whats the difference between christianity and jehovah's witnesses??

[Manu]

So spirit and soul are two separate and apart things/entities?

[gucci man]

I found the following at http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/res...dge/eph215.htm

THE TRUTH ABOUT EPH. 2:15

Millions have been deceived by tunnel vision! Ministers and laymen alike have focused in on this Scripture and fell into a trap which Peter warned about. They have twisted it to say what it does NOT say and are bringing destruction upon themselves unknowingly. Let us notice Peter's fair warning before we delve into this Scripture in its context.


PETER'S WARNING


Peter spoke of our beloved brother, Paul …

"As in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable twist, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction." (II Pet. 3:16).


This warning was put here by the Holy Spirit to protect us. And since it speaks of those 'unlearned', it is obvious they were unlearned in Scripture. Therefore let us LEARN some crystal clear basic, foundational Scriptures BEFORE we try to understand difficult and 'hard to be understood' Scriptures.


LAW NOT DESTROYED


Can we believe Jesus Christ Himself? What was His own testimony? When Jesus spoke of 'law' He meant all of God's Word. He knew "Thy Word is Truth" (Psa. 119:142). All of God's Word is the "law". He understood it; yet why don't millions who profess to know Him? It is evident when He mentions Scriptures in the Psalms as "the law". Read it for yourself in John 10:34…

"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" (Psa. 82:6).


That is a quotation out of Psalms. Jesus didn't relegate the 'law' only to the Ten Commandments or only the first five books of the Bible and writings of Moses. The testimony of Jesus Christ is perfectly clear. Let's open our eyes and ears and understand it. Mat. 5:17-18…

"THINK NOT that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am NOT come to destroy, but to fulfill. "For verily I say to you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall IN NO WISE pass from the law, till all be fulfilled (in force, being performed)."


Think! The 'law' included all Scripture and NONE of it is done away! Jesus said in Mat. 4:4… "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of God."

It is imperative you fill your mind with the testimony of Jesus Christ. No one before or after Him can change that testimony.....

[Manu]

Thank You Gucci.... so all this hocus pocus bout Mosaic law being associated with the ten commandments is rubbish. Who wrote them? Moses or God? The commandments are applicable today and are never changing.

[CyberCat]

Thank You Gucci.... so all this hocus pocus bout Mosaic law being associated with the ten commandments is rubbish. Who wrote them? Moses or God? The commandments are applicable today and are never changing.

...........well finally!

[SOLDIER OF JEHOVAH]

So spirit and soul are two separate and apart things/entities?

Yes Manu, they are two different things.

When God created man, Genesis tell us that God breathed the breath of life into the nostrils of Adam and he became a living soul. It doesn't say that he was given a soul, it says that he became a soul.

I remember about 40-45 years ago, I read the book, Moby Dick. I seem to recall that after the whale had destroyed the ship, the book mentioned that all souls were lost. This means that all lives were lost. When reading the Bible, anyplace that you read the word "soul(s)", you can replace it with life or lives.

The spirit is a part of the Holy Spirit that God has put upon you to cause your body to come to life. It comes upon you at conception. You may be just a bunch of cells in the womb, but even cells respirate, take in nutrients, excrete, etc. And, That same Spirit is also found in dogs, cats, horses, bats, mice, insects... all living creatures. The Bible also tells us that God considers ALL life to be precious.

When you die, your life ( or soul) is no more. We are all sinners thanks to Adam and Eve. The Bible tells us that, 'the soul that is sinning, it itself will die.' So when your sinning life has ended, your sinning soul has also ended. And the Bible says that, 'the dead are consious of nothing at all.' There is no part of you that survives death. There is no Casper-the-Ghost kind of spirit with your own personality that leaves your body and floats away to heaven or somehow remains trapped here on earth. That's all Hollywood and wrongful Bible teaching and interpretation.

When you die, your body returns to the ground from which it came... we are just a collection of a certain proportion of chemicals which can be found in the earth. Ashes to ashes... dust to dust. Because your life is no more, the same is true of your soul - -it is also no more. Your soul is your life. The Spirit, (God's active force), which caused your body to become alive in the first place, goes back to God in a figurative sense in that He has use of it once again. It is all a part of the Holy Spirit.

Now that you know God's name and what really happens when we die, I can say that you know more than most pastors, ministers, preachers, etc.

[SOLDIER OF JEHOVAH]

Manu,
Have you read the Scriptural references that I pointed out in my "hocus pocus" as you call it? If you did, then you would see for yourself, firsthand, that I was telling you the truth. It is not rubbish. Lookup those Bible references for yourself. The Mosaic Law is no longer in effect.

I get my truth from God's Word, the Bible. Do not rely on what Gucci Man has been telling you because he relies on the word of man as found in Newswatch Magazine and upon other sources. If you want to know the truth, you must go to the source of truth, the Bible. Read those Bible references that I included in my posts. Forget about anything that I may have posted and do the research for yourself. Decide for yourself who has the truth, God's Word the Bible or Gucci Man's rhetoric from a deep well of foul and polluted sources. It's easy for him to cut and paste someone else's words and claim, "Yea, that's what I'm trying to say." or "See, it must be true because this magazine (website) said it is true." It's also easy for him to tell us to listen to the testimony of God's son, Jesus, while at the same time he ignores that very testimony! I am referring to the bolded references below. When it comes to Bible knowledge, he relies mostly on cut and paste whereas I speak from my knowledge of the Bible but only after researching it thoroughly and taking great pains to ensure that I get the correct Scriptures referenced.

Go back and read my post dated January 18, 2009 06:37 AM. Read the Bible references, especially the ones in bold.
Ro 5:13; 6:14; 10:4; 13:8,9; Ga 2:21; 3:13; 5:14 Eph 2:15; Col 2:13,14; Heb 8:6,13

It may do you well to go back and read all of my posts in this thread. It's only about a dozen. If you can understand what I have been saying, then perhaps you will soon stop reasoning like a babe and prepare yourself for the real meat of the issue.

[gucci man]

Manu,
Gucci Man's rhetoric from a deep well of foul and polluted sources. It's easy for him to cut and paste someone else's words and claim, "Yea, that's what I'm trying to say."

Duh, that's why i did it!!!

Did you read the verses mentioned in my quote?
That is what i you should look on instead of calling foul.

Just read this:

THINK NOT that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am NOT come to destroy, but to fulfill. "For verily I say to you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall IN NO WISE pass from the law, till all be fulfilled (in force, being performed)

SOJ, What was jesus's role on earth? Answer that to yourself and you will realize that he did not came to change law. What would change the application of the law?

If you have a FATHER that says, "Son, from now on i want you to clean the garden on fridays" are you gonna say: "OK father, instead i'm going to wash your car on sunday?"

Two different context, two different things being honored or in this case, cleaned.

[CyberCat]

Gucci,

nah waste you time nah man.

[Manu]

Bwoy SOJ... to each his own.

[SOLDIER OF JEHOVAH]

Read Romans Chapter 6, the whole chapter. Then read all of Chapter 7 and 8:1-7. When you have finished, read 6:14,15 and 7:6 again.
Galatians 5:14 tells us that the Law stands fulfilled in just one of the two commandments given by Jesus in the New Testament, namely, "You must love your neighbor as yourself." So the Law is fulfilled and Ephesians 2:15 means exactly what it says.
Jesus died for our sins, but that's what the Law was for, to punish us for our sins. So, if the Law is still in effect, then Jesus died for nothing because our sins are punished through the Law and not forgiven us by the sacrafice of Jesus' death.
But, since the Law has been fulfilled, Jesus' death has full meaning for all persons and it is 'by means of his flesh, through his death, that he abolished the Law of commandments consisting in decrees.' (Paraphrased Eph 2:15)