhythm just repeats and repeats.

There are whole lot of other factors too, like the noise level and so on. It is said that the amount of dissonance present in hard rock can cause damage to the nerves (nerve jamming).

There are some genres that are actually engineered to produce similar effects to that of drugs; drugs as in cocaine, extasy and so on.

Music has an effect on us, even if we think we are subconsciously controlling our reaction to the music there's still something going on subconsciously that we are not easily aware of.

[ChrystalC]

BTW Good topic!

I would like to hear what the other members have to say on it still.

[silentburn]

What do you notice about the music of the present day? It spread across all genres. Dancehall, Rap, Trance, R&B, POP, Rock. What is the underlying theme of the music, or better yet, what does the music seem to achieve?

[BlackCryptoKnight]

What is the underlying theme of the music, or better yet, what does the music seem to achieve?

Selfishness .

[ramesh]

Tell you the truth, all I hear in music these days is "I have a lot of women", "I have fast expensive cars", "I shoot people for fun", "cops are evil", "dangerous drugs are good", "beat up girls", "kill anyone not like me", that sort of thing.

Whatever happened to instrumental music, like what we used to hear from Sly and Robbie?

[silentburn]

Tell you the truth, all I hear in music these days is "I have a lot of women", "I have fast expensive cars", "I shoot people for fun", "cops are evil", "dangerous drugs are good", "beat up girls", "kill anyone not like me", that sort of thing.

Whatever happened to instrumental music, like what we used to hear from Sly and Robbie?

:icon_lol: True. Sly and Robbie are busy making beats for the long list you mentioned above.

The music focuses alot on feelings, it conjures up various emotions, some negative. Its all about loosing inhibitions. I'm not just talking about the vocals. You would be surprised to know how far the rhythm will take you. The music embraces the culture of instant gratification.

The vocals have actually become less important. Its the rhythm that matters. Most genres are focusing on the physical. The more rhythm the better.

Do you guys get what i'm trying to say?

[Manu]

Every "chat" made in the dancehall has made it's way unto the streets in everyday conversations. One fine example is "bullet bullet bullet". I mean...why? And then the peer pressure comes in...because everyone is saying it... and you not saying it...so you seem square then it forces you to say it...thus perpetuating the thing.