What is the definition Of A 'True' Christian?

[bernie]

@ A_A
hehe...wat so insignificant bout my question? it have to do with christianity...right?
mek yuh nuh talk why yuh stop sing di song? is awrite...ICU done show yuh up!

[Foxy Kay]

Is there such a thing as a 'True' christian and does that person exist. I think we can be a Christian but not a 'True Christian'.... not everyone follow the Bible's Ten Comandment, if they say they do, I think they are lying. We aren't perfect....

(just my opinion)

[Xenocrates]

Is there such a thing as a 'True' christian and does that person exist. I think we can be a Christian but not a 'True Christian'.... not everyone follow the Bible's Ten Comandment, if they say they do, I think they are lying. We aren't perfect....

- That's irrelevant. God judges based on the nature of your heart, not the nature of your doing. The ability to keep the ten commandments is moot. The ability to care for your brother is the definition of Christianity. It's about mutual servitude to your fellow man. Everything else is a technical detail that stems from that basic premise. Effectively, there are two commandments:

1. Love your God
2. Love your brother

Follow those two principles and you cover the 10 commandments and everything else in between. People who hark on technical details are trying to makeup for their own shortcomings by trying to make others seem like they lack because of insignificant technicalities. They're like lawyers, affixing themselves to imagined caveats or technical loopholes which are completely overshadowed by one of the two laws mentioned above.

To simplify this, observe the following:

If you love God:

• 1st & 2nd Commandments - You won't worship anyone else but Him and you won't put anyone or anything else at the center of your life but Him.
  
  
• 3rd Commandment - You won't abuse the use of His name.
  
  
• 4th Commandment - You will observe the Sabbath requirement.
  
  
• 5th Commandment - You will respect your parents, and anyone else set above you in an authoritative role (meaning, everyone from your supervisor, your boss to the laws of the land and the people who uphold it) - because the Bible teaches us that all people set over us were established by God himself. Therefore, If you disrespect someone who has authority over you, you indirectly disrespect God.

If you love your brother:

• 6th Commandment - You won't kill anyone.
  
  
• 7th Commandment - You won't cheat on your lover.
  
  
• 8th Commandment - You won't steal from anyone.
  
  
• 9th Commandment - You won't lie against anyone or to anyone.
  
  
• 10th Commandment- You won't be lascivious (i.e. envious or "bad mind") against anyone.

Thus, if you remember to:

1. Love your God
2. Love your brother

...you automatically cover the 10 commandments, and any other intricacies or "gray areas" that may exist in between. The Old Testament exists to teach us how relate to God. The New Testament exists to teach us how we relate to each other - through mutual servitude. Therefore;

A true Christian is anyone who observes and follows these two very simple principles.

That's it.

[Foxy Kay]

Thanx Xeno , don't get me wrong -- I wasn't trying be un-Godly or ignorant. It is just, hard to picture or find someone here on earth who depicts a true christian...

From what is going on now in Churches, I have been re-thinking. Well, maybe that is why they have baptizmals.

[Xenocrates]

don't get me wrong -- I wasn't trying be un-Godly or ignorant.

- No, no - I didn't think that of you at all.

It is just, hard to picture or find someone here on earth who depicts a true christian...

- That's the whole point of what I said. You must understand my dear, that:

Being a true christian ≠ Being a perfect, sinless person.

Being a true christian = Having an active conscience about sin

The only difference between Christians and sinners is that Christians have a conscience about any sin they commit and will take corrective action about it. Sinners however, do not have any such conscience and will not take any kind of corrective action about their wrongdoing. Aside from that, Christians and sinners are the same kind of animal, with all of the same wants needs, desires, etc.

So let us not be misguided. Being a Christian doesn't mean that you've attained some super-human capabilities that makes it impossible for you to sin. That's far from accurate.

From what is going on now in Churches, I have been re-thinking.

- The people who perpetrate these crimes in churches are not true Christians. Why? Because they have no conscience of the evil that they've done - at least not until the law caught up with them. Even then, their conscience was borne out of fear and shame, not out of genuine concern for their evil deeds. If they were true Christians, they would have given themselves up to the authorities (or exposed those among them who perpetrated these crimes). Furthermore, they would not try to cover up the crimes of those among them which have committed sin which breached the laws of the land. The brave folks who spoke out against their wrong-doing church members are the real christians in the lot.

Well, maybe that is why they have baptizmals.

- Baptism doesn't make one impervious to sin. It is merely a ritual. However, ritual or no, Baptism isn't required for being a true christian, nor is it required for inheriting eternal life. You could be baptised 3 times in your lifetime and still commit genocide. Hitler did.

Thus, I repeat for emphasis: Being a true christian requires a change in your conscience. Nothing more. Once you have a change in your conscience, everything else will follow naturally.

[crushed@caribyard.com]

Definition Of True A = Jesus + God

[ramesh]

Definition Of True A = Jesus + God

What's a "True A"? Never heard of it.

[ramesh]

Effectively, there are two commandments:

1. Love your God
2. Love your brother

Follow those two principles and you cover the 10 commandments and everything else in between.

Who is your brother?

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[crushed@caribyard.com]

Oh sorry! I left off christian but was that not obvious? What is thread about jeez talk about being difficult.

[ramesh]

Oh sorry! I left off christian but was that not obvious? What is thread about jeez talk about being difficult.

Ok, I understand now. What you meant was that only Jesus and God are true Christians.