Vegetarian cooking

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Anybody into vegetarian food?
What are your favourite vegetarian recipes?

[Drew]

not into it at all. the only recipe i ever did was for creative cooking. i made it and didn't even taste it.

[AngelsKiss]

Anybody into vegetarian food?
What are your favourite vegetarian recipes?
I like Vegan food but no real favourites. There is a vegan restaurant (call Lynns I think), its on the same premises as that medical place on Half Way Tree Road. That's where I use to go most fo the times when I had Vegan food (which was often). I don't know if it's still there.

[Pondadat]

I LOVE MEAT!!!!!!! :icon_mrgr

[BMGrip]

I LOVE MEAT!!!!!!! :icon_mrgr


You on with that I luv meat and give me the real stuff dont substitute nothing. :icon_excl

[Cocoa]

I have a few, can't remember off my head but I will post later.
Here's one that I can remember...

It's steamed....callaloo, cabbage, carrots stripped and strips of grilled fish mixed together in a salad looking bowl with soft crust wheat corn tortilla on the side. Served with carrot juice.

[BlackCryptoKnight]

I have a few, can't remember off my head but I will post later.
Here's one that I can remember...

It's steamed....callaloo, cabbage, carrots stripped and strips of grilled fish mixed together in a salad looking bowl with soft crust wheat corn tortilla on the side. Served with carrot juice.

We'd have to substitue the fish if it's to be vegetarian ;)

[Greatis]

hmmm BCK there are two types of vegetarians. Those that eat fish and those that don't. I don't remember the scientific names given to the subgroups right now.

I am a vegetarian that eats chicken and Fish. :eusa_shif

[ramesh]

I am a vegetarian that eats chicken and Fish. :eusa_shif Heh Heh! You sure there's such a thing? ;)

[Greatis]

Heh Heh! You sure there's such a thing? ;)

of course I am living proof of it. :icon_lol:

[ramesh]

Well that's no proof! ;)

I eat everything except for two days of the week, Monday and Thursday. Those days I eat no meat. By meat I include every animal, fish, chicken or cow. I will eat milk products on those days, though. It is a self-imposed ritual, not a religious, family or other ideal matter.

[Cocoa]

Yes there are different types of vegetarians......
1. Semi-Vegetarians
Semi-vegetarians eat no red or white meat (beef, pork, venison, etc). The only animals that semi-vegetarians eat are fowl and fish. (Purists would say that semi-vegetarians are not vegetarians at all, but I have included them in order to show the complete hierarchy.)

2. Ovo-Lacto Vegetarians
The most common type, ovo-lacto vegetarians do not eat any animals, but do eat eggs and dairy products.
Subcategories:
* Ovo vegetarians (eat eggs but not dairy)
* Lacto vegetarians (eat dairy but not eggs)

3. Vegans
Vegans eat no animal products - no eggs, no dairy, no honey, etc.

4. Raw/Living Foodists
Raw or Living Foodists eat only raw food, because enzymes are destroyed by normal cooking processes.

5. Fruitarians
Fruitarians eat only fruit, fruit-like vegetables (e.g., tomatoes, cucumbers), and sometimes seeds and nuts.

http://veggietable.allinfo-about.com/articles/whatisavegetarian.html

[philben]

That's interesting JCB on the types of vegetarians...
I have an interesting recipe that I love very much..
It is for stewed peas, vege-stew peas. Instead of the meat put vegetables. I usually use the mixed vegetables and a must is the coconut milk. The last time I did it over a week ago I used the tin red peas in coconut milk and a tin of mixed veges. Season to taste. It was wonderful. Has anyone ever tried it?

[Greatis]

Hey Ramesh I told you I was a vegetarian

[Cocoa]

That's interesting JCB on the types of vegetarians...
I have an interesting recipe that I love very much..
It is for stewed peas, vege-stew peas. Instead of the meat put vegetables. I usually use the mixed vegetables and a must is the coconut milk. The last time I did it over a week ago I used the tin red peas in coconut milk and a tin of mixed veges. Season to taste. It was wonderful. Has anyone ever tried it?Yes I have done this before..... and use coconut cream instead. Very delicious.

[BMGrip]

I think being a vegetarian is a real serious thing and pretending to be one is

just faking. Either you are or your not. These people take this very seriously

I know of someone who disagree totally about a person eating meat being a

vegetarian. she doesnt eat meat at all and i think she eats no diary products.

To me its just how serious you are about something like that.
If your not your not. If you eat meat to me your not i think that' why they call it vege-tarian. :eusa_doh:

[Cocoa]

In general, a vegetarian is someone whose diet does not include certain animal products. There are five main types of vegetarians: (listed above)
From my valueable source.... I hav eno stopped eating beef, pork, and so on again...just chicken and fish as my only meat. I did this for years and found it very rewarded...only thing I lack is iron.

[Cocoa]

Vegetarian Food Pyramid

Level 1
OILS:
* flax
* olive
* canola
* walnut

Level 2
NUTS, SEEDS
* sunflower seeds
* almonds
* tahini

Level 3
MILK PRODUCTS
* milk
* cheese
* yogurt
(dairy + non-dairy)

PROTEIN FOODS*
* beans
* legumes
* eggs
* tofu
* tempeh

Level 4
LEAFY GREENS
* lettuce
* spinach
* chard
* kale

FRUITS
* fruit juice
* fresh fruit
* dried fruit

OTHER VEGETABLES
* carrots
* broccoli
* squash
* potatoes...

Level 5
WHOLE GRAINS
bread, cereal, oatmeal, pasta, rice, crackers

http://veggietable.allinfo-about.com/articles/veggiepyramid.html

[Nastro]

I hate tofu.

[Yo-Yo]

Yo Nas I'm wid you on that. The only way I'm Eating thatis, if it come wid a Three piece chicken and a biscuit. Nah amean. I aint mad at ya Jacocoabutter.

[Nastro]

Yo Nas I'm wid you on that. The only way I'm Eating thatis, if it come wid a Three piece chicken and a biscuit. Nah amean. I aint mad at ya Jacocoabutter.

* Dead Wid Laughing * This one wake me up dude....hhahahaha.

I agree with you.

[Cocoa]

Yo Nas I'm wid you on that. The only way I'm Eating thatis, if it come wid a Three piece chicken and a biscuit. Nah amean. I aint mad at ya Jacocoabutter.I ain't mad at you yo. :icon_lol:

[chany86]

i like vegan tarts (flaky pastry filled with spicy tofu and tomatos and that fake cheese (made from soy!!) Soya is taking over my household now. in any case, i like em cuz they taste like they stuffed with meat.

I love Tofu! the rite ppl haffi cook it though. trus mi, dash on sum chicken seasonin and it taste just like chicken!! lol

[Leina]

i like vegan tarts (flaky pastry filled with spicy tofu and tomatos and that fake cheese (made from soy!!) Soya is taking over my household now. in any case, i like em cuz they taste like they stuffed with meat.

I love Tofu! the rite ppl haffi cook it though. trus mi, dash on sum chicken seasonin and it taste just like chicken!! lol

mi nuh eat nutting weh mark tofu. Mi fraid a vegetarian food. I'll stick to my vegetables

[Manu]

Vege chunks and Glouton....pretty good stuff!!!

[virus_ncu]

I like the chunks.
but veggie Food too Expensive.

[chany86]

mi nuh eat nutting weh mark tofu. Mi fraid a vegetarian food. I'll stick to my vegetables

why u afraid of vegetarian food?? Plain veges? i gotta use my dressing on those (low fat ofcourse!)

yes manu glouton is nice, had it once in High school. true, vegan food is expensive but the weirdest thing is that it tastes good to me and it digests easily

[Leina]

why u afraid of vegetarian food?? Plain veges? i gotta use my dressing on those (low fat ofcourse!)

yes manu glouton is nice, had it once in High school. true, vegan food is expensive but the weirdest thing is that it tastes good to me and it digests easily

well the only thing i like is veggie mince when you use it and make chilli

[dyllon]

Chunks a 1 a di baddest ting, to me, it taste just like meat.

[nuhsenutten]

go and eat some fish
beef pork goat sheep ........the works and stop the vegetable foolishness

unnu fi just choke ...


j/k

[BlackCryptoKnight]

go and eat some fish
beef pork goat sheep ........the works and stop the vegetable foolishness

unnu fi just choke ...


j/k

Bad mind. :eusa_naug

Tofu not bad, it all depends on how you prepare it.:icon_mrgr

[rodalembs]

You know there are some interesting meals created on a vegan diet. I know of a man who is a vegan and a "raw foodist" i.e. none of his food is cooked.

I had at his house...

Rolled Oats with Real Coconut Milk and Rasins

Curried Raw Riped Plantins

And a Savoury pie which the crust was "baked" by the sun and he added avocado, tomatoes and natural herbs and spices with sea salt to taste.

They were really nice and filling actually.

I also have had what they called Mock Mash potatoes. The prepare Cauliflower , coconut milk and skimed ricotta cheese in a food processor. Some how it ends up with the consistency of mash potatoes. With salt and black pepper added it tasted quite good.

On of the thing is that when you learn that beef takes 44 days to leave the body and that roting meat in the intestins is a source of cancer , one has to think twice.

[nester-san]

On of the thing is that when you learn that beef takes 44 days to leave the body and that roting meat in the intestins is a source of cancer , one has to think twice.

BLAH DE BLAH BLAH BLAH

Cows eat vegatables, and they need 4 stomaches and they need to chew the food twice.

Save time on chewing, save on stomach processing,save on dental costs EAT BEEF!! :D

Anything that have bone!! :icon_twis

BTW for those who "only eat fish", or "only eat chicken" UNNU A NO VEGETARIAN! hop offa de man dem bandwaggon! :eusa_naug

Go make up your own group terminology (LAZY LIKE!!) :eusa_snoo

The way unnu wanna be's love meat unda de quiet, unnu all haffi season unnu Tofu and Soy fi taste like meat.

Do it Natural, same way it process, pull the pack and eat it so, or just boil it or bake it!
See how quick unnu run go order a 3 Piece KFC, or a BK Double whopper!

LATA

Nester-san

[BlackCryptoKnight]

BLAH DE BLAH BLAH BLAH

Cows eat vegatables, and they need 4 stomaches and they need to chew the food twice.

Save time on chewing, save on stomach processing,save on dental costs EAT BEEF!! :D

Anything that have bone!! :icon_twis

BTW for those who "only eat fish", or "only eat chicken" UNNU A NO VEGETARIAN! hop offa de man dem bandwaggon! :eusa_naug

Go make up your own group terminology (LAZY LIKE!!) :eusa_snoo

The way unnu wanna be's love meat unda de quiet, unnu all haffi season unnu Tofu and Soy fi taste like meat.

Do it Natural, same way it process, pull the pack and eat it so, or just boil it or bake it!
See how quick unnu run go order a 3 Piece KFC, or a BK Double whopper!

LATA

Nester-san

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Ain't nothin' wrong with a vegetarian diet. Stop hating.

[nester-san]

Never said there was, but CHICKEN AND FISH ARE NOT VEGETABLES!

And why is the need to flavour Tofu and other rabbit food like meat?

When I go vegetarian, no meat, or meat substitution. Pure Ital and Natural.

But Meat is KING!!

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Never said there was, but CHICKEN AND FISH ARE NOT VEGETABLES!

And why is the need to flavour Tofu and other rabbit food like meat?

When I go vegetarian, no meat, or meat substitution. Pure Ital and Natural.

But Meat is KING!!

Dude, not everyone flavours their vegatarian food to taste like meat. Besides, it's not the meat taste that is a problem, its the other attributes such as the cholesterol and carcinogens. Many people find meat to taste good. If they can be vegetarian and have those health benefits, while having the meat-like taste, then there's nothing wrong with that. They'd still be healthier than a meat eater.

[rodalembs]

Dude, not everyone flavours their vegatarian food to taste like meat. Besides, it's not the meat taste that is a problem, its the other attributes such as the cholesterol and carcinogens. Many people find meat to taste good. If they can be vegetarian and have those health benefits, while having the meat-like taste, then there's nothing wrong with that. They'd still be healthier than a meat eater.

True thing... I wish i could have the consitency that some ppl i know have in this area. Vegtables, and Fresh Fruits and no processed meats but lean cuts

[nester-san]

On of the thing is that when you learn that beef takes 44 days to leave the body and that roting meat in the intestins is a source of cancer , one has to think twice.

This argument is based on squeamishness and terror-tactics. That some veggies were converted to their creed by this argument is evidence that scare stories can work, even if they are rubbish. The notion that meat stays in the gut for much longer than other things I find amusing. The intestines are long narrow tubes, and food is worked along these tubes by the automatic contraction of bands of muscle around them. How might some vegetable matter over-take some meat? “Beep-beep! Pull over! Fast-track non-meat produce coming through!” Similar myths exist for meat’s sitting in the stomach for an age, in some cloistered waiting room, apart from less sinister food forms. No it doesn’t. Take a look at an anatomy text book and look at the shape of the stomach, then tell me where the separated-out meat stays for its alleged extended period. Also, offer me a mechanism by which the meat might be separated out in the first place. Last, offer me a reason why on Earth the body would have evolved to separate out meat and then harm itself by letting it go toxic.

That meat rots in the gut is true. However, it is also true that all food rots in the gut. The gut is filled with bacteria all the time. The bacteria break the food down. This is how digestion works. When your food exits your body in the form of faeces, a quarter to a half of its weight is made up of bacteria. If you hate the thought of bacteria in your body so much that you wish to avoid any breeding in there at all, then I’m afraid that even if you ate no food at all, you would not achieve your aim. There are more parasites living in and on your body than there are cells of your own body.

[nester-san]

"I became a vegetarian because I care about what I put into my body. I don’t want to put chemicals in there, nor anything dead. Plants are natural, so they can’t be harmful."



Everything about this argument is so fantastically wrong that it is difficult to know where to start. How caring about what one eats should lead to vegetarianism of all things is a little baffling. The notion strongly implies that meat eaters do not care what they eat. There is clearly no logic in this.

The use of the word “chemicals” makes it clear that the user of this argument has no idea what the word chemicals means. All matter is 100% composed of chemicals. Your body is made up entirely of chemicals, as are all kinds of food. Do you ever drink water? That’s a chemical. I can give you the formula if you’d like: H2O - two hydrogen atoms in a molecule with one atom of oxygen. Personally, I mix mine up in a lab myself, because I don’t trust anyone else to do it properly.

Some people seem to believe that if a substance is made, refined, or used by man, then it is a chemical. Weed killer is by this definition a “chemical”, although sometimes this is exempt from “chemical” status if it is derived from a “natural” source. That people shopping in modern supermarkets might somehow avoid this type of “chemical” by avoiding meat is bordering on the insane. Look at the list of ingredients for almost any packet or tin of food and you’ll find all manner of colourings and preservatives. Have you noticed the amazing way that the piles of fruit today are near blemish-free, and all the apples in the apple tray are the same size and colour, and beautifully shiny and round? Now guess how many modern refined chemicals it takes to achieve that. Ever noticed that a French Golden Delicious (a) tastes of nothing and (b) lasts for months in your fruit bowl? Do you ever read the list of ingredients for a pack of fresh meat? There isn’t one. True, in America, farmers do use growth hormones in raising meat, but this practice is banned in Britain, and there is so far as I know no evidence that the vaccinations that animals get have any effect on humans who eat them. I don’t see why they might have. Animals develop immunities to thousands of pathogens they encounter in their lives. Vaccinations just introduce them to a couple more, so why should their immuno-response to these pathogens be any worse for the meat eater?

[nester-san]

"Plants are natural and therefore harmless", is so very definitely wrong that it should be a compulsory part of school education that children are made to see the tremendous error of this nonsense. The plain fact is that all plants are poisonous. They are poisonous in that they contain toxins. However, people can eat plants and apparently suffer no ill effects. The reason for this is that animals such as humans have evolved an ability to tolerate those toxins. We can eat some cabbage and live, because our bodies go to some effort to counter the toxins in a cabbage. The reason that plants generate poisons is simple: they don’t want to be eaten. The leaves of a cabbage are its solar panels and its body. If a grazing animal comes along and eats those leaves, then there is no more cabbage. Consequently, cabbages have evolved to produce poisons, so that fewer things can eat them. Some animals will evolve the ability to eat cabbages anyway, however. Evolution is a constant arms race between species. Some animals, like cats, are carnivores, and these have very little tolerance for plant toxins. Feed a “healthy salad” to your cat and very soon you will have a very ill cat. Try giving it celery if you want it to die quickly. Other animals like deer can eat all sorts of leaves which would kill a human very dead. Between cats and deer on this spectrum are humans. Our bodies can tolerate the toxins in some plants, but not most plants.

[nester-san]

So, if you want to avoid eating toxins, then eat meat. Animals keep their poisonous parts very definitely separate from their non-poisonous parts, and the only poisonous mammal is the male duck-billed platypus, so if you stick to mammals and as long as you avoid eating the poison sacks on the feet of the male duck billed platypus, then you can be 100% certain that your diet is toxin-free. If by contrast you want to guarantee that everything you eat is poisonous, eat plants. If you cook some plants, you can kill most of the toxins. Potatoes are a good example. Fruit is different, because fruits evolved to be eaten, but not necessarily eaten by humans. Certain fruits when perfectly ripe are seldom very toxic. If you eat unripe fruit, then you will get ill. If you eat over-ripe fruit, then you might get ill. If you eat the wrong fruits then you might die. Fruits are of course only naturally available at short periods of the year, which explains that there are no examples of healthy human frugivores. Humans could not have evolved to eat an all-fruit diet, because in the wild past, all those that tried, died.

[nester-san]

AND FINALLY:

If God didn't want us to eat animals why did he make them out of meat?


----STOLEN VERBATIM AND WITH GLEE FROM : http://www.hyperactive-stage.co.uk/blog/comments.asp?ref=196

[BlackCryptoKnight]

Nester, you need to read up on what it takes to digest meat vs. vegetables. It's a medical fact that meat is more difficult to digest (not just move through a long narrow tube) than vegetable matter. Get a clue.

[nester-san]

Nester, you need to read up on what it takes to digest meat vs. vegetables. It's a medical fact that meat is more difficult to digest (not just move through a long narrow tube) than vegetable matter. Get a clue.

Why do cows chew cud then ?
Why 4 BELLY ?

Digestibility refers to the proportion of a food that becomes available to the body as absorbed nutrients. Beef is highly digestible- in fact, 97% of beef is digestible, in comparison to 89% of flour and 65% of most vegetables. However, many people equate digestibility with the length of time a food remains in the stomach. Beef and other protein foods remain in the stomach longer than fruits and vegetables- and consequently provide a feeling of fullness for a longer period of time.

[easyskanka]

According to the bible we're all gonna revert back to being vegetarians. Even the Lion is going to have a diet the same as that of the bull. And that ain't bull. It's the way God first planned and designed it...and one day it will come to pass. No living soul will eat another. For the time being tuck into that succulent steak there... and pass the pepper sauce. :hungry:

[nester-san]

According to the bible we're all gonna revert back to being vegetarians. Even the Lion is going to have a diet the same as that of the bull. And that ain't bull. It's the way God first planned and designed it...and one day it will come to pass. No living soul will eat another. For the time being tuck into that succulent steak there... and pass the pepper sauce. :hungry:

So the Devil gave the Lion canine teeth ?
and he made it so that if I feed my cat vegatables it will kill it ?
That Damn Bastard...!

[easyskanka]

So the Devil gave the Lion canine teeth ?
and he made it so that if I feed my cat vegatables it will kill it ?
That Damn Bastard...!

God can do anything mi fren...hence the title... ALMIGHTY. I never said anything about satan giving us or animals canine teeth...however belief in the true God requires faith, something we all struggle with at various times, some naturally more than others.

[Bahama Mama]

Nester, you need to read up on what it takes to digest meat vs. vegetables. It's a medical fact that meat is more difficult to digest (not just move through a long narrow tube) than vegetable matter. Get a clue.


Actually Cellulose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose) which is a component carbohydrate of many leafy green vegetables like brocoli, lettuce, and cabbage, is not digestable i.e. broken down and absorbed in the human gut. Humans dont possess the proper enzymes to carry out this process. So a large proportion of the vegetables we eat pass through our system untouched and settle in the colon as a bulk for faeces.

[easyskanka]

I remember the story of Daniel, Hananiah, mishael and Azariah after they had been exiled off to Babylon. They refused to eat the best of the Babylonian foods, preferring to eat only vegetables and salads and to only drink water. Their complexion ended up appearing far more healthy than others on the prescribed diet which included meat. This was over a set period of time, and they of course had God in their corner.

Lots of fruit and vegetable is always recommended as part of a balanced diet by nutricionists, so presumably their is great gain to be had, even if it mainly for the purpose of roughage.

[nester-san]

No one is saying eat only meat!
I am just saying tuck into some fish and pork and chicken, it's not only good, it's good for ya!

[AngelsKiss]

No one is saying eat only meat!
I am just saying tuck into some fish and pork and chicken, it's not only good, it's good for ya!

LOL...I agree with ya Nester...especially di pork. Nothing sweeter than pork, right?;)

BTW...even Christ served fish to the people :)


Nothing wrong with eating meat. Life is about balance. No where in the bible did it suggest that you shouldn't eat meat. Yes it talked about not eating certain types of meat and how to prepare it which in and of itself is another story :)

[rodalembs]

No one is saying eat only meat!
I am just saying tuck into some fish and pork and chicken, it's not only good, it's good for ya!

Fully understood Nes.. but yu see we in the West eat wayyyy too much starch... we nuh balance the plate. We eat 1/2 of Chicken 3 servings of rice and two teaspoon of veggies. and the think is we eat that for lunch and do the same for dinner.

As fi the pork ...We think in JA we have a good given gift if nyam all di prok in sight.

I think the chinese have a balanced diet they are creative in how the mix and use meat and vegetables. Aye.. yu know we in jamaica love rice bad. I see ppl go to chinese restaurant and order Lo Mien (meat, veggies and noodles) and dem still ADD rice to that. Now the Lo Mein is a meal in itself.

[AngelsKiss]

I think the chinese have a balanced diet they are creative in how the mix and use meat and vegetables. Aye.. yu know we in jamaica love rice bad. I see ppl go to chinese restaurant and order Lo Mien (meat, veggies and noodles) and dem still ADD rice to that. Now the Lo Mein is a meal in itself.

The Chinese have a balance diet because they can't afford meat for the most part. Oh and no one loves rice more than the Chinese:)

[rodalembs]

Oh and no one loves rice more than the Chinese:) Might be true but how we eat rice?. Fry Chicken and Rice and peas! .!!!

[nester-san]

The Chinese have a balance diet because they can't afford meat for the most part. Oh and no one loves rice more than the Chinese:)

Cept Japanese (rice was used as payment instead of cash), plus it is illegal to export japanese rice. LOL