Would muslim extremist be tolerated in Jamaica?

[silentburn]

How do you feel about this? Do you think its possible for muslim extremist to infiltrate the jamaican public?

Many Jamaicans join various rastafarian sects even though they may not really understand the belief system or what rastafarians are about. It seems to me that it would be just as easy for fanatical muslims to infiltrate the mind set of the ''unread'' class of Jamaicans. I'm sure they would also convince a few eccentric scholars too.

[Xenocrates]

How do you feel about this? Do you think its possible for muslim extremist to infiltrate the jamaican public? - Thankfully, Jamaicans are too uncivilized for any such thing to survive for long.

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[Gillion]

This man is a notorious murderer from montego bay.

[silentburn]

Yes, that cleric is in Jamaica now but that doesn't mean he will be able to sow his seeds of islamic fundamentalism in the heads of idle citizens or will he?

Anarchy is not necessarily a good thing. It allows unwanted groups to fester and grow unnoticed until they are unable to be controlled.

Quite a few of the young males in our society have absolutely no plans for the future, no vision, no focus, no goals. Wouldn't these social circumstances allow unguided males to have a structured path to follow if they were to be indoctrinated by islam? I mean something eventually has to fill the gap, right?

[Gillion]

He can't do it here... he is ore likely to be shot dead during prayer.

[silentburn]

:eusa_thinWhy are you guys so sure that this radical behavior cannot take root in Jamaica? Our population seems to adopt many behaviors which the north or north east dishes out, whether that behavior be good or bad.

I really hope you guys are right.

[Gillion]

:eusa_thinWhy are you guys so sure that this radical behavior cannot take root in Jamaica? Our population seems to adopt many behaviors which the north or north east dishes out, whether that behavior be good or bad.

I really hope you guys are right.

In Jamaica any radical behaviour that threatens politics, drug money or turf ... will be be extinguished.

[Xenocrates]

In Jamaica any radical behaviour that threatens politics, drug money or turf ... will be be extinguished.
- Exactly. The gays are having a hard enough time as it is. Jamaicans are just too ignorant to swallow up any radical newness like that without turning on every muslim in the country and making them extinct overnight. If they're willing to kill two men who want to have sex with each other, can you imagine what they'd do to a bunch of black arabs who'd threaten their livelihood?

[Justice]

In Jamaica any radical behaviour that threatens politics, drug money or turf ... will be be extinguished.

This may be true to some extent but you must realize that these same things can, and have cause people to commit acts of stupidity. You need only to go to a PNP or JLP mass meeting and have opposing views and see how people cut you out of your clothes. In fact a coworker of mine hate Bruce Golding so much that she said she would kill him if she sees him in her community, how much more extreme can she get?

[Justice]

- Exactly. The gays are having a hard enough time as it is. Jamaicans are just too ignorant to swallow up any radical newness like that without turning on every muslim in the country and making them extinct overnight. If they're willing to kill two men who want to have sex with each other, can you imagine what they'd do to a bunch of black arabs who'd threaten their livelihood?

But that the same reason why they would, it would take an ignorant man to be convinced to blow himself up. Why all the so call ‘leaders’ don’t blow themselves up? It is simply because they are far more intelligent than the fools they are convincing to do it.

You can’t put homosexuality on the same scale as extreme Muslims (it’s like comparing apple and breadfruit). When Iraq was invaded by the Americans I remember a lot of Jamaicans were outraged with the act and I have a friend who became a Muslim because of the same Iraqi war (I can’t say he would blow himself up, but I wouldn’t put it pass him since his MSN name is typically “Taliban unite” and “Kill those &#$% Americans”)

Jamaicans have been known to participate in some heinous acts and blowing up themselves is just as stupid. When a man walks into a community and fire bomb a house with adults and children inside, then stay outside and make sure persons don’t escape is similar to a man blowing himself up (in that he is taking life to serve his cause). Where was the outrage? It made news headline for a few days then it was forgotten, you know why? Because the majority among us is ignorant and ignorance breeds stupidity.

[Virus]

Fire Bombing a house and "righting" yourself off with a bomb are two different things..
With the fire bomb your targeting something specific
Strapping yourself with explosives and killing a dozen or more.. in a public place... :eusa_snoo


When a man walks into a community and fire bomb a house with adults and children inside, then stay outside and make sure persons don’t escape is similar to a man blowing himself up (in that he is taking life to serve his cause). Where was the outrage? It made news headline for a few days then it was forgotten, you know why? Because the majority among us is ignorant and ignorance breeds stupidity.
Forgotten by whom? Just bcuz it hasnt made headline for the past couple months doesnt mean ppl have forgotten

[Justice]

Fire Bombing a house and "righting" yourself off with a bomb are two different things..
With the fire bomb your targeting something specific
Strapping yourself with explosives and killing a dozen or more.. in a public place... :eusa_snoo

They both serve the same purpose. Extremist do these things because they believe that they have a cause and so no matter where the people are and their culture, as long as they believe that their cause is worth blowing up something they will. Similarly people believe that by killing some people they are serving their cause, the only difference is method and there is nothing to stop us from doing this. If we can have the heart to kill children then we can have the heart to blow ourselves up.



Forgotten by whom? Just bcuz it hasnt made headline for the past couple months doesnt mean ppl have forgotten

So since people haven’t forgotten where is the outrage? Why is it that almost 30 persons have died in the same community since the start of the year and it is allowed to continue? Where is the outrage? As a society we have become tolerant of violence and the only logical step is to become more extreme at what we do (strap ourselves with dynamite).

[Xenocrates]

I think you raised a valid point there, Justice. But the point that I'm getting at, is that the traditional Jamaican hasn't developed a level of formal thinking advanced enough to validate sacrificing his own life for any higher cause. If I know Jamaicans, they're far too selfish to even consider the probability.

[Virus]

Guns & knives are the weapons of choice. Bombs havent quite caught on as yet.. and who's to know, maybe the ppl responsible are already dead?


Where's the outrage
As a society What are you really getting at. Ppl have to move on, as hard as it is..


As a society we have become tolerant of violence and the only logical step is to become more extreme at what we do (strap ourselves with dynamite).lol, you sounding just like that guy on Generations. But i agree - if it was up to me... i'ld choose an atomic bomb :eusa_shif

[Manu]

No... why? No money involved!

[silentburn]

Case in point -->> Being a terrorist does not mean that one has to blow himself up to achieve his goals.

He can simply use an AK47 to mow down a group of people. We have a lot of AK47s in Jamaica.

I think our society is perfect for breading fanatical views. Plus our society like most western society feed their minds on entertainment, so that's an easy venue to promote and sensitize people to radical views.

The society has already been successfully sensitized to violence and sexual immorality through the media.

All I am saying is that our society has no real foundation, things can change quickly.

All that the radical clerics would have to do is to align themselves with drugs and guns, and there you have it, money. Remember these are radical, fanatical clerics, not Allah fearing Muslims.

[Manu]

We have violence yes... but I doubt we have radical extremist. I really don't think we have senseless killings in Jamaica. If it's not the person themself, it's a family member who causes their demise. Murders are usually done for revenge, monetary or real estate gain...like turf wars etc.

[Xenocrates]

We have violence yes... but I doubt we have radical extremist. I really don't think we have senseless killings in Jamaica. If it's not the person themself, it's a family member who causes their demise. Murders are usually done for revenge, monetary or real estate gain...like turf wars etc. - Exactly. People out here have never killed for any superlative or higher ideal. Their motivations are usually stimulated by very primal, base, animalistic propensities. Muslim extremists are retarded philosophers.

[Virus]

So why'd they kill Bob Marley..

[Manu]

Cancer killed the rasta man Virus. Tosh was murdered. Not Bob!

[Virus]

O...... :icon_redf

Sorry boss...
yah, im that young