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Cocoa
September 29, 2004, 10:57 AM
What is your take on tattooes and piercings? How many do you have?
Where is acceptable and unacceptable?

I have 4 piercings in my ears and no tattooes.

Greatis
September 29, 2004, 11:02 AM
What is your take on tattooes and piercings? How many do you have?
Where is acceptable and unacceptable?

I have 4 piercings in my ears and no tattooes.

Four piercings in your ear why for what reason? :eusa_eh:

Drew
September 29, 2004, 11:12 AM
i like small tatooes that are concealed.
piercings is a no no for guys. for the ladies, i like one, but no more than two.

Cocoa
September 29, 2004, 11:12 AM
2 in each ear: the first set i got when I was a baby and the second set I got for my 21st birthday.

Zoley!
September 29, 2004, 11:28 AM
I think tattoos are disgusting. :( I only have pierced ears and the same for piercing.

Greatis
September 29, 2004, 11:43 AM
2 in each ear: the first set i got when I was a baby and the second set I got for my 21st birthday.

so why get the second set?

AngelsKiss
September 29, 2004, 11:47 AM
Pierced ears...once. Don't want any more. Don't plan to get any tattooes either. Don't like men with pierced ears and I hate to see ppl with a million and one piercings and tattoos. A small discreet tattoo is nice.

Recently I was on the train and the guy across from me had his eyebrow pierced and 3 piercings in his lower lip. Some ppl sure like pain :)

Cocoa
September 29, 2004, 12:05 PM
so why get the second set?
Cause I wanted to wear 2 earrings at the same time. No more piercings for me though. Considered a tongue one but that is another long story to say for me not getting it.

Tastee
September 29, 2004, 02:01 PM
I dont even like the question. :(

Pondadat
September 29, 2004, 07:07 PM
I cannot conceive why people continue to violate their bodies like that.

Nastro
September 29, 2004, 07:38 PM
I have none and I don't want none....PERIOD!!!

I wear a magnetic earring sometimes though :D

Bashment Girl
September 29, 2004, 07:43 PM
I cannot conceive why people continue to violate their bodies like that.

They look at it like art! I went to school to pierce people as a teen then I realised that it doesn't pay enough for the lifestyle I want. So TELECOM go me! lol :rolleyes: :p

As a youth I pierced my:
-eyebrow (tiny bar bell very cute)
-nose (tiny diamond stud very cute)
-navel (SEXY!)
-tongue (tiny studs are cute)

I never wore my eyebrow & nose rings together... I thought it was extra....

Anyway, of all of those I left in the tongue only because that was the most expensive one lol.. :rolleyes: Yeah but you can't tell at all where the piercings were.

Can I just say... please make sure that if you are going to pierce anything... do research!!! Only go to people that are educated and have certificates. They know what's best for your skin type and everything... also go a place where they open the insturments and ornaments in front of you so you know they're new and CLEAN! :cool:

Nastro
September 29, 2004, 07:45 PM
They look at it like art! I went to school to pierce people as a teen then I realised that it doesn't pay enough for the lifestyle I want. So TELECOM go me! lol :rolleyes: :p

As a youth I pierced my:
-eyebrow (tiny bar bell very cute)
-nose (tiny diamond stud very cute)
-navel (SEXY!)
-tongue (tiny studs are cute)

I never wore my eyebrow & nose rings together... I thought it was extra....

Anyway, of all of those I left in the tongue only because that was the most expensive one lol.. :rolleyes: Yeah but you can't tell at all where the piercings were.

Can I just say... please make sure that if you are going to pierce anything... do research!!! Only go to people that are educated and have certificates. They know what's best for your skin type and everything... also go a place where they open the insturments and ornaments in front of you so you know they're new and CLEAN! :cool:


Right now I am dying to see what you look like!!!

Bashment Girl
September 29, 2004, 07:49 PM
Right now I am dying to see what you look like!!!

Everybody already saw me but I'll post this here's me:


I'm taking this down in about 5 minutes lol..

Tastee
September 29, 2004, 07:50 PM
Piercing my tongue I am not no animal and thats just nasty! :eusa_snoo

Bashment Girl
September 29, 2004, 07:56 PM
Piercing my tongue I am not no animal and thats just nasty! :eusa_snoo

lol... That's pretty ignorant! lol :rolleyes: What does piercing your body have to do with being an animal or unhygenic?! :rolleyes:

Tastee
September 29, 2004, 07:59 PM
it happens to be what i think about piercing my tongue and say im ignorant. I'll be that then.

Cocoa
September 29, 2004, 08:46 PM
If I had my way (which I know I don't) I woud pierce my tongue and nose. I think I have enough holes now (God made), so I just remain satisfied.
No tattooes for me. Wanted to once, but that was just an army thing.

Zoley!
September 29, 2004, 09:05 PM
Obviously some people are demented when it comes to piercings or maybe just a lack of decorum. People have a right to their opinions thats why this is called a forum.

Gillion
September 29, 2004, 11:08 PM
bashy... those piercings... your nose and eyebrow, toung ... do they affect your cooking skills ? you know sense of sight, taste and touch ?

Gillion
September 29, 2004, 11:13 PM
so i watched national geographic and watched a woman have her teeth sharpened, another boy have his belly slasshed several times and a tribesman get a really big tatoo... and all I thought was... hmmm ok... cool

not me... but cool

and not disgusting or nasty

people who think that other people are nasty for body mods tend to be squemish and judgemental... bad bad vibes yo.

I have friends with braces... so whats the difference with a piereced tongue ?

still metal in the mouth and as long as they can eat food then them criss :)

--ignorance is a subtle disease
Gillion

Gillion
September 29, 2004, 11:18 PM
I actually thought of having my already large canines (they are pronounced so I have a bit of a savage grin) capped to look longer like an animal... ummm coyote perhaps :) or was it vampire

also wished I could shine my eyes like fictional riddick

Pondadat
September 30, 2004, 07:30 PM
it happens to be what i think about piercing my tongue and say im ignorant. I'll be that then.

I dont think your ignorant Tastee its just your opinion like you said and you have that right. Your not ignorant at all.

Arch_Angel
September 30, 2004, 07:38 PM
I think we should be a little bit more considerate of others when we post our opinions on a subject. Some of us might actually have piercings and tattoos and for them it is ok. If we don't like piercings and tattoos, try and say so without offending each other, a'ight? :)

I don't got any piercings and tattoos. Not planning to either. I like my body how it is. :D

Tastee
September 30, 2004, 07:42 PM
I dont like them and it doesnt matter who has them that is my opinion and thats how I see it I find them very unattractive. And someone says I ignorant oh well. I dont see you saying anything about that. But thats ok I know otherwise. Thank you Ponda for coming to my defense but its ok.

AngelsKiss
September 30, 2004, 07:45 PM
Sometimes is not what we say it's how we say it that makes all the difference in the world. I also find that saying something a loud is one thing when its in black and white its another.

Words are very powerful they have the capability to build some one up or tear them down.

Tastee
September 30, 2004, 07:49 PM
You know what really I think i already address this with Arch Angel.

AngelsKiss
September 30, 2004, 07:52 PM
Just to add to what I posted above...this is an open forum, every one has a right to post their thoughts and opinions on any subject that comes up on here as long as we do so respectfully. :)

Xenocrates
October 1, 2004, 02:04 AM
I dont like them and it doesnt matter who has them that is my opinion and thats how I see it I find them very unattractive. And someone says I ignorant oh well. I dont see you saying anything about that. But thats ok I know otherwise.

- Tastee, if you're ignorant, then I'm a damn fool. Cuz I feel exactly the same way you do. I got your back on that one gurl. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Xenocrates/Smilies/thumbup.gif

I prefer my females unspoiled, untainted, unpierced, unpainted, unenhanced, unsiliconed, with no additives, preservatives, artificial colouring or flavouring (yes, flavouring) except where absolutely necessary and applied in highly liberal amounts. I'm a strong believer in the concept that people should keep themselves natural, and even if not so, maintain balance. Apply some moderation. An unnaturally "enhanced" person, especially with piercings, seems very unpleasant to the eyes, especially when it is done in excess and in inappropriate places.

Ear piercings look good when inconspicuous and when there is only a single pair. Navel piercings, while I wouldn't want someone with them, can be cute when they are done in a tiny and inconspicuous manner. But there seems to be a fine line between sexy and grotesque these days. For I don't understand the motivation of someone who has pierced (or is willing to pierce):

- Eyebrows
- Nose
- Lips
- Tongue (what the f?! WHY?!)
- ***** (I mean castration makes more sense here...)
- Nipples (Oh... my .... God... )
- Lavia (Why in God's holy name?!)

To me, that's an abuse of one's body. It looks extremely unnatural and unpleasant, like Tastee put it. People who feel comfortable with such piercings should have a psychological examination done. That's just not normal behaviour. And one doesn't need to be squeamish to abhor piercings. I'm not squeamish by a longshot. But there're some things that people shouldn't do to themselves I think.

Xenocrates
October 1, 2004, 02:05 AM
I've seen some kids who get genuine pleasure from being bruised or impaled while playing. There is a psychological study that has established a co-relation between the nature in these kids and those who love piercings. But it remains only a co-relation. Because even if not outwardly expressive as such, dreaming permits each and every single one of us to be secretly and safely insane every night of our lives. Those who do genuinely enjoy such unnatural pleasures but are uncomfortable with what their peers may think, may only go as far as to get a navel piercing. Ofcourse this doesn't apply to the entire set.

In the backbushes of the inaccessible jungles, tribal men who deformed their bodies were considered barbaric by western society only 300 years ago. Today, we are doing the same thing to ourselves and it is no longer barbaric. In fact, it's art. Or so say they, the proponents of this weird culture.

Are the people of the 18th century the ignorant ones? Or are we? From what position do we argue that someone who abhors piercings as being ignorant? Are we not then saying by extension that strong admiration for the natural human body in its natural state is madness? Or has madness consumed our minds to the point where we can no longer reliably discern madness from sanity?

I think that our perception of what is truly art is slowly being decayed by a rotting western civilization. And it's rotting from the inside out, from the top down. That's what I think. Christ said that it is not what goes into a man that corrupts him, it's what comes out. What we do to ourselves on the outside shows off what is really on the inside, from a metaphysical perspective ofcourse. With that said, consider this:

The Devil and his minions were never ones who have expressed a great deal of appreciation or respect for the natural beauty, sophistication and sanctity of the human body.

Food for thought.

Carry on.

Cocoa
October 1, 2004, 02:14 AM
I'm a strong believer in the concept that people should keep themselves natural, and even if not so, maintain balanceBalance is the key word here. I didn't get a tongue ring because after deep consideration and thnking about the pain and suffering I faced when I did surgery on my tongue 2 years ago, totally turned me off.

Also, God showing me something: "some things are permissible, but not everything is worthwhile" i don't remember the scripture but its in Corinthians. I knew I had the freedom to get it, but for what purpose? and how worthwhile will it be for me?

I find the freak shows with multiple piercings all over the body on the television as unattractive, along with tattoes over the body. I mean..having like 10 holes in one ear and 15 in one area of the body is ridiculous and yes Tastee and Xeno- unattractive.

I can stick with my 2 pierced ears and that's that.

Gillion
October 1, 2004, 08:24 AM
hehehe....

xeno... if you were jewish you'd say un-circumcised men are nasty and religiously imperfect.

Drew
October 1, 2004, 09:13 AM
let me ask you this, do any of you know people with all those piercings and ever asked them why??

Xenocrates
October 1, 2004, 11:02 AM
:icon_arro Gillion

If I was Jewish, and my personality was just as it is now, I wouldn't care. Why? Because:

1. Xeno usually tries to find the source of a custom that everybody does blindly. The ritual of Circumcision was taken from the Egyptians. It was their idea. Not God's. So I wouldn't be so persuaded.

2. Xeno would have, by his teenage years, determined that the old law of Moses, succinctly followed by the Jews was now obsolete, and that Judaism is now reduced to a religion of rituals. Read carefully:

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

The law of sin and death is used interchangably in the Bible with Moses' law. The one he invented which was a coalescence of Jewish customs and many others adopted from sorrounding states on their journey to, thru and from Egypt to their current location. The Jews still (for the most part) follow Moses' law and the old laws of sabbath keeping etc. Christ came to earth to fulfil and subsequently replace that law with a new one which is much simpler (to love your neighbour as yourself and love God with all your heart).

Hence, I probably would have made a VERY very bad Jew. My father would have thrown me out of the house from my rebellious teen years. :icon_mrgr

Gillion
October 1, 2004, 12:21 PM
you wouldn't have had a choice... they circumcises you before you are one month old.

stop wiggling...

as someone that reads national geographic and talks so highly about aryans, anthropology and what not, you ought to understands that customs and fads are part of the fauna of humanity that comprise culture and cultural changes. Like it or not.

In some cultures you would be wearing a skirt instead of pants, in others your wife would have
sharpened the edges of her teeth to look like a shark, hell, if you were in certain states in africa you would most certainly marry a woman that has been CIRCUMCISED.

Lol, I remember reading about women that endeavour to gain weight in excess of 200 pounds in order to be considered attractive in specific african tribes. She just sits down and eats eats eats.

We as west indian men like our women with meat on their bones (roundness) not the waif thin skinny girls that seem to be popular in Europe and Ameirca. An american man would think us mad for thinking that Queen Latifa is hot.

If that is not a good example then try this.

At one point and time HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS IN JAMAICA were not permitted to wear their hair natural. It had to be processed. None of the funky dread, plat up plat up, natural thing, would do.
Natural hair African hair was considred primitive and repugnant.

In fact I know some people who think that natural hair and plats on a woman is NASTY.

Speaking of hair. The French do not have a problem with body hair and women will wear a sleveless blouse whilst they have armpit hair. Tell that to an American and they would scream in horror as many of them think body hair is disgusting. Pretty woman Julia Roberts wore an evening gown and he very red armpit hair was very obvious. It cause a real uproar in hollwood. Tabloids published the picture over and over again. It turns out the woman had a bad reaction to a deoderant and couldn't "trim the crop".

But becuse cultures change I bet in a few years that trend will change.

The people with holes in their tongues might be seen as normal. Most of the women I know have their belly buttons peirced to wear belly jewels. Then there are those that have that big tatto just above their butts.

East Indian women peirce thier noses and wear toe rings. Some even have that little chain from ear to nose. I do not know what it means. But I know my penticostal friends think lowly of them.

When we have subconscious revulsions to peoples body mods and customs, we end up sending that out through body language and people will pick it up. This sort of ignorance and misunderstanding causes wars and slavery. Things like ethnic cleansings occur.

At one point in Jamaican history.... RASTAS WERE CONSIDERED NASTY PEOPLE....

So when your in my presence, for argument sake, you might still think because of my locks I am a dirty nasty repulsive human being ?

--ignorance is sooo subtle
Gillion

Gillion
October 1, 2004, 12:22 PM
Edify !!


We will proably say ewwwwwwwwwwww when looking at this picture....
http://imagesavers.com/041001/1096648002.GIF

http://www.units.muohio.edu/psybersite/Attraction/culture.shtml

AngelsKiss
October 1, 2004, 12:54 PM
you wouldn't have had a choice... they circumcises you before you are one month old.

stop wiggling...

as someone that reads national geographic and talks so highly about aryans, anthropology and what not, you ought to understands that customs and fads are part of the fauna of humanity that comprise culture and cultural changes. Like it or not.

In some cultures you would be wearing a skirt instead of pants, in others your wife would have
sharpened the edges of her teeth to look like a shark, hell, if you were in certain states in africa you would most certainly marry a woman that has been CIRCUMCISED.

Lol, I remember reading about women that endeavour to gain weight in excess of 200 pounds in order to be considered attractive in specific african tribes. She just sits down and eats eats eats.

We as west indian men like our women with meat on their bones (roundness) not the waif thin skinny girls that seem to be popular in Europe and Ameirca. An american man would think us mad for thinking that Queen Latifa is hot.

If that is not a good example then try this.

At one point and time HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS IN JAMAICA were not permitted to wear their hair natural. It had to be processed. None of the funky dread, plat up plat up, natural thing, would do.
Natural hair African hair was considred primitive and repugnant.

In fact I know some people who think that natural hair and plats on a woman is NASTY.

Speaking of hair. The French do not have a problem with body hair and women will wear a sleveless blouse whilst they have armpit hair. Tell that to an American and they would scream in horror as many of them think body hair is disgusting. Pretty woman Julia Roberts wore an evening gown and he very red armpit hair was very obvious. It cause a real uproar in hollwood. Tabloids published the picture over and over again. It turns out the woman had a bad reaction to a deoderant and couldn't "trim the crop".

But becuse cultures change I bet in a few years that trend will change.

The people with holes in their tongues might be seen as normal. Most of the women I know have their belly buttons peirced to wear belly jewels. Then there are those that have that big tatto just above their butts.

East Indian women peirce thier noses and wear toe rings. Some even have that little chain from ear to nose. I do not know what it means. But I know my penticostal friends think lowly of them.

When we have subconscious revulsions to peoples body mods and customs, we end up sending that out through body language and people will pick it up. This sort of ignorance and misunderstanding causes wars and slavery. Things like ethnic cleansings occur.

At one point in Jamaican history.... RASTAS WERE CONSIDERED NASTY PEOPLE....

So when your in my presence, for argument sake, you might still think because of my locks I am a dirty nasty repulsive human being ?

--ignorance is sooo subtle
Gillion

Gillion you make some excellent points. Lots of African tribes are into body piercing and it is apart of their culture.

Drew also asked a good question...do we ever ask the ppl who get into body art, why.

However the part about the high schools wanting the females to process their hair I don't know about (I am not saying you are wrong). I went to an all girl Catholic high school and the only problem they had with braids was when the girls did these elaborate hair dos that was not appropriate. The same thing applies elaborate hair dos for process hair. I use to braid my hair in high school and no one every said anything to me. I kept it simple.

AngelsKiss
October 1, 2004, 12:59 PM
Ok so here are some questions:

Is body art (piercing, tattoo, etc) wrong from a religious (maybe i should b specific and say Christian) perspective and why?

A part from cultural reasons, why do ppl do body art?

Drew
October 1, 2004, 01:24 PM
you people know who they call "cutters" [there is a term for it, don't remember right now]. i knew a few people that loved piercings because they needed to feel alive. they were also cutters. i've met a few of them and all of them i've met wether piercings or tattooes are seriously depressed and suicidal.

do u guys kno punk rock. ever notice that they all have many piercings. its easy to spot someone that likes punk rock because they all are in a social group that practice the same habits.

some ladies do it cause they believe that it will make there body looks good. i find navel rings to be nice, but not a big deal. i've heard a young lady tell me why she did her clit, i don't think i can post the response she gave me. its also a daring act. you pierce your head or your nipples and you show that you are brave and can take a little pain. [utter nonsense, but thats just what i think]

tattooes now are a little different. tattoes are very popular to show how one feels about oneself. one of the most popular tattoes that ladies are getting is the chinese symbol for strong woman. now this lets em feel good. some people do it because of something they are very close to and care much about. take for eg eminem, he has a portrait of his daughter on his right upper arm, i think that was a really touching thing to do. tattooes all tell a story about people. you could do like angelina jo-lee and get a tattoo of her billy bob on your body.[not a very smart idea for obvious reasons]

then there are the thorn looking symbols that people have on their upper arms or lower back, those i don't get the big deal of.

so it all means things to different people. whether the foolishess acts of trying to show off, or representing something you care about deeply.

actually i've actually thought about getting 2 very small tattoes. one for my mom and one for my sis, because they mean alot to me.

Bashment Girl
October 1, 2004, 01:33 PM
Ok so here are some questions:

Is body art (piercing, tattoo, etc) wrong from a religious (maybe i should b specific and say Christian) perspective and why?

A part from cultural reasons, why do ppl do body art?

Depending on what religion... but yeah it's a sin to mutilate your body!

I know in lots of tribal cultures it's a ritual to pierce certain thing. :cool:

AngelsKiss
October 1, 2004, 01:38 PM
Depending on what religion... but yeah it's a sin to mutilate your body!

I know in lots of tribal cultures it's a ritual to pierce certain thing. :cool:

Heya Bashy, good to see you on here again:)

Strangely enough I never thought much about this body art thing, I suppose because I it's not an interest for me.

If that's the case then I suppose having a pierce ear is a sin, so for all of us who have pierce ears we have committed another sin.

Bashment Girl
October 1, 2004, 01:39 PM
bashy... those piercings... your nose and eyebrow, toung ... do they affect your cooking skills ? you know sense of sight, taste and touch ?

NO! As I said before I didn't wear them all at the same time though.... I'm still going through this thread though... lots of opinions..wow wow!

Bashment Girl
October 1, 2004, 01:45 PM
so i watched national geographic and watched a woman have her teeth sharpened, another boy have his belly slasshed several times and a tribesman get a really big tatoo... and all I thought was... hmmm ok... cool

not me... but cool

and not disgusting or nasty

I don't look at this the same way as piercing and tattooing though. These things are like rights of passage or whatever! They mark different periods in these tribe members lives. Just like in some tribes they actually put a slash accross the males face at 13... you know the musician SEAL? He's got one!

still metal in the mouth and as long as they can eat food then them criss :)

My ornament isn't metal... it's plastic...surgical steel is damaging to the toot enamel!

people who think that other people are nasty for body mods tend to be squemish and judgemental... bad bad vibes yo.

--ignorance is a subtle disease
Gillion

lol...lol.... I like this lol...

again... I chopped up the poor man's post lol...

AngelsKiss
October 1, 2004, 01:53 PM
I know next to nothing about body art so I can't comment too much on the subject. I just know that it's a part of some cultures and that there are some ppl who walk around with a lot of piercings, tattooes and spiky hair in funny clothing.

Bashment Girl
October 1, 2004, 01:54 PM
. For I don't understand the motivation of someone who has pierced (or is willing to pierce):

- Eyebrows
- Nose
- Lips
- Tongue (what the f?! WHY?!)
- ***** (I mean castration makes more sense here...)
- Nipples (Oh... my .... God... )
- Lavia (Why in God's holy name?!)

To me, that's an abuse of one's body. It looks extremely unnatural and unpleasant, like Tastee put it. People who feel comfortable with such piercings should have a psychological examination done. That's just not normal behaviour. And one doesn't need to be squeamish to abhor piercings. I'm not squeamish by a longshot. But there're some things that people shouldn't do to themselves I think.

Yes it can be abusive to the body but it depends on the person. The motivation is just that it is physically enhancing when done correctly! I look at a lot of people that have pierced their bodies and they get addicted to it... they go over board with it! It depends on you tastes though... I think that piercings can be attractive... depending on the person wearing it and how it's worn!

As for comparing piercing your body with that of anamilistic or "unnatural" behaviour... I guess I don't see that! It can be when a person goes over board with it but that's the individual them selves!

I guess I could break down what each and every piercing is for but what would be the point here?

Bashment Girl
October 1, 2004, 01:55 PM
I know next to nothing about body art so I can't comment too much on the subject. I just know that it's a part of some cultures and that there are some ppl who walk around with a lot of piercings, tattooes and spiky hair in funny clothing.

Yeah that's the stereotypical image that people have of this subject! Everybody's seen my pic... do I look like that?

As I said there are people who go overboard with it but those peoople exist EVERYWHERE in everything!

Bashment Girl
October 1, 2004, 02:10 PM
I've seen some kids who get genuine pleasure from being bruised or impaled while playing. There is a psychological study that has established a co-relation between the nature in these kids and those who love piercings. But it remains only a co-relation. Because even if not outwardly expressive as such, dreaming permits each and every single one of us to be secretly and safely insane every night of our lives. Those who do genuinely enjoy such unnatural pleasures but are uncomfortable with what their peers may think, may only go as far as to get a navel piercing. Ofcourse this doesn't apply to the entire set.

People who enjoy pain and, someone who finds piercings, and tattoos attractive is different! I hve met those people they are called EXTREMISTS, and you say doesn't apply to everyone!

In the backbushes of the inaccessible jungles, tribal men who deformed their bodies were considered barbaric by western society only 300 years ago. Today, we are doing the same thing to ourselves and it is no longer barbaric. In fact, it's art. Or so say they, the proponents of this weird culture.

Are the people of the 18th century the ignorant ones? Or are we? From what position do we argue that someone who abhors piercings as being ignorant? Are we not then saying by extension that strong admiration for the natural human body in its natural state is madness? Or has madness consumed our minds to the point where we can no longer reliably discern madness from sanity?

This isn't a thing of the past at all BTW... people still practice these same traditions..... I don't think it's ignorant to dislike the idea of piercing your body at all. I though comparing it to being "NASTY" or unhygenic! Why is it unhygenic? The anamilism baffles me too. If you're going to say it's "unnatural" then in that case we shouldn't be driving, wearing clothing, wearing make up. I mean we can all be extremists about any topic, and mad people or psycosis exists everywhere not just in relation to body art!!

I think that our perception of what is truly art is slowly being decayed by a rotting western civilization. And it's rotting from the inside out, from the top down. That's what I think. Christ said that it is not what goes into a man that corrupts him, it's what comes out. What we do to ourselves on the outside shows off what is really on the inside, from a metaphysical perspective ofcourse. With that said, consider this:

The Devil and his minions were never ones who have expressed a great deal of appreciation or respect for the natural beauty, sophistication and sanctity of the human body.

Food for thought.

Carry on.

I don't think that the general public's perception of art is being decayed at all. I think that again, there are extremists in every culture who take things over board and they tend to be the people that stand out in the minds of people who are not members of that culture!! Prime example... the ignorant people who think all MUSLIMS are terrorist.... ignorance, but people allow it!

Body art can be beautiful.. it's the "wearer" so to speak.

BMGrip
October 2, 2004, 09:55 PM
Finally getting a chance to see what all the hype is about here. My lady is part of this group as I said. But they emotions tend to run deep like a river. Frankly I love my woman natural without all camouflage, sorry but call me old fashioned I just love the essence of her who she is without all the hype zeen! hopefully I can calm them girls down and get them together.its the vibes zeen.

Chris
October 2, 2004, 10:13 PM
... Frankly I love my woman natural without all camouflage, sorry but call me old fashioned I just love the essence of her who she is without all the hype zeen! ...No star, I would never call that old fashioned .... because I would also be considered old fashioned. Eash person will have their personal likes/dislikes, that's what makes the world interesting. I'm with you though, I'm not much into the "hype" as you call it :)

root_gal
September 2, 2006, 01:36 AM
I think piercings are cool. It's a better high than drugs, I swear. I change my mind too often to get a tattoo though. I had 8 piercings, now I have 7 cos i had to close one in my ear. Thinking about getting a couple to replace that one though.

Twinkie
September 4, 2006, 09:21 AM
Well I can only imagine that you have your ears pierced three times on each side and then a belly button right....right???? Heh!!!

root_gal
September 4, 2006, 01:18 PM
Well I can only imagine that you have your ears pierced three times on each side and then a belly button right....right???? Heh!!!

I have four on one ear and I had two on the other, a belly button and tongue ring. Had to take one out of my ear though.

Twinkie
September 4, 2006, 01:49 PM
Speak the truth did you have to go this long two weeks without eating as some persons are scaring me to believe? And did it swell to where you couldn't speak? I know it varies with persons, but each opinion counts.

pogi_2nr
September 4, 2006, 04:31 PM
I have four on one ear and I had two on the other, a belly button and tongue ring. Had to take one out of my ear though.
Me and rooty can par now ;)

tiffany
September 4, 2006, 05:12 PM
...is it true what they say about girls and tounge rings??.. if u don't know what im referring to, don't ask.

Twinkie
September 4, 2006, 05:40 PM
No it's not true and everyone knows of the stigma Tiff.

There are genuine fashionistas, who wear it for just that reason = FASHION.

tiffany
September 4, 2006, 05:44 PM
..... oh ....................

root_gal
September 4, 2006, 05:47 PM
Speak the truth did you have to go this long two weeks without eating as some persons are scaring me to believe? And did it swell to where you couldn't speak? I know it varies with persons, but each opinion counts.

Nope. I ate after the first day. You just can't eat any dairy products. My tongue got swollen but not to the point where I couldn't speak.

And Tiffany, If you are referring to the rumour that girls with tongue rings are exceptional human beings:D, then that is true. Everything else is all lies.:eusa_naug

Fashionista here....lol

badkit_ee
September 30, 2006, 02:38 PM
I dont mind piercings or tattoos. I have 6 ear piercings, tongue and belly button and 1 tattoo. I dont think you should go overboard with it but i guess it can be addictive. Different strokes for different folks.

WasteLandSoldier4Lyfe
September 30, 2006, 03:20 PM
What is your take on tattooes and piercings? How many do you have?
Where is acceptable and unacceptable?



I have 1 piercing in each ear and 3 tattoos, never really liked tattos as much but after the first one it gets addictive

Brownsugar
September 30, 2006, 06:37 PM
I have 1 piercing in each ear and 3 tattoos, never really liked tattos as much but after the first one it gets addictive

:icon_redf Whose name is tattooed on yuh chest?:icon_mrgr That weekend was off the chain!!!!!!!!!!!!!:icon_mrgr

Bahama Mama
October 1, 2006, 01:55 AM
What is your take on tattooes and piercings? How many do you have?
Where is acceptable and unacceptable?

I have 4 piercings in my ears and no tattooes.

To me excess tattoes and body piercings are aesthetically unappealing. As such I have no tattoes and only two piercings, one in each ear lobe, thats it.

I think piercing your lips, tongue, nipples, and genitals is absurd.

jamerican
October 2, 2006, 10:03 AM
I have no Tattooes why because i wont be able give blood and it doesnt appeal to me
Piercings:eusa_naug hell no i dont like needles and thats just for the ladys i dont know why some men take up that still . Is not everybody Piercings and Tattooes fit still it just makes some look more ugly as hell

tiffany
October 2, 2006, 11:52 AM
i only have to piercings one in each ear lobe.. but i think the munroe is cool....

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/tiffsd12/images14.jpg

nuhsenutten
October 2, 2006, 12:47 PM
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g96/tiffsd12/images14.jpg

THATS NOT NICE ....PLZ DONT GO MEK NEBODY JUK U DERE SO!:dwl:

Twinkie
October 3, 2006, 10:51 AM
THATS NOT NICE ....PLZ DONT GO MEK NEBODY JUK U DERE SO!:dwl:

:dwl: :dwl: :dwl: :dwl: :dwl:

bernie
October 3, 2006, 02:02 PM
y'all so naughty
lol

tiffany
October 3, 2006, 10:56 PM
THATS NOT NICE ....PLZ DONT GO MEK NEBODY JUK U DERE SO!:dwl:

how cheap...................:rolleyes:

Twinkie
October 4, 2006, 09:29 AM
how cheap...................:rolleyes:

Cheap but funny as heck...WOI ME SIDE!!!! :rofl: :rofl:

NEFERTITI
October 19, 2006, 06:45 PM
I have 5 tatoos and i have my tongue pierce. But in my option its your body so u can do what u wish to it.

Twinkie
October 20, 2006, 09:14 AM
What are your tattoos of Nef?? And do you plan to get anymore??

silentburn
November 6, 2006, 10:23 PM
Interesting views and opinions.

In Jamaica I don't think piercings and tattoos are about rituals or the love for pain as some were implying. I know we may have a few body mutilators but thats a recent phenomenon and its still rare in Jamaica/Caribbean. A few more years of cable and we should be on par with the Americans in that regard.

The real Jamaican/Caribbean reasons for all these piercings and tattoos is all about style, getting attention and copy cat mentality. Just because we see the Europeans and the Americans doing it we feel we should do it too. Back in the day tattoos were a rare occurrence in Jamaica but now every other person has one.

Having piercings and tattoos doesn't mean that you are nasty or disgusting. It however potentially says something about ones character/personality.

The typical jamaican/western person who has a few piercings may have several subconscious or conscious reasons for doing so. Here are a few.

-That are attention seeking; they want to fit in, stand out, and/or be radical.
-They may think it is fashionable because others do it.
-They place emphasis on the material things in life.
-They seek to accentuate themselves through the use of outward adorning.
-Some use it as a mile stone, marking a point in their life. A birthday, the loss of virginity, broken relationship.
-Sometimes its rebellion against the norm, people just want to be different.

-Some are immature (they run ahead and get tattoos and 20 years down the line they realize that it was a bad idea and -wish they hadn't done it.

They can be many other reasons but I think these are the root reasons for piercings and tattoos. Its all about how u see your self or how u want to be seen.

I know that some will say they just get pierced because they felt like it. That statement will never be true especially if those piercings are more than one pair. There are other reasons involved

In the end it basically boils down to varying degrees of vanity, materialism and a self centered heart/mind. Some may not agree but these are the true reasons for any form of additional accessorizing to the human body.

All these things apply to men too.

P.S A friend of mind told me that I should never go out with a girl who has a tattoo, I'm still not sure why he said that. :confused:

root_gal
November 7, 2006, 12:44 AM
Having piercings and tattoos doesn't mean that you are nasty or disgusting. It however potentially says something about ones character/personality.

The typical jamaican/western person who has a few piercings may have several subconscious or conscious reasons for doing so. Here are a few.

-That are attention seeking; they want to fit in, stand out, and/or be radical.
-They may think it is fashionable because others do it.
-They place emphasis on the material things in life.
-They seek to accentuate themselves through the use of outward adorning.
-Some use it as a mile stone, marking a point in their life. A birthday, the loss of virginity, broken relationship.
-Sometimes its rebellion against the norm, people just want to be different.

-Some are immature (they run ahead and get tattoos and 20 years down the line they realize that it was a bad idea and -wish they hadn't done it.

They can be many other reasons but I think these are the root reasons for piercings and tattoos. Its all about how u see your self or how u want to be seen.

I know that some will say they just get pierced because they felt like it. That statement will never be true especially if those piercings are more than one pair. There are other reasons involved

In the end it basically boils down to varying degrees of vanity, materialism and a self centered heart/mind. Some may not agree but these are the true reasons for any form of additional accessorizing to the human body.

What qualifies you to make these judgments? There is a difference between stating an opinion and claiming that something is the "true reason" or "fact". Personally, I don't see the connection between tattoos and piercings and materialism. Furthermore, how is one person with one pair of piercings any less "materialistic" than someone with one dozen? In my opinion, piercing your tongue, ear or nose is the same thing - a piercing. If one of the main purposes of piercings is to "seek attention" then a person with one pair of piercings in their ears is seeking just as much attention as a person with ten.

silentburn
November 7, 2006, 03:05 PM
What qualifies you to make these judgments? There is a difference between stating an opinion and claiming that something is the "true reason" or "fact". Personally, I don't see the connection between tattoos and piercings and materialism.

Hmmm, you are right, it was an opinion not necessarily fact. Let me rephrase.

--In the end it basically boils down to varying degrees of vanity, materialism and a self centered heart/mind. Some may not agree but in my opinion these are the true reasons for any form of additional accessorizing to the human body.

Furthermore, how is one person with one pair of piercings any less "materialistic" than someone with one dozen? In my opinion, piercing your tongue, ear or nose is the same thing - a piercing. If one of the main purposes of piercings is to "seek attention" then a person with one pair of piercings in their ears is seeking just as much attention as a person with ten.

Let me answer that question. :icon_lol: One pair of platinum ear studs with diamonds cost way less than 10 pairs of platinum diamond studs. :icon_lol: Get my drift. Even if you buy cheap $JA100 dollar pair ear rings, 10 pairs of the same ear ring will cost $JA1000. One pair of earings will not acquire as much attention as a person who wears 10. For instance if a guys sees a girl with 2 ear rings he focuses more on the womans actual beauty. If he sees a girl with 10 ear rings however he will notice the woman's natural beauty still, but trust me he will take note of the extra piercings and he will document and classify the woman in his head according to his world view. A girl who wears ten piercings will be seen differently than a girl who only has two. A girl who has only two piercings is seen as more innocent and orthodoxed than a girl who has ten. A girl who has ten is usually seen as hyped, party oriented, freaky. The guy with the most nasty and rough personlity will still look on a girl who has 10 piercings differently than a girl with 2. Every sensible individual knows that we are all judged by our appearances.

For every thing we do in life there is a psychological reason for it.

Let me do some damage control though. A person who has 10 piercings is not necessarily less materialistic/vain than a person with no piercings at all. Just remember that people will be able to more fully understand you by the amount of information you give them. The more information one gives is the more others will be able to have a more precise understanding of who you are.

Gwadinka
November 7, 2006, 04:39 PM
Why did you have to precise 'all these apply to men too'? Your comment was neutral but by adding that you put the stress on girls...
And your statement that people with tattooes and piercing only imitate Americans and Europeans with their copy cat mentality is a bit false. Who did Americans and Europeans imitate when tthey started getting tattooes and piercings?

Bahama Mama
November 7, 2006, 05:26 PM
And your statement that people with tattooes and piercing only imitate Americans and Europeans with their copy cat mentality is a bit false. Who did Americans and Europeans imitate when tthey started getting tattooes and piercings?

Its a common scapegoat to blame what are considered negative social trends in the Caribbean on American and to a lesser extent European influences. It is in part due to the direct media influence from these regions. But you make a point that the culture of body modification trails back further than Western civilizations. Indigenous tribes in Africa, Asia, the South Pacific, South America, and even those in the Caribbean before the era of European exploration, had tattoes and body piercings. Its a pretty old practice that is now becoming more mainstream in socially conservative societies.

silentburn
November 7, 2006, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Gwadinka
Why did you have to precise 'all these apply to men too'? Your comment was neutral but by adding that you put the stress on girls...


Damn, I should have left out the 'all these apply to men too statement', I thought that statement would balance it out but now it seems I was wrong. Well I don't give the physical appearance of men as much attention as the physical appearance of women so I guess that's why I seem to put stress on the girls.


And your statement that people with tattooes and piercing only imitate Americans and Europeans with their copy cat mentality is a bit false. Who did Americans and Europeans imitate when tthey started getting tattooes and piercings?

The motivations for Americans doing it is different than the motivations of eastern/tribal civilizations. I doubt Americans have to deal with any rite of passage or anything like that. People are piercing their privates for crying out loud all for the sake of style and fashion.

Yes this has all happened in the past but because America got it from some other civilization does not justify it.

Piercings and Tattoos are simply for the most part a fashion statement in western society. Oh for some its also a pleasure thing. :eusa_whis

pogi_2nr
November 13, 2006, 01:06 PM
I like tattoos and piercings on my ladies :eusa_droo

I dont particularly fancy the piercing of the face. Ears, tongue, and other private
areas are cool but not the face. :eusa_snoo

my friends always tease me about my selection of ladies but ghetto girls need lovin too.

nuhsenutten
November 13, 2006, 01:29 PM
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The motivations for Americans doing it is different than the motivations of eastern/tribal civilizations. I doubt Americans have to deal with any rite of passage or anything like that. People are piercing their privates for crying out loud all for the sake of style and fashion.

Yes this has all happened in the past but because America got it from some other civilization does not justify it.



actually for most who get tatoos it is a right of passage for entry into gangs and crews ....tatoos are also used to tell rank of each member of a crew.
its just a new form of the whole right of passage thing.....